Wow!

[newtowdw1]

Sorry. Just an expression DH and I use ... "Well, THAT's a beating offense!" No, we don't really beat them... just dream of it occasionally!

Also, other poster have stated that their parents would have 'whooped their *ss.' Where I came from that meant beating.

 

[RitaZ.]

If it's like my high school, the honors kids wander the halls because they have a different schedule, different assignments, different errands, different objectives. I don't see that as a problem. With responsibility comes privileges. This girl obviously handles a LOT of responsiblity very well. She was about to go back and take a test so she could go to see colleges. We're talking about a high anxiety situation here. Flying, by herself, to Oregon, to see colleges. Do you see a reason for the girl to be stressed? I do!!

It doesn't sound like her school is like yours. Otherwise, she wouldn't have been expected to sign in and have a pass with her.

Let me see if I understand your rationale... You're basically saying that based on this student's workload, accomplishments and so on, she should be held to a different set of rules and consequences when she breaks them. "Special rules" for "special kids"? Is that right?

 

[newtowdw1]

It doesn't sound like her school is like yours. Otherwise, she wouldn't have been expected to sign in and have a pass with her.

Let me see if I understand your rationale... You're basically saying that based on this student's workload, accomplishments and so on, she should be held to a different set of rules and consequences when she breaks them. "Special rules" for "special kids"? Is that right?

Nope, not at all. I'm saying that since she's never been in trouble, she wasn't anticipating any. Further, I bet she's wandered through those halls plenty of times without a pass. Our kids are supposed to have passes too!

All kids do things wrong. However, honor kids generally manage to do things wrong in a less exciting manner. Further, it doesn't sound like this rule was very well known, or at least not very well enforced. If the mother walked through without anyone asking her to sign in, how often do you think the kids do this? My speculation is ALL THE TIME!

It's a high school, not a prison. I'm not willing to condemn this girl. She made a mistake. One that could get her arrested in the 'real world.' However, my point was that she felt at home and safe in the school, and did not necessarily realize that her non-compliance was such a big issue. Children do not always recognize how quickly things escalate. Now she knows.

I'm glad we don't have security guards at our school.

 

[Nancy]

I don't know, my daughter is an honors student, takes AP classes and I asked her if she gets special treatment. Nope not at all. Her class times are the same as everyone elses, she needs a pass to walk the halls if not in between classes. She needs to sign in if she comes to school late and she needs to sign out if leaving early (which requires a note from me). There is one door they are allowed to leave from and there is another door they are allowed to enter in if they arrive even 5 minutes after the first bell rings. There is a desk and a woman sitting there and she makes everyone sign in. The attendance office is just to the right of the doorway and if I come in the school to pick up homework I have to sign in even though I will be going about 1 foot inside the doorway and I am in full few of the woman maning the desk. Unfortunately school has become more prison like, they just had a 4 hour lock down last week because some kid brought a replica of a gin to school. He dropped it, teachers aid saw it, yelled at him to stop, he picked it up and ran. Even the police said (after the kid turned himself in) that the replica was so good if he had pointed it at them the kid would have been shot.

every school is different. My guess is if they have security and a real police officer in the school is that she is well aware of the rules, she chose to not follow them and the only problem is she got caught. Once caught she should have just done as asked regardless of how the security person was being. And I also think if they have issues with her (security) being aggressive all the time then the parents of that school need to complain to the board and have her removed from that postion.

 

[newtowdw1]

Holy cow! Nancy, you're in Kenmore! We used to scrimmage their field hockey team. Does your DD go to Kenmore East or West? Those are pretty big schools. The one I teach at graduates fewer than 150 kids, and is pretty rural. We've had kids with guns in their trucks because they go out deer hunting right before or right after school. The principal had to talk to a few about how that's not really appropriate anymore.

I know safety is a huge concern. And your post is very reasonable. But few schools in southern New York have the security seen even in small schools in Western New York. I suppose I am allowing my small towness to color my view.

And I agree. Children should follow rules. But when rules are inconsistently upheld, I think children do not follow the rules. Sounds like security is not that tight at OP's school.

 

[Nancy]

I have one out of school, one in West and one in the middle school. West is big, there are tons of students.

 

[PrincessTiff]

It doesn't sound like her school is like yours. Otherwise, she wouldn't have been expected to sign in and have a pass with her.

Let me see if I understand your rationale... You're basically saying that based on this student's workload, accomplishments and so on, she should be held to a different set of rules and consequences when she breaks them. "Special rules" for "special kids"? Is that right?

She was actually defending your daughter and you go bonkers on her??

 

[JPN4265]

And since the Mom has not returned to this thread yet, let me be the first to say I think its way cool that your DD is a big sister. That is a program that I was involved with when I was younger and its a really rewarding experience for both the "big" and "little" sisters. Good luck to her, and I hope she has no more run-ins with security at her school!

Anyone else starting to thinking that just maybe we all just got hit by a TROLL?

 

[JunieJay]

Anyone else starting to thinking that just maybe we all just got hit by a TROLL?

A troll with over 1300 posts? Uhhhh, no.

This thread is unbelievable.

Linda -- It looks like you got all sorts of opinions on this thread. Some people expressed it very respectfully, but I'm sorry people felt the need to attack the character of your daughter based on one incident they read on an Internet message board. In any case, my best to your daughter. May she steer clear of school security, and again, best of luck to her with her honors classes and the IMPORTANT work she is doing as a Big Sister.

 

[MushyMushy]

I've seen a few instances in just the past few weeks where an honors or gifted student has spoken that disrespectfully to someone in charge. Where do they get this idea that they are so superior to everyone else? Where else does it matter in life if someone is gifted or in honors? It's usually clear in those cases that they get that attitude from the parents.

Most of them are lovely and a delight to be around, but then you have the one who thinks he/she is above everyone else.

I don't know why ANY parent would think it's okay for a child to drop the f-bomb on an adult. That's just unbelievable. MY child has a behavioral disorder, so you'd think if anything excuses a kid, that would be it (and come on, please tell me a so-called "honors" student ought to know better!!!). HUH UH. That doesn't fly with me. The first time my kid ever said damn to a teacher, he found his butt grounded for a very long time. There's no way on earth I'd be making excuses for him.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Just made it through 8 pages, and all I have to say is WOW.

I graduated in 1996. If this situation had happened to me, regardless of whether or not my mom heard ALL versions of the parties involved, my *** would be grass for speaking to someone in authority like that. Hands down, forget the other stuff.

*sigh* This is the generation that will be taking care of mine someday. Scary.

 

[SeaSpray]

If it's like my high school, the honors kids wander the halls because they have a different schedule, different assignments, different errands, different objectives. I don't see that as a problem. With responsibility comes privileges. This girl obviously handles a LOT of responsiblity very well. She was about to go back and take a test so she could go to see colleges. We're talking about a high anxiety situation here. Flying, by herself, to Oregon, to see colleges. Do you see a reason for the girl to be stressed? I do!!

I think you've got that backwards; with PRIVILEGE comes RESPONSIBILITY.

If any student gets special privileges because of whatever reason (honor student with a special/different schedule), then they have the RESPONSIBILITY to, among other things, remain within the safety/security parameters of the school.

 

[RitaZ.]

She was actually defending your daughter and you go bonkers on her??

Excuse me? I think you have me confused with someone else.