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[cati]

There probably are some structures that will need to come down, but saying the whole city should be razed is sort of like saying they should have killed everyone in the superdome due to the actions of a few.

You must have not read all of my responses. I have never been to NO. I wished I would have had the opportunity to before this happened. I always wanted to.

 

[arminnie]

There probably are some structures that will need to come down, but saying the whole city should be razed is sort of like saying they should have killed everyone in the superdome due to the actions of a few.

You must have not read all of my responses. I have never been to NO. I wished I would have had the opportunity to before this happened. I always wanted to. Where I live our city and town is VERY small, so it is hard for me to realize all of this by watching tv.

I would never even had thought about killing anyone just because of a few rotten apples at the superdome.

Cati - I just came back to this thread to add a post that I didn't mean to chastise youpersonally. I really did not mean to convey that you thought any people should be killed. I was just trying to come up with an equivalent reference.

I blame a lot of this on the national tv coverage. I've been getting almost all of my news from WWLTV of WDSU web casts. The local news have given so much more information on what is still there.

It has been HORRIBLE no question and to watch the network news it looks like the whole city is a cesspool. I've gone through the aerial photos posted on one of those sites and it is amazing how much is still there.

As far as repairing a flood damaged home - I've seen it in New Orleans and Houston in the past. Homes with MAJOR flood damange that were made as good as new.

I do remember thought about 20 years ago in Houston (or maybe longer) there were some major,major floods with bad damage. Several months later when those people had renovated their homes a second flood hit. Now that I just couldn't imagine.

I don't think you are a bad person. You just didn't have all of the information and asked a question based on what info you had access to.

 

[JimB.]

I understand the intent of the OP. I do not think she ever intended to mean to raze the city without proper opportunities to salvage personal assets or to recover those that have died.

But I DO understand her point in the sense that there will be many water ravaged structures that will be unsalveagable after the water has retreated.

This may turn into one of the largest urban renewal projects undertaken.

I think I heard that most of the FQ portion was "relatively" high and not flooded as badly. Anyone know if that is true??

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I hate to ask - but how will they know the difference between who died because of this catastrophe and who was adead prior?

I'm not sure the question....

but a coroner--if they opted to do autopsies--would be able to determine if the person died to drowning or another cause.

Those who have trauma--or died from drowning--would have died from the incident....

The ones dying for delay of aid--they will know that those deaths were not a direct result of the hurricane itself b/c they are at the staging areas.

I don't think they will do autopsies--it is all going to be estimations.

 

[cati]

This is all so overwhelming. I can not even imagine the terror that these people are facing. I mean they do not have homes, clothing. They dont even have jobs to buy food with. I really hope that right now everyone is sending things to these people. What about in 4 months??? I sure hope everyone just does not forget about these people.

Also, what about the people in Florida? I feel so sorry for everyone.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I think I heard that most of the FQ portion was "relatively" high and not flooded as badly. Anyone know if that is true??

bourbon Street and part of canal is dry--jackson square and jax brewery area is dry--it even looks like the market is dry....

This is from aerial photos.

Look here--you can find the quarter and you can see how much is dry--a good little bit of N'awlins--preserved.

Take a tour for yourself:
http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/new_orleans_pshsuperdome_aug31_05_dg.jpg

(if you are familiar with Jackson square--it is a good landmark and located if you scroll the image slightly from left and slightly from the top---it will be the lone former green space across from the river...the big long green space along the river is adjacent to the aquarium).

 

[ducklite]

Helloooooo...not all of the city was flooded, in fact there were sections that never had more than an inch of water in the street. So you propose levelling thsoe houses too? I think you'd first have to get past some owners who might take issue with your idea, and then their insurance companies who would apply their considerable political pressure to get your idea flushed right down.

My friends dad is living in his house in a part of the city that didn't flood. I can guarantee that if you approached his completely undamaged home (OK, a few cracked windows) you'd be looking down the business end of his shotgun.

Anne

 

[goin2disneyagain]

Helloooooo...not all of the city was flooded, in fact there were sections that never had more than an inch of water in the street. So you propose levelling thsoe houses too? I think you'd first have to get past some owners who might take issue with your idea, and then their insurance companies who would apply their considerable political pressure to get your idea flushed right down.

My friends dad is living in his house in a part of the city that didn't flood. I can guarantee that if you approached his completely undamaged home (OK, a few cracked windows) you'd be looking down the business end of his shotgun.

Anne

I just read another post from you where you were attacking the OP. You don't have to be so nasty in your responses.

 

[cati]

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[pattyT]

Remeber I am an ignorant northerner here - but I recall being told or reading somewhere that the previously dead (meaning before Katrena) would be an issue - that the form of burial would cause the bodies to float up and be an issue -
well after a week or longer how will they know

I'm not sure the question....

but a coroner--if they opted to do autopsies--would be able to determine if the person died to drowning or another cause.

Those who have trauma--or died from drowning--would have died from the incident....

The ones dying for delay of aid--they will know that those deaths were not a direct result of the hurricane itself b/c they are at the staging areas.

I don't think they will do autopsies--it is all going to be estimations.

 

[Feralpeg]

In addition to the bodies of people who died as a result of Katrina, they will have to do with many caskets that have been unearthed. That happened a few years ago with the floods in the midwest. I have no idea where they will take all of these individuals. By the time they get to many of them, they will be beyond point of recognition other than through fingerprints, dental records. Since many of the people's records will have been destroyed, if they even had any, it may be very difficult to identify bodies.

 

[goin2disneyagain]

Remeber I am an ignorant northerner here - but I recall being told or reading somewhere that the previously dead (meaning before Katrena) would be an issue - that the form of burial would cause the bodies to float up and be an issue -
well after a week or longer how will they know

I would think they would now by the amount of decomposition.

 

[Tanuki]

The caskets won't be much of a problem in New Orleans because they put their dead above ground in marble mausoleums. Where thanks to the heat and humidity of the climate in a matter of months only bones are left.

If they are forcing everyone from the flooded areas to evacuate, once they get everyone out there will be weeks of pumping the water out or waiting for it to evaporate way - New Orleans gets lots of rain. Then salvaging what can be salvaged and trying to locate any bodies - who by then may be a challenge to identify.

But once all that task is completed I think letting people rebuild exactly in the same below sea level manner as before would be a mistake

There is no law that says that another category 5 Hurricane couldn't come thru there next year (or next month for that matter). Hurricane Ivan went thru the same general area (Biloxi) just last year.

 

[BibbidiBobbidiBOO]

If they are forcing everyone from the flooded areas to evacuate, once they get everyone out there will be weeks of pumping the water out or waiting for it to evaporate way - New Orleans gets lots of rain.

I probably have missed it somewhere, but where exactly will this awful, polluted, vile water go?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The caskets won't be much of a problem in New Orleans because they put their dead above ground in marble mausoleums. Where thanks to the heat and humidity of the climate in a matter of months only bones are left.

There were caskets unearthed (saw a photo). Not too much trouble to rebury them--but they are still remains that must be dealt with respectfully.

 

[lulu71]

Cati - I understand what you're saying, I guess. And no, I don't think you're a bad person. In a way if they bulldoze my house, which I'm confident cannot be repaired because from satellite photos I cannot see my roof, it would be a favor, KWIM? But I'd like to get things like my china and crystal and my grandmother's gold-plated ornaments, which I know can be salvaged. Good thing I'm lazy and haven't put anything back in the china cabinet after we had our wood floors refinished so everything's boxed and is probably not floating.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Remeber I am an ignorant northerner here - but I recall being told or reading somewhere that the previously dead (meaning before Katrena) would be an issue - that the form of burial would cause the bodies to float up and be an issue -
well after a week or longer how will they know

oooohhhh, the already buried ones. Gotcha.

I think that it will be very evident a victim versus unearthed remains.
Caskets will pop up. For bodies buried without a casket--there problem isn't much remains but skelatal.

They estimate 6 months to drain the city, in that time--any deceased as a result of the hurricane could have some decomposition--but probably not that much.

(Based on CSI -- a television show and not confirmed from a real life source, so take it for what it's worth).

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I probably have missed it somewhere, but where exactly will this awful, polluted, vile water go?

Rumor is the gulf--but they spoke at some point--and environmental experts will be brought it to do as much as they can to treat the water....but some will seep into the gulf.

 

[pattyT]

(Based on CSI -- a television show and not confirmed from a real life source, so take it for what it's worth).

aaah gotcha -
I was thinking that the decompostion element would be irrelevant due to the circumstances and the longevity of the clean up...

what an absolute nightmare that I can not even fathom..

LuLu I am sooooo soryy - and I hope those precious items of yours are safe and sound - at least he most precious thing in your life is - love the picture in your siggie what a sweetie...

 

[BibbidiBobbidiBOO]

Rumor is the gulf--but they spoke at some point--and environmental experts will be brought it to do as much as they can to treat the water....but some will seep into the gulf.

That's what I was afraid of...
(we are not far from the gulf beaches here )