Would you consider the Magic and Wonder a midsize or large ship?

[chaseg03]

I've seen it different all over different websites. Curious what yalls I put it.

 

[Neptune's Fork]

Mid size, in the current ship world I would guess. They aren't little. I would say large but then that could be misleading compared to these big ugly blocks that Norwegian and Royal are sailing these days.

 

[wombat_5606]

Cruise Critic says a Large ship is between 2000-2999 passengers. So the Magic/Wonder would be Large ships.

Mega ships have more than 3,000 passengers. Therefore, the Dream/Fantasy would fall in that category.

I've been on ships with less than 2000 pax, so I would tend to agree that the Magic/Wonder are large.

 

[chaseg03]

Cruise Critic says a Large ship is between 2000-2999 passengers. So the Magic/Wonder would be Large ships.

Mega ships have more than 3,000 passengers. Therefore, the Dream/Fantasy would fall in that category.

I've been on ships with less than 2000 pax, so I would tend to agree that the Magic/Wonder are large.

Odd, cruise critic has them as a midsize when they did the cruising awards.

 

[Cackyschmackers]

My favorite cruise ship ever had 754 pax. Okay, okay, it *was* my favorite before I cruised on the Magic. Midsize? What is that cutoff?

 

[wombat_5606]

Odd, cruise critic has them as a midsize when they did the cruising awards.

LOL, they didn't even follow their own designations.

I'm sure for most cruisers, they even seem small, since the trend is for gargantuan.

 

[ivanp91]

LOL, they didn't even follow their own designations.

I thought it was really odd when I saw the Magic and Wonder in the mid-size category, when the website said "up to 2,000 guests", especially knowing they hold several hundred more than that...

 

[Anchors Away 2016]

They may rate the ship based on two persons per cabin, not the max it could hold, just to be consistent since sometime ships use more or less of those extra spots per cabin. As long as it evaluates all ships by the same method, it is fine.

 

[Ralph&Pam]

They may rate the ship based on two persons per cabin, not the max it could hold, just to be consistent since sometime ships use more or less of those extra spots per cabin. As long as it evaluates all ships by the same method, it is fine.

Yes, this. The Magic and Wonder have 875 cabins each while the Dream and Fantasy have 1250 each, so double occupancy would be 1750 and 2500 respectively. Our most recent WBTA on the Magic sailed with about 1800 pax. It's wonderful.

 

[kiford]

I think as cruise ships get bigger, the "standard" of >2,000 being large is no longer as valid as it used to be. Especially as now that some of the mega ships are >5,000. According to a book I have, the Oasis of the Seas has 2,700 cabins so at 2/cabin it has a capacity of 5,400). It doesn't make sense to me classifying two ships as mega when one holds 3,000 and one holds 5,400. I would presume that a ship that holds 5,400 will have vastly more amenities and options than one that holds 3,000 and the process of embarkation/debarkation is a totally different experience so I have a hard time thinking of them in the same way.

I would personally classify Magic/Wonder as mid-size and the ones that hold less than 750 as niche or boutique. But every source categorizes differently. Even the book I used classifies large as >2,000 and has no mega category. But it also classifies Magic and Wonder as mid-sized based on 2 persons/cabin (1,750 capacity) as AnchorsAway mentions. I think it's best to look at how the source you're using classifies in order to understand: (a) how they calculate it; and (b) what it means/why they consider the size relevant (i.e., what does their large versus mid-size mean to them in terms of comfort, amenities, busy-ness, etc.).

 

[jrabbit]

@wombat_5606, @chaseg03, @ivanp91, @Ralph&Pam
The Classic ships have about 875 rooms if I remember correctly and the number of passengers that a ship holds is based on Double Occupancy so the Magic and Wonder hold about 1,750 passengers. But we all know that DCL's real occupancy is much higher on these ships.

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My first real comparison in the size of the ships was in Nassau when all of the ships were parked next to each other in 1999. But most of those ships were about the same size.

Fast Forward to 2007 and the Magic was in Barcelona. We were up on Mount Juic and saw her docked next to another ship that was "much" larger - was easy to tell the difference in size.

The next year we were anchored in St. Thomas when Explorer of the Seas sailed in past us. Holy Moley That IS A HUGE Ship!!

Then later on we were on the Fantasy and were close to one of the "Explorer Class" ships, and they seemed fairly close to the same size.

And obvi the Fantasy is tiny compared to the Oasis class ships!!

 

[kiford]

The next year we were anchored in St. Thomas when Explorer of the Seas sailed in past us. Holy Moley That IS A HUGE Ship!!

Then later on we were on the Fantasy and were close to one of the "Explorer Class" ships, and they seemed fairly close to the same size.

1,557 rooms on the Explorer of the Seas, 1,250 on the Fantasy so she's a little bit larger. By tonnage, she's only about 7,000 tons more (~130,000 for Fantasay and ~137,000 for Explorer). But the Oasis class: ~223,000 tons and 2,704 rooms. Way too big for my liking. And, yes, you are correct, the Magic has 875 rooms at ~83,000 tons.

 

[bbel]

Personally I'd call it a Mid-size cruise ship, but a large ship...