Al Lutz - New DLR Prez, World of Color to open April 24, Passes needed to see WoC?

[pixiewings71]

I agree with Bob and with JustAKid.

I also agree with DM, I'd love better coffee, but I don't actually drink it much, I think Peet's would be even better!

Thanks for posting the updates, I hope the Showpass works GREAT, which I think is a GREAT idea BTW!

 

[lulubelle]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I disagree completely.

Fantasmic! and, presumably in the future, World of Color, are very popular attractions that require a substantial commitment (in time, and sometimes money) from those who want to see them.

The out of town visitors display this commitment to all things Disney by spending thousands of dollars in airfare, hotel, and food costs. In addition, they now need to camp out for hours just to see F!

I don't think it unreasonable that the new show requires the commitment of getting to the park early enough to get a Show Pass. If the out-of-towners can spend thousands just to get there, the local visitors can take a day off (or even a couple of hours in the morning!) to get the Show Pass. I think the idea that "gee, this will inconvenience me" is very self-centered. People waiting hours to see F! have been inconvenienced for years.

Like other posters, I think that the Show Pass is a brilliant idea.

-Bob

ITA with you Bob.
I am one of those AP'ers who spend A LOT of money in the parks. I stay onsite most of the time, bought DVC, eat at all the sit down restaurants and buy wayyyyyy to many souvie's. I take all the tours and my DD even worked there for two years. I LOVE the Showpass idea!

 

[LavenderPeach]

I think Disney should hire you!

Oooh! I think they should hire pinkbudgie too! Then maybe I can get some sort of family discount!

I think folks should just go with the flow... Buy an AP, park in the new parking structure, grab a Starbucks on the way to getting a Showpass, send an e-mail from your iPhone to the new President George Kalogridis, and then go see the new World of Color show.

Well, said.

I think the Showpass is a great idea. I never watch F! because I don't want to waste my DLR time sitting on concrete. I tend to avoid all the parades, fireworks and shows because the wait times (and crowds) are just getting ridiculous. Like PPs, I did wonder what that line for the tickets is going to look like. Sounds like it will be a mad house. And I wonder how long it will take for all the tickets to be gone on a typical day. It will be interesting to hear the initial reports from people on how their experience was.

 

[PinkBudgie]

Oooh! I think they should hire pinkbudgie too! Then maybe I can get some sort of family discount!



Well, said.

I think the Showpass is a great idea. I never watch F! because I don't want to waste my DLR time sitting on concrete. I tend to avoid all the parades, fireworks and shows because the wait times (and crowds) are just getting ridiculous. Like PPs, I did wonder what that line for the tickets is going to look like. Sounds like it will be a mad house. And I wonder how long it will take for all the tickets to be gone on a typical day. It will be interesting to hear the initial reports from people on how their experience was.

I'd love for them to hire me too, but obviously they didn't need me since they figured this one out on their own. Unless they were reading the posts....

Another reason I thought the showpass was a good idea (from a DLR money making point of view) is because bringing the locals in early, they are probably more likely to stay all day and spend more moneyin the park than if they just came for a few hours. I'm sure some will come and go, but I'm thinking that most will just stay.

It will be interesting to see how fast they run out and if that time gets later and later in the day as the months go on. If I was a local, I know I wouldn't try to see it for the first few months.

About Starbucks- Peets is better of course, but anything is better than that swill they serve now. So, I'm all for this improvement because as it is now I just go without coffee in the parks. People will buy this.

 

[LuLusApple]

Hey I must be a sheep too *baabaa* (as she watches the Disney channel) lol
showpass idea
starbucks idea
new president

so far so good I'll take what Disney gives me cause the alternative is no Disney.

 

[3Minnies1Mickey]

I'll take what Disney gives me cause the alternative is no Disney.

Amen!

 

[Disney Dreams]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I disagree completely.

And I am very sorry you feel the way you do. I completely disagree.

Fantasmic! and, presumably in the future, World of Color, are very popular attractions that require a substantial commitment (in time, and sometimes money) from those who want to see them...The out of town visitors display this commitment to all things Disney by spending thousands of dollars in airfare, hotel, and food costs.

There is no commitment of money required ever to see Fantasmic. It is a choice to spend money for a free show in order to have a chair with desserts. Both AP holders and non have the exact same options and I have never seen any data that supports the fact that APs or non are more likely to camp or pay. As for the money paid to take a vacation, I'm not really sure what this has to do with getting seats for WoC.

I don't think it unreasonable that the new show requires the commitment of getting to the park early enough to get a Show Pass. If the out-of-towners can spend thousands just to get there, the local visitors can take a day off (or even a couple of hours in the morning!) to get the Show Pass...People waiting hours to see F! have been inconvenienced for years.

And I think it's very unreasonable. Your argument that locals can take time off from work is very short-sighted. Not everyone has a job that affords them the ability to come into work a few hours late. Additionally, not all those on vacation hit the Parks first thing in the morning. Making something that takes place late at night available only to those who arrive early in the day is not reasonable. Locals and out-of-towners, AP holders and non have all experienced the inconvenience you mention. People can CHOOSE if they want to spend time or not. With WoC tickets being given out early in the day only, there is no choice. And those that can't be there early, completely miss out. Not reasonable.

IMHO I don't think that living in California shows loyalty. I think what shows loyalty is spending dollar after dollar to get to Disneyland!...

I agree. Living in So. Cal does not show loyalty at all. Spending money at Disney does. Locals and out-of-towners, AP holders and non all do this.

...instead of staking out seats for more then half a day!

There is nothing at Disneyland that requires taking half a day to get seats. Honestly. If you have in your plans to do this, please let me know what for and I will try to offer you alternative suggestions that have worked for us over the years.

- Dreams

 

[queenie82]

The Showpass idea for World of Collois a slap in the face to the hundreds of 1000s of Annual Passholders taht are the "bread and butter" for Disney throughout the year.

AP holders that live in Southern California and come to the Parks after work will essentially be shut out from the new show. These are the same people that collectively shell out 1,000s of dollars, have renewal history, and spending patterns over the years.

The idea of essentially making something unavailable to those who have shown their loyalty is just wrong.

- Dreams

Oh get over yourself!!!

Are you saying in an ENTIRE YEAR you can't find one day to get to the park in the morning!! If you can't then how loyal are you really????

Are you also saying that because paid nearly $3000 return airfare and the cost of the tickets and accommodation that I don't have the same right to get a guaranteed seat in a show as you???

Fastpasses are first in best dressed...
Get to park in the morning and get your showpass you precious darling

 

[Disney Dreams]

Oh get over yourself!!!

Are you saying in an ENTIRE YEAR you can't find one day to get to the park in the morning!! If you can't then how loyal are you really????

Are you also saying that because paid nearly $3000 return airfare and the cost of the tickets and accommodation that I don't have the same right to get a guaranteed seat in a show as you???

Fastpasses are first in best dressed...
Get to park in the morning and get your showpass you precious darling

Wow! There is no need for rudeness.

Please don't put false statements in my mouth as I did not say anything about me personally getting to the Park early or anything about anyone deserving something more than another. In fact, my entire points is that everyone should have an equal opportunity to see WoC, which the ShowPass does not allow.

And please withhold from name calling. It's not in the spirit of these boards.

- Dreams

 

[Kiwianna]

in how we will spend our travel dollars, and I don't expect any business to give me privileges because of distance travelled/money spent.
However, in this internet age, there must be some other way that seats can be allocated for events like Fantasmic, and in the future, World of Colour . I know you have to buy your park entrance in order to attend these shows, but surely there could be some way of selecting "extras" when you buy passes online.
We bought tickets for Fantasmic recently and I couldn't understand why it needed to be a three step process.

 

[queenie82]

Wow! There is no need for rudeness.

Please don't put false statements in my mouth as I did not say anything about me personally getting to the Park early or anything about anyone deserving something more than another. In fact, my entire points is that everyone should have an equal opportunity to see WoC, which the ShowPass does not allow.

And please withhold from name calling. It's not in the spirit of these boards.

- Dreams

How is there a lack of equality.
If you all get in there in morning and all get into the park at the same time and they are only given out on the day you arrive how is there ANY lack of equality

It actually seems to be the definition of equality.

The option they use in Tokyo for the show in front of the castle is a lottery.
You go to a machine with your ticket and put it in, select the show time you want (day or night), and then it is either instant win or not.

This in theory is equality...but say you are there only for 2 days and that is IT and you miss out both days (you can only try once per day).
Whereas an AP has far more opportunities.

I think the option DL have gone with is the MOST equal option out there. It is better than the camp out for 4 hours method for Fantasmic.
PLUS it actually allows those who are only there for a LIMITED time (not any time they want like AP holders) a chance to guarantee a set AND go on all the rides rather than losing hours of the day to sitting waiting.
= happier guest = more money spent in the park

OTHER than people who expect to rock up on the night just to see the show...who loses??????

 

[2wildchildzmom]

I am with you GrandBob,

I am so loving the show pass idea. Camping out or not getting to see a show is no fun.

 

[PinkBudgie]

One other thing to note- it isn't that people without a showpass can't see the show, they just won't get the special seating. From what is reported on Mice Age it sounds like you should be able to see the show from many other places.

 

[Mr.MouseFan]

As much as I'm leary about having to get a ticket to see a show at a Disney park, I understand the dynamics are different at Disneyland than they are at WDW.

From a business perspective, I think it's a great idea on Disney's part. All those people that camp out for hours on end to get a "good spot" are people that are not spending money in the parks, just taking up real estate. Figuring out a way to guarantee them a good view while also getting them back into the park and spending their money is a great move.

Let's also not forget that just because you're not able to get into the Paradise Park viewing area doesn't mean you won't be able to see the show from other locations around the lagoon.

 

[DLR29]

is no commitment of money required ever to see Fantasmic. It is a choice to spend money for a free show in order to have a chair with desserts. Both AP holders and non have the exact same options and I have never seen any data that supports the fact that APs or non are more likely to camp or pay. As for the money paid to take a vacation, I'm not really sure what this has to do with getting seats for WoC. .

First, while there isn't any "data" that proves it, but simple logic does. Tourists only have 2, 3, maybe a couple more days. They have a limited amount of time, therefore they want to do as much as possible within their visit of 3 days or so. They are not going to want to sit and wait for a WoC seat, wasting 1/2 of one of their days. However, AP holders can do that. If (hypothetically) an AP holder's job allowed them to have Friday night off, an AP holder could potentially arrive at DCA and sit and wait for the amphitheatre to open for multiple hours because they don't feel like they are wasting any time because they can always see the rest of DCA some other time. This is what could happen if they don't use the Showpass. And it wouldn't just be 1 AP holder, it would be thousands.

 

[LavenderPeach]

One other thing to note- it isn't that people without a showpass can't see the show, they just won't get the special seating. From what is reported on Mice Age it sounds like you should be able to see the show from many other places.

Good point.

 

[pycees312]

i'm my opinion the real reason for the show pass distribution center is simple... DCA has struggled for many years to get bodies into the park. The distribution may help with this if people are getting to the park early to get the show passes..at that point may as well stay verses spending the day in Disneyland and hoping over to DCA towards show time to get in line...
either way i'm all for it.

 

[Leggyb]

DVC members get a special viewing deck from the Villas. If you can see it from there, then imagine how fun it will be to ride Screamin or the Mickey's Fun Wheel while it is going on! I am so excited!

 

[DLtorgo]

If you read some of the comments on Miceage on Al's update they have some other good suggestions for the Showpass.

As proposed now I would think it would turn a 2 hour wait in the evening into a two hour wait in the morning to get your showpass. I like the idea but it might need to be tweaked to be fair to all guests.

Some suggestions on the board were-
Staggered distribution times.
Lottery like in Tokyo, but maybe with windows and you could keep trying every two hours.
A separate machine for AP holders
One showpass given to hotel guests. That rewards people who stay on property.

 

[blackjackdelta]

IMO they could choose a much better coffee supplier than Starbucks.

I am with you DM. I have to have my coffee fix in the AM but I do not care for Starkbucks, really to bitter for me.

Jack