Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[kimmiepcft]

Kim, you rocked it! SO glad we went together. Would love to do it again. I agree, we will have to get out a little earlier. I felt pretty good today. Just a little sore in my quads if I tried to chase the dog. Now my gluts feel a little sore sitting here on my butt. Definitely feeling those hills! I need my beach route back! Curse you Sandy the hurricane!

If I have time this coming weekend, I am debating on trying for 18 . Unfortunately I'm gonna have to work some this weekend so I will be lucky if I can get a short run in. Otherwise 18 will be my birthday present to myself

My next long run is Dec 1, 17 miles and then 20 on Dec 22. Merry Christmas to me, lol. I will be at my Mom's that weekend, so I am going to have to consider doing my 20 on vacation I guess! Can't wait to run Disney with you, we are gonna have a blast!

 

[Momto2PrncChrmgs]

I just realized that the Galloway 1/2 plan has me doing 12.5 on 12/8, then 14 on 12/22. Is it silly that I don't want to do more than the 12.5 since I want my first "13.1" to be at Disney? Is it going to make that much of a difference for me to do 12.5 again on 12/22 and not 14?

 

[joan4mickey]

I just realized that the Galloway 1/2 plan has me doing 12.5 on 12/8, then 14 on 12/22. Is it silly that I don't want to do more than the 12.5 since I want my first "13.1" to be at Disney? Is it going to make that much of a difference for me to do 12.5 again on 12/22 and not 14?

You should be fine. I only went up to 10 for my first,second and third half.

AFM:
I have a 20 miler on 12/1 and 12/19. I have had to tweet some LR due to holiday travel. I did 18 this past weekend because of Thanksgiving travel, and my 20 miler on 12/19 would have been 12/22, but we will be skiing. Then I will do one more 12-14 around 1/1/13.

 

[cewait]

I just realized that the Galloway 1/2 plan has me doing 12.5 on 12/8, then 14 on 12/22. Is it silly that I don't want to do more than the 12.5 since I want my first "13.1" to be at Disney? Is it going to make that much of a difference for me to do 12.5 again on 12/22 and not 14?

Honestly, if you just subbed 10 into the equation for any run longer than 10 you will be more than ready.

Have fun and ENJOY your FIRST 13.1 at Disney

 

[Ariel484]

I just realized that the Galloway 1/2 plan has me doing 12.5 on 12/8, then 14 on 12/22. Is it silly that I don't want to do more than the 12.5 since I want my first "13.1" to be at Disney? Is it going to make that much of a difference for me to do 12.5 again on 12/22 and not 14?

My personal opinion - not silly at all to want your first 13.1 to be at the finish. If you can run 12.5, you can run the half.

I used the same Galloway plan you're using to train for the 2011 Princess Half (my first half). I did the 12.5-mile run (on the treadmill due to weather ) and knew when I was done that I could finish the race. I just felt ready. When I set out to do the 14-miler there was snow on the sidewalks, so I ran in the street. The sloped roads really killed my IT band and I ended up bailing and calling my husband to pick me up around mile 10.5. I think after that I took a few days off of running to let my knee recover and still finished the race with a smile on my face.

I could be wrong, but I think that the 14-miler is more of a mental thing, to give people confidence on race day that "you've done it before, you can do it again." Other plans top out at 12 (the one I use now does), and some even top out at 10...so I think you'll be fine if you want to shorten the 14-miler!

 

[Mickey'sfriend]

I know throughout this thread it has been discussed, but has anyone successfully completed a marathon with Hal Higdon's novice 1 program? It looks like if I switch from Galloway to Higdon, I may not be completely screwed. I'm pretty confident I could do 13 miles at this point. I think the hardest thing for me to get over is that you stop at 20. I would feel so unprepared!

If you read his book, he'll tell you a half a million people have successfully used his plan to cross the finish line of a marathon. I'm using the plan, with a few modifications for my schedule. It is better to approach the starting line slightly undertrained, than overtrained and injured. Trust the experts.

 

[Beast2Prince]

I wish you success in your first Half Marathon! I was where you were this January when I ran my first Half. It was an amazing experience! I am sure you will have a similar experience too!

As for your training plan, my only suggestions would be to:

1) build in a cut-back week every 2 weeks for your Long Run. The body does need time to rebuild muscles and recover. So two weeks of an increase, followed by a cut-back week, and then back to two weeks of increase offers that opportunity. For example, if you run 8 miles this Sunday and 9 miles next Sunday, then run 6 miles on the third Sunday. Then you can increase to 10 miles on the week after the cut-back and continue.
2) what is your pacing for your Long Runs? These should be run at a slow pace, not race pace. These are for building endurance and to train your body to more effectively learn how to burn fat for fuel rather than sugar. It is also your best time for developing your hydration and fueling strategies.
3) You might consider making one of your weeknight runs a speedwork session which will help you increase your speed.

Sounds like you are committed to preparing for this Half and I have no doubt you will be pleased with the results!

Certainly not too much. If you are running at 9:30 (pretty good pace), can you add in one or two more short runs during the week? Best performance comes off running 5 or so runs a week. You could keep with your plan and add in two more runs of 1/4 of your long run.

Taper is fine depending how many days you run in training. If you add days in training, add them to your taper too. Mine is usually 10 (week before race),rest, 6, 5, 4, rest, 3, race. If you keep with 3 days/week then 6.5, 3, 3, race (with rests in between) sounds about right.

Thanks for all the advice. My 8 mile run went well on Saturday and will now have my first ever 9 mile run this Saturday. I will see if I can't squeeze in another short run or two during the week.

 

[steph0808]

If you read his book, he'll tell you a half a million people have successfully used his plan to cross the finish line of a marathon. I'm using the plan, with a few modifications for my schedule. It is better to approach the starting line slightly undertrained, than overtrained and injured. Trust the experts.

I'm using his Novice 2 plan for Disney and it is my first marathon. So far I am feeling pretty well-trained. I am not an Olympian by any means - I just want to cross the finish line and walk around the parks afterwards for the next week!

 

[irishtwins1112]

I tried to pm you coach but after I did I couldn't find it in my pm sent box. I had a few more questions for you.



I posted this a few days ago.
Originally Posted by irishtwins1112
Sorry, but this is kind of long. I already posted that I did a half marathon this past weekend with a 16:20 pace. I know I can go faster but my aunt decided she wanted to walk the last 4.5 miles with me (which was nice for visiting…..but definitely slower than if I had just been by myself). There were also 4 or 5 big hills on the course and my aunt decided that we should call my grandparents on speaker phone on the way up the biggest hill. Anyway, with there only being 9 weeks until the marathon in January, I have been thinking/wigging about a lot of things concerning my pace.

1. I had my youngest son in April of 2012. I lost about 40 lbs(was 278 and am now about 240) by the end of July but since then but haven’t been able to lose anymore. I know that I could probably shave some off of my time by losing some weight. I know that low carb works for me……but I am torn between wanting to lose weight and the sluggishness that I know I will experience if I do low carb. I tried it a few weeks ago and lost a few pounds but I was so sluggish that I couldn’t exercise like I normally do and that is frustrating. I know I need to lose some weight but I wonder if I should just keep training for the marathon and forget weight loss until it is over. Thoughts?

2. This is my basic schedule(classes that I attend at the ymca and other workouts):
M-Trekking (hills, intervals on a treadmill) -30 minutes
Powerlift (strength training) -45 minutes
T-Spin (I do an endurance ride with enough tension that I work the whole time)-45 minutes
W-Zumba (fun…..but not the most strenuous workout) -45 minutes
Powerlift (strength training -45 minutes
TH-Spin (I do an endurance ride with enough tension that I work the whole time)-45 minutes
-Treadmill (30 minutes or 2 miles, run/walk to recovery with no specific interval)
F -Normally a rest day. Occasionally I do Zumba.
S –Long Run (I am doing the long runs from the John Bingham Walk/Run Program)
Sunday-REST

I wonder if I should add more walk/running to help with my pace? I don’t know if that would be adding to much mileage though. Normally I only do about 4-5 miles midweek when you count the trekking on Monday and my treadmill walk/run on Thursday. My long runs have been between 6 and most recently 13 on Saturdays. There is a trekking class on Friday and I don’t know if I should just keep that as a rest day or go for a couple more miles and maybe cut a few from my long runs. From here I will only be doing 16, 18, and 20, so if I cut 2 from each and work on my pace during trekking I would end up doing 14, 16, and 18. Thoughts?

3. Since I started training back in June I have done intervals by running/walking to recovery and then running again. I used to do set intervals (like Walk2/Run1) before I had my babies but found that it was mentally easier for me this time around if I didn’t have to look at the treadmill or my garmin every minute or so. Should I try a set interval to help my pace instead of running and then walking to recovery?

Thanks for reading if you are still with me!

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I had a few more questions. I normally arrive around 15 minutes early and get warmed up for the trekking class and when we start it is with the assumption that everyone is warmed up. In this case should I just add 15 minutes to the end of the class to make my hour?

I know it was not your intention but your reply made me feel as if my training was not up to par, thus far. I am feeling a little vulnerable about it and wondering if I should even try in January(I could still transfer to next year.....). My pace is right on the line sometimes (close to 16 minutes per mile). I so badly don't want to get swept and I guess I should have discussed what I was doing on the boards earlier. If I implement what you suggested, do you really think I have enough time to improve in the next 8 weeks?

Today I got to trekking 30 minutes early and did 2 miles with a 14:08 avg pace. I tried out a 1minuteswalking/30 seconds running interval.Towards the end of the second mile(right before trekking) I got a pain on the top of my foot....behind my toe and up my foot. It hurts when I flex my big toe back and forth. It is in the same place the bruise was that I got from the half marathon I did a few weeks ago(I thought my shoes were just to tight during the race). I discussed it with the instructor and she advised against trekking and suggested some foot stretches. I am going to get it checked out at the dr tomorrow. If I have an injury do you think it would be better to transfer or just train the best I can after it is healed and see what happens on race day. Thank you for your time and your opinion.

 

[rocio]

Howdy! It's good to see you guys running along with your training schedules. Sorry to hear about the tough weekend many of you had, but you all gave it your all!

Guess what? I got to run for 5 minutes today! In case you can't remember who I am, I sprained my ankle a little over 3 weeks ago and have been sidelined pretty much since then (I'm training for my first marathon and my longest run was 17 miles about a month ago). I've been working with a Physical Therapist and he let me try the treadmill today to see how I"m doing. He said my form looked good so he wanted me to try outdoors tomorrow. He said no more than 4-5 minutes at a time and to do it on even ground. I am so excited!!!! I can't wait until tomorrow! How dorky is that? You should have seen my big goofy smile as I ran on the treadmill (which i usually hate) but I was so thankful to be running. It made me smile big! I hope healing continues to go well and I can get back to training soon! You guys will have to help me figure out a modified Galloway schedule. Thanks!

 

[princessbride6205]

I'm trying a pool running class tonight for the first time. I'm hoping it is a good piece to add to my training and possibly even substitute it for one of my midweek runs. I think my bad knee would appreciate a little less pounding as we get into the home stretch for the marathon.

My 20-miler will be at my parents' house - on a [small] mountain! Not sure where to find enough miles and not feel like I'm hiking. I'll plan a route as we get closer. It will be Dec. 23rd for me.

 

[VernRDH]

Question about picking up someone else's race packet-how does it work for the Goofy? I remember hearing that Goofy runners get a wristband, if I am picking up my coach's packet, what about the wristband? Will they give it to me or does he have to go to the expo at some point to get it? We are getting in on Thurs early and going to the expo to get all the packets. My coach will not arrive until later that day and he is running the 5k the next day, hence the reason for me getting his packet.

Any insight appreciated.

 

[guava]

Howdy! It's good to see you guys running along with your training schedules. Sorry to hear about the tough weekend many of you had, but you all gave it your all!

Guess what? I got to run for 5 minutes today! In case you can't remember who I am, I sprained my ankle a little over 3 weeks ago and have been sidelined pretty much since then (I'm training for my first marathon and my longest run was 17 miles about a month ago). I've been working with a Physical Therapist and he let me try the treadmill today to see how I"m doing. He said my form looked good so he wanted me to try outdoors tomorrow. He said no more than 4-5 minutes at a time and to do it on even ground. I am so excited!!!! I can't wait until tomorrow! How dorky is that? You should have seen my big goofy smile as I ran on the treadmill (which i usually hate) but I was so thankful to be running. It made me smile big! I hope healing continues to go well and I can get back to training soon! You guys will have to help me figure out a modified Galloway schedule. Thanks!

Awesome! I totally understand your excitement! That was me three weeks ago. Just follow your doctor's recomendations and you'll be back to where you want to be sooner than you think.

 

[FFigawi]

Question about picking up someone else's race packet-how does it work for the Goofy? I remember hearing that Goofy runners get a wristband, if I am picking up my coach's packet, what about the wristband? Will they give it to me or does he have to go to the expo at some point to get it?

They don't do wristbands for Goofy anymore, sadly. It's all done through electronic records now. It was kind of fun to have the wristband on when walking around on Saturday and get the knowing smile and head nod from others wearing one too.

 

[Ariel484]

Question about picking up someone else's race packet-how does it work for the Goofy? I remember hearing that Goofy runners get a wristband, if I am picking up my coach's packet, what about the wristband? Will they give it to me or does he have to go to the expo at some point to get it? We are getting in on Thurs early and going to the expo to get all the packets. My coach will not arrive until later that day and he is running the 5k the next day, hence the reason for me getting his packet.

Any insight appreciated.

Just to add to what FFigawi said, they give Goofy runners one bib that has to be worn both days...last year the half bib was blue, the full bib was red and Goofy was orange, so that's how the Goofy runners are differentiated. You will just need to walk the bib over the timing mat to activate the b-tag, and make sure you have a copy of his ID, his signed waiver and the form authorizing you to pick it up for him..

 

[kmg148]

I just realized that the Galloway 1/2 plan has me doing 12.5 on 12/8, then 14 on 12/22. Is it silly that I don't want to do more than the 12.5 since I want my first "13.1" to be at Disney? Is it going to make that much of a difference for me to do 12.5 again on 12/22 and not 14?

NO WAY! Not silly at all! I did the same thing for the Princess. I wanted the first time I hit that distance to be at the half marathon. I did 12.5 for my final long run 3 weeks before the half!

 

[kmg148]

I have! The 2012 WDW Full Marathon. I'm using the same plan to train for Goofy. And I didn't get my 20-miler in due to an ice storm, so I topped out at 18 and still finished.

Thanks for your response! That makes me feel so much better. It's been very hard to get my runs in so I am going to need to drop down in mileage and I think this plan could help me!

If you read his book, he'll tell you a half a million people have successfully used his plan to cross the finish line of a marathon. I'm using the plan, with a few modifications for my schedule. It is better to approach the starting line slightly undertrained, than overtrained and injured. Trust the experts.

Thanks for replying. I just can't get over that mental part of those 6 miles!

 

[FFigawi]

Thanks for replying. I just can't get over that mental part of those 6 miles!

That's why they say the second half of the marathon begins at mile 20.

This is the point in the race where you need to be mentally strong, to trust in yourself and your training, and know that you are, in fact, fully prepared and able to get through those last few miles. I find it helps newer runners to break the race into three pieces. First comes a nice and easy 10 miles, the part spent warming up and getting settled into a groove. Then comes a solid and steady 10 miles - you're at your steady pace, you're feeling strong. Last part is just a 10K. After dozens of training runs with double-digit mileage, a 10K is nothing. Looking at it this way helps avoid thinking that you'll never get through those last six miles.

 

[SAHDad]

Just to add to what FFigawi said, they give Goofy runners one bib that has to be worn both days...last year the half bib was blue, the full bib was red and Goofy was orange, so that's how the Goofy runners are differentiated. You will just need to walk the bib over the timing mat to activate the b-tag, and make sure you have a copy of his ID, his signed waiver and the form authorizing you to pick it up for him..

That's a bummer. I hope the Disney bibs are more resilient than I recall - I have been known to destroy race bibs accidentally on a half marathon.

 

[VernRDH]

They don't do wristbands for Goofy anymore, sadly. It's all done through electronic records now. It was kind of fun to have the wristband on when walking around on Saturday and get the knowing smile and head nod from others wearing one too.

Just to add to what FFigawi said, they give Goofy runners one bib that has to be worn both days...last year the half bib was blue, the full bib was red and Goofy was orange, so that's how the Goofy runners are differentiated. You will just need to walk the bib over the timing mat to activate the b-tag, and make sure you have a copy of his ID, his signed waiver and the form authorizing you to pick it up for him..

Thanks for the replies! That will make life much easier for us.