Would this make you mad...it did me.

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We took the twins(6) to Luray Caverns on Sunday.

The first thing that they tell you when go down to the first level is please don't touch the formations. The oils from your skin can mess up the process that is going on (later on he showed us one that was touched and how messed up it was).

So we don't take 3 steps and a lady in front of us runs her hand across the first formation. Of course dgd notices it and asks me why she is touching it when they said not too. I in my nice semi-loud voice said "Some people just don't listen and do what they are supposed too".

A little while later darn if another lady doesn't do the same thing. I can honestly say that little puffs of steam probably came out of my ears. No wonder there are children out there that don't obey the rules, if an adult won't obey the rules, how do you teach a child to obey the rules.

Okay, enough rant. The caverns are just beautiful and when they turn the lights off, wow. You don't know dark until you have been in a cave with no lights. I thought dh would have a fit, he doesn't like being underground as it is, but I must say the twins thought it was too cool.

The other thing that worried me was dh decided to give the twins some gum. I worried the whole time that the gum was going to end up somewhere where it shouldn't. Wouldn't that be nice when the guide pointed out a formation and someone remarked how it looked like a wad of gum. Finally found a trash can so I could breathe a little easier after that. I have this gum phobia thing going. :rotfl2:
 
anut4disney said:
if an adult won't obey the rules, how do you teach a child to obey the rules.
You don't know dark until you have been in a cave with no lights. .

yeah - I'd of been ticked too. People are something else. :rolleyes:

Im been in a cave too, when they shut the lights off.... obnoxiously dark. Like "I never knew it could be so dark" dark... very weird.
 
anut4:

I couldn't agree more! What is up with people - ask them not to do something - and its the first thing they do!! I also hate it when it sets a bad example for children. I just don't get it - do they not listen, do they think they are above the rules, do they think it isn't as important as it is made out to be??? :confused3
 
I'll never forget the berating I got from a (very cute!) guide at Howe Caverns (NY I think?) when I was younger.

I had on a jacket ( as it was cold down there! ) and had my hands pulled into my jacket sleeves. we were all walking and came to a stop so the (very cute!) guide could talk. Some broad with a big bag pushed me out of her way...I put my hand out (in my jacket) to stop myself from falling. My jacket-covered hand hit a formation...and stayed there until I steadied myself...so, what, 10 seconds if that?

"I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN TO PLEASE NOT TOUCH THE FORMATIONS!!"

omg..I look up and the (very cute) guide is GLARING right at me.

eep

heheheh
 

Yes, that would make me mad.

At most of the museums in Paris you are allowed to take photographs, sans flash. I could not believe the number of people who used their flash. Just think of all the damage being done to priceless and irreplaceable treasures of millions of flashes. If you want a good picture, buy a post card!

Denae
 
I might get mad, but sadly I've been there (well, not those caverns, but others) and done that. :blush: Sometimes it's just uncontrollable human nature to do something you are told not to do -- the "forbidden fruit" syndrome. In caverns like that, human instinct is to reach out and touch something that is so amazing, even when you know you shouldn't.

Fortunately, on some tours we've taken the guides point out some formations that they encourage people to touch or rub -- so you can get it out of your system.
 
When we toured the Green Grotto caves in Jamaica they instructed us the same thing...do not touch!

So, not two seconds later some little kid walks right up to the formation and touches it - right in front of everybody. Okay, did I mention it was my kid? LOL. Talk about mortifying. But, he was only 4-years-old and I didn't grab him in time. Adults - they should know better.

:blush:
 
You just let it all out now girl!!

First off, I am glad you all had fun. Most important thing.

Second, I know what you mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see it every time I'm out and about. Parents setting one bad example after another for their kids to follow.

I think I mentioned this before but it never fails to amaze me. DD and I went shopping once and the dressing rooms were locked. The sales lady came over and opened up one of the rooms and inside it was a disaster! Clothes everywhere. On the bench, the hooks, but mainly on the floor.

She quickly scooped everything up and apologized for the mess. I said not to worry, it wasn't her fault. She then told me that the people who had been in the room before us were a mother and her little girl. What sort of an example was she setting for her child?
I wonder if she said,"Oh, don't worry if it doesn't fit or you don't like it, just throw it on the floor honey. They have people to clean up after us." She might as well have, because that's the message she was sending by leaving such a mess.

I know it's only a little thing, but it's the little things that we should be focusing on the most sometimes. Like common courtesy for others. :rolleyes:
 
I do not think I would be mad but I would be disgusted with an adult doing this. You kinda expect a child to want to touch out of pure curiosity but an adult should be able to control the impulse esp after being shown how a simple touch could damage the process. I think I would have yelled, "Hey, they said no touching!"
 
Skywalker said:
When we toured the Green Grotto caves in Jamaica they instructed us the same thing...do not touch!

So, not two seconds later some little kid walks right up to the formation and touches it - right in front of everybody. Okay, did I mention it was my kid? LOL. Talk about mortifying. But, he was only 4-years-old and I didn't grab him in time. Adults - they should know better.

:blush:

I saw dgs get ready to touch was able to grab him in time. :rotfl2:
 
Yes, that would make me mad!

Last month while in Hawaii we attended an evening performance of Poylnesian dancers, singers, and other performers. There were signs everywhere, (on the tickets, on the walls, in the programs), asking people to NOT use flash photography. Before the show started, an announcement was made about not using any type of flash photography. There were employees standing at the end of every aisle by the stage holding up large signs saying "NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY". They even had signs with the international symbol of a red circle with a slash through a camera with a flash, for those people who maybe didn't understand English.

I was absolutely dumbstruck by the number of audience members who STILL took flash photos!! I really couldn't believe it! I saw several audience members being talked to by employees who could figure out where the flash was coming from, but of course they couldn't locate all the idiots.

It really detracted from a wonderful show. People can be real half-wits. :mad:

Where is that kid everyone had in class that loved to tattle on everyone else!?! Seems we could use him now! "Hey mister, that person just took a picture with their flash, (or touched something when you said not to!). Right over there! I saw him!"
 
Just another example of people who think that the rules apply to everyone but them!

Suzi
 
People like this just really bother me. They are obviously so special that simple rules don't apply to them. Adults should be able to control themselves from touching things.

I have been to Howe Caverns before (yes it is in NY). They are beautiful. I also get the urge to touch things that look cool. But when you see how one touch can ruin the caverns you better believe I will be keeping my hands in my pockets.
 
ITA! When we where snorkling off of Maui our group was instructed not to touch the sea life. It was great... we saw all sorts of fish and 3 sea turtles. Then this BIG boat of people come up and I believe they were instructed the same thing "Don't touch the sea life" We'll then the kids came out and were trying ot see who was the first person to get down there and touch the turtle, pull the starfish, etc. Uuuhg. One was showing their mom what they did and she just said "thats nice dear". I was soooo tempted to say "How would you feel if I just come over to your house, and rip you out of it... or just keep touching you when your sleeping." People!
 
Parkhopper said:
Just another example of people who think that the rules apply to everyone but them!

Suzi
Yes, Yes, Yes!!! DH is really an easy-going person, but this is one area that will really get him fired up! He hates it when there are signs every where saying not to do something and everyone else is following them but there's always that one person or family who just thinks they are above the rest of us and don't need to listen to the rules. So frustrating!! :rolleyes:
 
I was once in a museum in Vienna, Austria. I was overwhelmed by the beautiful paintings and wanted so much to touch one. However, there were signs posted in several languages saying NOT to touch them, and I could imagine what would happen if everyone touched them, so I resisted the temptation.

Boy was I glad I had as a few minutes after I had been sorely tempted to touch a masterpiece, an middle-aged man in the same room did so. He reached out with one finger and barely touched it. Well, alarms went off and two museum guards came running at him, shouting, "NEIN!! NEIN!!" Wow, was I glad I hadn't dared to touch one! :faint:

Too bad the cave formations can't be wired with alarms ;) That does really make me angry, though. Those formations are thousands of years old and touching one can "kill" it. Sheesh. How incredibly selfish of the woman.

Laurie
 
I've been to Luray Caverns, it's a pretty neat place. I think I may have been mad at the person touching formations inside, especially just after being told not to. But what can you do? Some people are just inconsiderate.
 
What I find equally frustrating is when nothing is done about. If the first person who used flash photography was escorted out, I hope it would decrease/prevent other people.
 


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