If you couldnt afford a disney cruise , what would be your second choice cruise line

We've been comparing Disney with Carnival and were shocked to see we can go on a 7 night cruise for several THOUSAND less than a 4 night on Disney, so it is tempting. But, I see none of you have recommended Carnival on this thread. My question is... is Carnival really THAT bad? (I have never cruised at all, so I have no idea.)

Thanks!
Donna
 
When DCL went to the Baltics, the prices were insane.

Instead, we found a nearly identical itinerary (one minor port was different) on Royal Caribbean that was 2/3 less than DCL for two adults in an ocean view cabin.

Woody

DCL's 2010 Baltic cruise prices, starting at $3,649 pp (plus taxes) for the least expensive inside, were extremely high for a mass market cruise line. That didn't deter quite a few people from booking those cruises - and you know who you are! Knowing that their prices were very high compared to other cruise lines - DCL gave those who booked the Baltic cruises early a very generous onboard credit (~$400 pp?) to keep them from "jumping ship"! DCL eventually offered much lower gty rates for the first and (I think) second Baltic cruises after the penalty period began, and quite a few people cancelled and rebooked. After absorbing the penalties, they still saved thousands of dollars by rebooking at the lower prices.
 
ddboles said:
We've been comparing Disney with Carnival and were shocked to see we can go on a 7 night cruise for several THOUSAND less than a 4 night on Disney, so it is tempting. But, I see none of you have recommended Carnival on this thread. My question is... is Carnival really THAT bad? (I have never cruised at all, so I have no idea.)

Thanks!
Donna

I'm not a huge fan of Carnival, but I'll tell you what I think you should do. Go. Make your own decision. If you haven't sailed Disney, you won't know the difference.

I'd stay away from the older ships and I would not leave from New Orleans or a couple of the smaller ones. I'd focus on the ones that leave out of Florida (not Tampa) or The Magic out of Galveston.

Bring on the criticism... But IMO the older smaller ships out of the smaller ports are total party cruises and it's just too much...
 
DCL's 2010 Baltic cruise prices, starting at $3,649 pp (plus taxes) for the least expensive inside, were extremely high for a mass market cruise line. That didn't deter quite a few people from booking those cruises - and you know who you are! Knowing that their prices were very high compared to other cruise lines - DCL gave those who booked the Baltic cruises early a very generous onboard credit (~$400 pp?) to keep them from "jumping ship"! DCL eventually offered much lower gty rates for the first and (I think) second Baltic cruises after the penalty period began, and quite a few people cancelled and rebooked. After absorbing the penalties, they still saved thousands of dollars by rebooking at the lower prices.

Did they do the $999 Cat. 12 GTY on the Baltics like they offered on many of the Med cruises that year? I know they were practically giving away Repos from Barcelona to Dover and from Dover to Barcelona.

I predict we will see some decent GT rates on those 12 night Venice and Greece itineraries as well. :wizard:
 


Did they do the $999 Cat. 12 GTY on the Baltics like they offered on many of the Med cruises that year? I know they were practically giving away Repos from Barcelona to Dover and from Dover to Barcelona.

I predict we will see some decent GT rates on those 12 night Venice and Greece itineraries as well. :wizard:

No, the Cat. 12 GTY prices weren't that low! They were in the ~ $1,600 pp (+ taxes) range, as I recall. That was a very good price for a 12-night Baltic cruise.

Time will tell if more people want to cruise in the Med in 2013 than in 2012. As you and I know - 2012 has been a VERY good year to be a cruise buyer - especially in Europe!
 
NancyIL said:
DCL's 2010 Baltic cruise prices, starting at $3,649 pp (plus taxes) for the least expensive inside, were extremely high for a mass market cruise line. That didn't deter quite a few people from booking those cruises - and you know who you are! Knowing that their prices were very high compared to other cruise lines - DCL gave those who booked the Baltic cruises early a very generous onboard credit (~$400 pp?) to keep them from "jumping ship"! DCL eventually offered much lower gty rates for the first and (I think) second Baltic cruises after the penalty period began, and quite a few people cancelled and rebooked. After absorbing the penalties, they still saved thousands of dollars by rebooking at the lower prices.

We did! :) on board was more like $600. Paid for excursions in St. Petersburg. Fabulous cruise. Worth every penny.
 
We've been comparing Disney with Carnival and were shocked to see we can go on a 7 night cruise for several THOUSAND less than a 4 night on Disney, so it is tempting. But, I see none of you have recommended Carnival on this thread. My question is... is Carnival really THAT bad? (I have never cruised at all, so I have no idea.)

Thanks!
Donna

We have no problem recommending Carnival. We are cruising with DCL in March but the main reason is that we have always wanted to try a Disney cruise. Our upcoming Cruise on the Dream costs as much as our 8 day on Carnival and more tha the 5 day we did one we did this past March on Carnival.
 


We did! :) on board was more like $600. Paid for excursions in St. Petersburg. Fabulous cruise. Worth every penny.

I'd rather have a comparable price reduction than onboard credit. Other than using the credit to pay gratuities - OBC requires you to BUY something - like their excursions. I've been to St. Petersburg and will return for 3 days in 2013. That is the ONE port where I definitely would NOT want to do a ship's tour - at least not on a 40-passenger bus. A private tour in St. Petersburg is the best way to go - in my opinion.
 
I'm not a huge fan of Carnival, but I'll tell you what I think you should do. Go. Make your own decision. If you haven't sailed Disney, you won't know the difference.

I'd stay away from the older ships and I would not leave from New Orleans or a couple of the smaller ones. I'd focus on the ones that leave out of Florida (not Tampa) or The Magic out of Galveston.

Bring on the criticism... But IMO the older smaller ships out of the smaller ports are total party cruises and it's just too much...


Cruised out of Tampa on a 5 day cruise on the Carnival Paradise this past March and it was fine. There was a huge cross-section of guests.
 
I'd rather have a comparable price reduction than onboard credit. Other than using the credit to pay gratuities - OBC requires you to BUY something - like their excursions. I've been to St. Petersburg and will return for 3 days in 2013. That is the ONE port where I definitely would NOT want to do a ship's tour - at least not on a 40-passenger bus. A private tour in St. Petersburg is the best way to go - in my opinion.

Nancy, who did you use for your St. Petersburg private tour? We are planning to do a private 2 day tour next summer. There is NO way I would consider a ship's tour. Our kids are so used to private drivers and tour guides that I'm sure they would revolt if we suggested a ship's tour.
 
declansdad said:
Cruised out of Tampa on a 5 day cruise on the Carnival Paradise this past March and it was fine. There was a huge cross-section of guests.

We sailed the Carnival Legend out of Tampa on a 7 night cruise last year and loved it. Agree with the cross-section of people. DH had never cruised before so he had nothing to compare it to. He is now addicted to cruising and very much looking forward to his first Disney cruise next week! That being said, I wouldn't hesitate to book Carnival again since it fits into our budget much easier!
 
Nancy, who did you use for your St. Petersburg private tour? We are planning to do a private 2 day tour next summer. There is NO way I would consider a ship's tour. Our kids are so used to private drivers and tour guides that I'm sure they would revolt if we suggested a ship's tour.

In 2005 we used DenRus (www.denrus.ru), and we had a great tour with them. Since then, a number of small tour companies have sprung up. I intend to tour with Alla Tour next summer: www.alla-tour.com. You can read lots of reviews about the various tour companies at Trip Advisor: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g298507-Activities-St_Petersburg_Northwestern_District.html.
 
Has anyone else noticed the DIS 1.0 cruise at the end of August is on RCCL's Oasis? Looking forward to reading those reviews :disrocks:!
 
NancyIL said:
I'd rather have a comparable price reduction than onboard credit. Other than using the credit to pay gratuities - OBC requires you to BUY something - like their excursions. I've been to St. Petersburg and will return for 3 days in 2013. That is the ONE port where I definitely would NOT want to do a ship's tour - at least not on a 40-passenger bus. A private tour in St. Petersburg is the best way to go - in my opinion.

Thanks :) we didn't do a 40 passenger bus.
 
tajz90 said:
Thanks :) we didn't do a 40 passenger bus.

We normally don't take ship tours. Had a fab time. Awesome tour guides. Funny as heck and nice.

And we didn't pay too much more than the Cat 12 price... And we didn't sty in Cat 12 and never would.
 
I love cruises and so does my family! I have been on 22 cruises since I was a kid and usually go on 1 or 2 cruises a year. Here is the breakdown of cruiselines: 6 Carnival, 5 RCCL (with number 6 booked for next summer), 4 Princess, 4 NCL, 2 Disney, and 1 Celebrity. I have been on new and old ships, small and large ships, ships with freestyle dining vs. set time dining, ships that have lots of activities and ships with few activities scheduled during the day, etc. I have been on several ships more than once. I have visited Canada, Mexican Riviera, Caribbean, Mediterranean, British Isles, Baltic Sea, Alaska and Hawaii on various cruises. There are a lot of factors to consider when booking a cruiseline. The first thing to consider is no two cruiselines, no two cruiseships, no two cruise directors/staffs, no two experiences even on the same particular ship will ever be the same. Activities, food selection, staff, etc. change. Cruiseships age. I've been on a cruise ship when it was new and loved it and another time when it was old and falling apart and didn't care for it. I have enjoyed the food on some ships more than others even within the same cruiseline. I have been on big ships which rely more on having mini golf courses, ice skating, etc. vs. scheduling activities during the day, so I found those to be more boring as I prefer to do scheduled activities like crafts and trivia.

On the whole, I have had more positive experiences with cruises than negative. My most negative experience was when I had a suitcase delivered to me soaking wet on an NCL ship and had to go through a lot of aggravation to have guest services pay to have my clothes cleaned. But I have other positive experiences with NCL. So I choose not to let the negatives interfere with my planning. Having tried so many different cruiselines and ships, I know what I like. I like smaller ships, with lots of activities, keeping the same waiters, not sitting with other parties at my table, trying different itineraries, NYC/NJ departure ports (when possible to save money and the need to fly), etc. I know what cruiselines I like for particular itineraries. When cruising Alaska or Europe, I prefer Princess. When I want a Disney experience, I book Disney. When I am looking at the cost, I choose Carnival.

I will say that Disney is the only cruiseline on which I even bother going to the shows, as I find the others to all be boring. But on the whole I will cruise with whatever cruiseline fits. For those who don't like Carnival (which as a teen I was one of them), I recommend the Carnival Glory which usually goes to Canada during the summer. I've been on it twice and it seems to attract a nice group of people and it is well maintained.

My favorite RCCL ship is the Jewel of the Seas and not one of their larger ships. I found it to be a beautiful ship and loved how the glass elevators overlooked the ocean. I was on this ship in April and the Disney Magic at the beginning of August, and honestly I think it was nicer than the Magic except it didn't have the Disney vibe.

In terms of the kids programs, I have found my nieces and nephews aren't big on the kids' programs, no matter what cruiseline, including Disney. Although, I admit when I look at the Disney program, listed in the Navigator, I am pretty impressed. So the kids' programs, don't factor in when we pick a cruiseline.

The best thing you can do is figure out what you like and what is most important to you in a cruise. If the only thing that will make you happy on a cruise is having a Disney experience, choose Disney. But if you just want a good cruise experience, you can have fun and enjoy any. I know I do.
 
. . . If the only thing that will make you happy on a cruise is having a Disney experience, choose Disney. But if you just want a good cruise experience, you can have fun and enjoy any. I know I do.
Well said.

Woody
 
We :love::love::love: Carnival:thumbsup2 Great cruise line with excellent food and service.

We didn't care for Carnival at all. My DHJ said he would never sail DCL again, then we cruised Carnival, now he said ONLY DCL.

Others have said that they prefer better itineraries, we don't care where the ship is going. I only cruise for the tropical weather. So a cruise to anywhere other than the islands is a waste for me, and I don't really care about getting off and site seeing the Islands. Been there and done that. I do enjoy different beaches but for me, the ship is the vacation and the destination. I didn't enjoy the atmosphere on Carnival at all, and sense we really don't care about getting of the ship that much, Carnival doesn't make sense for us.
 
Clipped: I love cruises and so does my family! I have been on 22 cruises since I was a kid and usually go on 1 or 2 cruises a year. Here is the breakdown of cruiselines: 6 Carnival, 5 RCCL (with number 6 booked for next summer), 4 Princess, 4 NCL, 2 Disney, and 1 Celebrity. I have been on new and old .......

Thank you for that! Very good info to know.
 

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