worst flight home on southwest , have you experience this......

[wdwstar]

we had three young flight attendants, 2 males and 1 female, ok that was not bad, until the male flight attendant did his comdy safety speech..........

lets pretend that you are listen to the safety rules .... and for some reason this flight turns into a cruise flight your life persures are under your fanny........ and when your Gucci masks fall from the ceiling please put yours on first then your husbands unless you dont want to......then let him just pass out.... and remember when you light up the flight attendants light button doesnt mean you are really lighting us up, two hands on the light up button for the males one hand on the button for the female ....
this is a non smoking flight and if you choose to smoke, please step out on the wing and let us see if you really can light that smoke...

he went on and on... and finally

thanks for flying the only airlines that you should fly, southwest, now get off my aircraft...

there is nothing funny about airline safety and if that wasnt enough the female flight attendant served us pop/snack and spent the rest of the flight in the cockpit with the pilots and the two male flight attendants were in the back of the plane sitting down, i could see their feet .
at one point a woman wanted to go to the bathroom and didnt know what door to open, we were all screaming when she started to pull on all the handles

there were two little kids flying by themselves, 7 and 4, that is right a 4 year old and the two were from to different families, not related. well i dont have to tell you , thats right no one was watching them, i took care of the 4 year old getting him something to drink and throwing his candy wrappers away. then finally we were landing and the 7 year old girl didnt have her seat belt on, she was standing at the window we were getting ready to touch down, i yelled little girl put your seat belt on dsis pushed the flight attendants button and they came running and then they were patting us on the shoulder "great eye", dsis and i didnt even look at the flight attendants, we were so mad that our safety, the whole planes safety was jeopardize, no flight attendant up front for most of the flight when all airlines tell you 1 person only using the bathroom at a time, stand behind the line on the floor if the bathroom is occupied.

i am going to write a letter to southwest, but i dont have the flight attendants names just what flight it was and what time.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

they often keep the safety lecture light, sorry you did not find the humor.
After serving drinks, what else would you like them to do? If you need them, you press the button.
As to the 4year old flying alone, that is against FAA rules. Wonder how that happened. Cannot fly alone unless you are 5 and over.
To the woman who did not know what door to use, it must be hard to be so stupid NOT to see the sign for the restroom.
Kind of hard for children to get lost in an aircraft and I don't think they need to be watched every minute of the flight.
It was nice of you to be attentive to them, however.
HOw did the fact that the females were with the pilot, the males were in the back, affect the safety of your flight? The captain flies the plane, not the FAs.

no flight attendant up front for most of the flight when all airlines tell you 1 person up front, stand behind the line on the floor...

I have no idea what you mean by this, but, if the female FAs were in the cabin with the pilots, then there were FAs in the front.
Write your letter, but, I doubt they were doing anything wrong.

 

[wdwstar]

if the FA was in the cockpit with the pilots, then someone could have walked up to the aircraft door and try to open it or tried to get into the cockpit or been fooling around in the FA station while the other two FAs were in the back of the plane reading their magazines and they were not paying attention to anyone, if the FAs needed to take a break during a 2 hour flight, that is fine, but to be in the cockpit more then half the flight, that just doesnt seem right.
now a days with everything going on in the world you never know whos flying with youor what they are attempt to do. and if there were any under cover agents on board im sure they would have questioned why passangers were hang out up front in the fa station.
i know with flying other airlines there are always 2 FA in front and sometimes they even question people that start forming a line for the bathrooms, they ask people to wait until the person returns to there seat before the next one gets up.

you may be right about southwest not doing anything, but i know i wont fly southwest again and im just passing on the info for anyone else feels the same as me.

i didnt see any humor in the safety rules, especially for those who never flew before may not have understood what the FA was saying.
and if southwest wants to represent themselves in using safety rules as a side show, then they can keep their airline tickets, im sure they wont miss me purchasing but they will miss those other people that feels the same way.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by wdwstar
if the FA was in the cockpit with the pilots, then someone could have walked up to the aircraft door and try to open it or tried to get into the cockpit or been fooling around in the FA station while the other two FAs were in the back of the plane reading their magazines and they were not paying attention to anyone, if the FAs needed to take a break during a 2 hour flight, that is fine, but to be in the cockpit more then half the flight, that just doesnt seem right.
now a days with everything going on in the world you never know whos flying with youor what they are attempt to do. and if there were any under cover agents on board im sure they would have questioned why passangers were hang out up front in the fa station.
i know with flying other airlines there are always 2 FA in front and sometimes they even question people that start forming a line for the bathrooms, they ask people to wait until the person returns to there seat before the next one gets up.

you may be right about southwest not doing anything, but i know i wont fly southwest again and im just passing on the info for anyone else feels the same as me.

i didnt see any humor in the safety rules, especially for those who never flew before may not have understood what the FA was saying.
and if southwest wants to represent themselves in using safety rules as a side show, then they can keep their airline tickets, im sure they wont miss me purchasing but they will miss those other people that feels the same way.

Perhaps, but, most people do find the humor in their safety lectures. Most like the humor and laid back attitude of SWA. But, like everything, you cannot please everyone.
You cannot form a line for the bathroom in the front of the plane.
You can in the back.
Obviously, there were two in the front and two in the back, they just were not endlessly pacing the aisle. If someone needed them, they have a call button to summon them. Where they chose to be, as long as it is within FAA rules is not an issue. What fool would try to open the door to the aircraft? With the security being as tight as it is, I don't think this is an issue.
I am sure SWA will miss you as a customer. They like people.

 

[RoyalCanadian]

It is, of course, impossible to open the aircraft doors while at cruising altitude. It would not be possible for a passenger to accidentally open one of those doors, but I can assure you it's not the first time a passenger has mistaken the aircraft door for the door to the WC.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by RoyalCanadian
It is, of course, impossible to open the aircraft doors while at cruising altitude. It would not be possible for a passenger to accidentally open one of those doors, but I can assure you it's not the first time a passenger has mistaken the aircraft door for the door to the WC.

I do find that absolutely amazing.

 

[wdwstar]

we had three young flight attendants, 2 males and 1
female,

im sorry if my post was not clear, we only had 3 FAs

1 FA in the cockpit with the pilots more then half our flight , NO FA up front during that time period and the other 2 FAs in the back at FA station during our flight, no FAs were walking back and fourth thru the aisle, i didnt expect them to either and i didnt say they should for that matter of fact. i fly a handful of flights every year and actually use to fly southwest years ago. and i have never encountered an unprofessional manners by the FA. Maybe if i told you that the FAs were very young and when they were in our presents at the beginning of our flight the hugging the grabbing of each others fannies, i didnt mention this because my concerns were more of the safety issues.

 

[CarolA]

It worked. You paid attention. You heard the speech.

All too often no one listens.....if humor works.....

The doors to the cockpit can be opened during flight from INSIDE the cockpit. SO walking up and trying to open it won't do anything.

 

[MHopkins2]

Sounds like a good flight to me! FAs with a sense of humour, no screechers, and at least one doodleheaded passenger (the one who missed the "BATHROOM HERE" sign) to giggle at. I just wish SWA flew out of Dayton, because the 90 minute drive to Columbus is a PITA!

 

[TexasTom]

"Worst flight"? Did you arrive at your destination? Didn't you hear when the FA annouce that the flight was no-smoking, no-baby crying and no complaining.

 

[Nebsky]

FA's are not supposed to be inside the cockpit while the plane is in motion except to provide meals/drinks to the pilots.

Spending 1/2 of the flight up there is a definate no-no and is against FAA policy.

Good luck in your letter, but from what it sounds like, you heard and understood the saftey briefing. You might have something with regards to the UM's (unaccompanied minors) but you would need to bring that up with them.

 

[Lewisc]

SW doesn't serve meals, for most of the flight the FA don't do anything.

As other have posted you listened to and remembered the safety spiel. I guess humor works. Did anyone take the FA seriously and try to go out on the wing to smoke?

It's nice you took the time to entertain the 4 year old but if you didn't someone else might have. Really wouldn't have been the end of the world if the 4 year old didn't have a drink and left the candy wrappers on the floor.

The only valid point (IMHO) you made is the FA should have noticed that that the child's seat belt wasn't fastened. If the belt was never fastened the FA was wrong, not sure what the FA could have done if the child unbelted after the final check.

I'm sure SW can find our who the FA's are if you complain.

You're right a 4 year old shouldn't be travelling alone. I suspect a parent lied about the age but you might complain. Might motivate SW to check for proof of age in cases like this.

 

[WDWisTheBest]

While I appreciate your concern for safety, I can't find in your original post anything that addresses safety except that the child didn't have a seat beat buckled for landing.

It was a good catch that you spotted her standing by the window.
However, I don't think you can blame the FAs if the belt was opened after they made the final check for landing.

 

[wdwstar]

how could the FAs have checked for the child seat belt when the female FA just came out of the cockpit and was seatbelting herself in and the other two FA were still in the back of the plane sitting down.

my concerns were the one FA spending more then half the flight(the last part of our flight) in cockpit. it wasnt like she was in and out of the cockpit, she went in and we never seen her again until landing time.

the unattended children(which i did find out southwest doesnt charge extra for children flying alone, like the rest of the airlines)

the humor on the safety rules, unless that is southwest way of teaching everyone the safety rules, then i cant gripe about the humor on safety. i just hope that if a passanger needs to use one of the safety rules that they can remember that joke and at that point its wont be funny anymore.

i just posted to offer my experience with southwest and wondered if anyone else had the same experience with southwest.

but i guess maybe im use to flying other airlines and their etiquette .

webmaster please close this thread,
i dont think anyone has had the same experience and this thread is not a debate and is turning into one

 

[Lewisc]

You asked for others experiences. Most of us have experienced SW's ligher safety lectures. Most of us don't have a problem.

The FA usually spend half the flight doing nothing. Not sure about rules but it doesn't bother me if they spend the time sitting in the back of the plane talking to each other or in the cockpit.

YOU HAVE A VALID point about the 4 year old and the seat belt issue. Since it bothered you enough to post here you really should write a letter to SW. If parents are lying about the kids ages then SW should be checking birth certificates.

Originally posted by wdwstar

i just posted to offer my experience with southwest and wondered if anyone else had the same experience with southwest.

but i guess maybe im use to flying other airlines and their etiquette .

webmaster please close this thread,
i dont think anyone has had the same experience and this thread is not a debate and is turning into one

 

[madge]

we flew SWA this weekend, had light hearted flight attendants and arrived safely in Orlando and Nashville. My only concern for safety was this, and I'm not even sure if it is a valid concern. There was a group of 4 adults sitting in one of the Emergency exit rows. The FA stopped at each of the exits and asked the people sitting in the area if they were comfortable in the exit row, meaning that they would be asked to help people get off the plane, if need be. This group of 4 adults, sitting nearest to us, was clearly not American. The FA asked them the same question as she did the others, and stressed that they needed to be able to speak and understand English. The men in the group said it was "ok" and the women just nodded....clearly, the FA had to make a judgement call and decided to let the people stay where they were seated. There were plenty of English-speaking people on the plane, so I doubt very seriously that it was any issue at all....I just thought I'd throw it out there that on every flight there might be something questionable going on.

we love SWA, we love their attitude, and will continue to fly with them.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by Lewisc
SW doesn't serve meals, for most of the flight the FA don't do anything.

As other have posted you listened to and remembered the safety spiel. I guess humor works. Did anyone take the FA seriously and try to go out on the wing to smoke?

It's nice you took the time to entertain the 4 year old but if you didn't someone else might have. Really wouldn't have been the end of the world if the 4 year old didn't have a drink and left the candy wrappers on the floor.

The only valid point (IMHO) you made is the FA should have noticed that that the child's seat belt wasn't fastened. If the belt was never fastened the FA was wrong, not sure what the FA could have done if the child unbelted after the final check.

I'm sure SW can find our who the FA's are if you complain.


If the FA was still checking seat belts and was close enough to commend the OP for spotting the child that was unbelted, then they had plenty of time before landing to secure the child.
You're right a 4 year old shouldn't be travelling alone. I suspect a parent lied about the age but you might complain. Might motivate SW to check for proof of age in cases like this.

 

[CarolA]

Well if the FAA would back up the flight attendants they might be more likely to push on the exit row issue.

The FAA has shown an ALARMING lack of concern on some issues. For example, if you smoke in the restroom they normally will NOT press charges. I have had Flight Attendants who have just gone ballastic over this. The FAA won't back them up in a fight over the exit row seats either.....

SW does normally ask for proof of age. I have seen them deny boarding to "lap children" since there was no proof of age. They do allow children age 5 and up to be unaccompanied. So maybe the parents lied or maybe the child was 5 (not much difference between 5 and 4)

I am not sure why you think the Webmaster should close the therad. It seems pretty calm right now. (If you want conflict go to the resorts board and read ANYTHING on pool hopping LOL!)

 

[CarolA]

Well if the FAA would back up the flight attendants they might be more likely to push on the exit row issue.

The FAA has shown an ALARMING lack of concern on some issues. For example, if you smoke in the restroom they normally will NOT press charges. I have had Flight Attendants who have just gone ballastic over this. The FAA won't back them up in a fight over the exit row seats either.....

SW does normally ask for proof of age. I have seen them deny boarding to "lap children" since there was no proof of age. They do allow children age 5 and up to be unaccompanied. So maybe the parents lied or maybe the child was 5 (not much difference between 5 and 4)

I am not sure why you think the Webmaster should close the therad. It seems pretty calm right now. (If you want conflict go to the resorts board and read ANYTHING on pool hopping LOL!)

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by wdwstar
how could the FAs have checked for the child seat belt when the female FA just came out of the cockpit and was seatbelting herself in and the other two FA were still in the back of the plane sitting down.

my concerns were the one FA spending more then half the flight(the last part of our flight) in cockpit. it wasnt like she was in and out of the cockpit, she went in and we never seen her again until landing time.

the unattended children(which i did find out southwest doesnt charge extra for children flying alone, like the rest of the airlines)

the humor on the safety rules, unless that is southwest way of teaching everyone the safety rules, then i cant gripe about the humor on safety. i just hope that if a passanger needs to use one of the safety rules that they can remember that joke and at that point its wont be funny anymore.

i just posted to offer my experience with southwest and wondered if anyone else had the same experience with southwest.

but i guess maybe im use to flying other airlines and their etiquette .

webmaster please close this thread,
i dont think anyone has had the same experience and this thread is not a debate and is turning into one

Are you telling me that the FAs did not do a walk through to check for the tray tables and seatbelts? If not, after the final check, how would they know that the child unbelted herself?

What would you have them do with unaccompanied children? They cannot exactly get lost. Read the rules and procedures.
Perhaps they don't charge extra, and the point of this is?
There is absolultely NOTHING wrong with using humor in any venue. If the rules are understood, even with the humor, then the point has been made. should they do it in 17 different languages so everyone will know them?
Other airlines have different policies. Other airlines are not making money, SWA is, so, they must be doing something right.
As to the FAs sitting, if they were available to you if you needed them, what did it matter where they were sitting or what they were doing? It appears you spent a great deal of time minding their business for them rather than enjoying your flight.