Jon and Kate non bash post

There is always one that has to try to stir the pot. It oblivous you are a Kate hater. You can go to the other thread there are ton of Kate haters over there.

Geez - simmer down! :scared: Just making an observation on how this thread was moving since it was supposed to be a non bash thread!
 
I think they planned to seperate and maybe work on things but for Kate something happened (what it is, she hasn't made public yet) that made that impossible. Maybe it was the apartment shopping in NYC (not locally) or maybe it was his talking and giving pictures to "teen girls" that were at the gate to their property.

I am glad that they have put production on hiatis for awhile. I think it best for everyone to allow them to work through this in private (or as private as this 24 hour news society can be). Even if "the show is their life and thier life the show" this is a very private matter and should remain so.
 
I think they planned to seperate and maybe work on things but for Kate something happened (what it is, she hasn't made public yet) that made that impossible. Maybe it was the apartment shopping in NYC (not locally) or maybe it was his talking and giving pictures to "teen girls" that were at the gate to their property.

There has been some speculation that perhaps it was a financial decision. Maybe Jon was moving money around behind Kate's back? Don't know. Just throwing another option out there.
 
There has been some speculation that perhaps it was a financial decision.
I heard this as a reason for stating the two year seperation on the divorce papers. If they were living "seperate & apart" for two years, then all the money she made from the book and speaking engagments wouldnt be part of the marriage property.

If they were really living "apart" for over two years then the entire show has been a lie. The first (non "special") episode of the show aired in April 2007.
 
I heard this as a reason for stating the two year seperation on the divorce papers. If they were living "seperate & apart" for two years, then all the money she made from the book and speaking engagments wouldnt be part of the marriage property.

If they were really living "apart" for over two years then the entire show has been a lie. The first (non "special") episode of the show aired in April 2007.

Actually there's a link on the other thread about the 2 year thing. It doesn't mean they have been seperated for 2 years. It means if Jon contests the "irreconcilable differences" (or however it's worded) then the divorce would be finalized after 2 years of seperation instead of 90 days (if he agrees.) Sorry, I'm too tired to look up the link.
 
I heard this as a reason for stating the two year seperation on the divorce papers. If they were living "seperate & apart" for two years, then all the money she made from the book and speaking engagments wouldnt be part of the marriage property.

If they were really living "apart" for over two years then the entire show has been a lie. The first (non "special") episode of the show aired in April 2007.

I'm still not sure I understand this whole 2 years thing with relation to the divorce... but I agree with your second paragraph, completely. And I have a feeling this whole thing has the potential to get real nasty.
 
Actually there's a link on the other thread about the 2 year thing.
I understand that it doesn't mean that they have actually mean that they have been seperated for at least two years.


I'm still not sure I understand this whole 2 years thing with relation to the divorce...
Basically for the ease of the divorce it is better to say they have been seperated for two years then for two months. Just makes it quicker and less messy (if that is even possilbe).
 
Kate is going to be on the Today show today, Wed. If it ison before I have to leave I'll update. The preview said she was going to address how Jon pushed her for the divorce.
 
It was a reporter for People Magazine. Kate's interview will be in Friday's issue. She says she interviewed her last week (Thurs).

She said they told the kids together. Told older girls first and then the younger kids.

She said it was Jon's idea and he said he wanted out and had a lawyer and that she should get one too.

He doesn't want to be there.

She hasn't taken her ring off because she isn't ready and she said she feels it will upset the kids to see it gone and the finality/reality of it all.

That's about it.
 
Actually there's a link on the other thread about the 2 year thing. It doesn't mean they have been seperated for 2 years. It means if Jon contests the "irreconcilable differences" (or however it's worded) then the divorce would be finalized after 2 years of seperation instead of 90 days (if he agrees.) Sorry, I'm too tired to look up the link.


They would need to prove that they have been living as "individuals" and not a "couple" for 2 years. Not necessarily in different homes. If they kept separate bank accounts, separate credit cards, bought & sold property or cars individually without consulting the other.....these are all things you would do if you weren't married & considered yourself single. Looking back on the events that have played out....it's very possible they have been living this way for 2 years.
 
I feel so sorry for all of them. I actually cried a little on the last episode, u feel like u know them all these yrs. I like Kate, I think she had to be strong to raise those kids. The bashing is frankly disgusting to me. I did like Jon, but frankly I think he got overwhelmed with the whole situation, Kate's strong personality and bailed, particularly on the last episode where he said "I'm excited about a new life" or something to that effect, and that is so sad. I wish them all the best. I frankly think very few people could do what they have done and raise those kids, and I mean it in a good way. I hate the bashing of them, bc they are doing what they can to survive with those kids, and if that means shows, appearances, free things, good for them.
 
They would need to prove that they have been living as "individuals" and not a "couple" for 2 years. Not necessarily in different homes. If they kept separate bank accounts, separate credit cards, bought & sold property or cars individually without consulting the other.....these are all things you would do if you weren't married & considered yourself single. Looking back on the events that have played out....it's very possible they have been living this way for 2 years.

But I guess both of their names are on the mortgage or show contracts, so it may be hard to show they have not been a couple for 2 years.
 
You know I never understood why everyone was bashing Kate for doing book tours...she was out working making money for her and the kids.What was Jon doing out partying with 20 year old girls. When i first started watching the show i liked Jon and thought Kate was to uptight, but now i think he is the one that is selfish and she is doing all she can for her family.
 
You know I never understood why everyone was bashing Kate for doing book tours...she was out working making money for her and the kids.What was Jon doing out partying with 20 year old girls. When i first started watching the show i liked Jon and thought Kate was to uptight, but now i think he is the one that is selfish and she is doing all she can for her family.

Yeah, I agree also. Its sad bc I did like him initially too, and I think he got overwhelmed with the kids and everything and is acting selfishly. I remember one interview with Kate where she stated that she never knew how she survived the first year, and she meant that literally, how she managed to survive with 6 babies and the twins. Actually I think she said the first 2 years. I like her, she's doing what she can to take care of those kids. I can't imagine how hard it must have been for everyone.
 
I was watching an old episode yesterday where Kate said that they had the sextuplets because "she wanted a third child". She also said Jon was against the idea. In the American Chopper episode the way he said "I was 27, man!" with that tone of sadness and self-pity makes me think he feels like Kate is responsible for what his life turned out to be. All those kids, the show, having to stay at home, the media... although Jon never seemed to have a problem with the media until they started catching him cheating.
 
She never intentionally wanted 8 children. She's not the Octomom who I honestly have no sympathy for, well I really feel the doctor is the problem with her bc the Octomon is off the wall and couldn't provide for the children she already had, yet had more. Kate could have had selective termination, etc., etc., but elected to do her best. I'm sure she's weighing the pros and cons. I can't even imagine how hard it is to raise all those kids.
 
I really think he "Jon" is having a midlife crisis. I've seen it happen first hand around the same age and heard from countless others the same. I really feel bad for them all.

Do any of you know if there is an address where you can send things to them that they will actually get, I know it would be through TLC or a fan club or something to that affect. There is a book that was a huge blessing to me and our family that I would like to send to Kate.

Thanks,
Cristy
 

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