Woman sues Disney for implanting a chip in her

[JZCubed]

Oh yes, ahahahha, this person, by no fault of their own, is suffering from an illness that renders them unable to function in society, subject to mockery and abuse, and often times leads to homelessness. And lest we forget the families of those people who spend a lifetime filled with perpetual stress and painful sadness for someone they love who can't recognize they need help because it's real to them. Ahahahhahahah, can't stop laughing...

I hate to see how you act towards cancer patients. And children's hospitals must be real knee slappers.

These attitudes towards mental illness and thinking it's ok to mock and laugh at play a significant role in our inability to properly treat them. But hey, you were born lucky and without this problem, so laugh away.

You know what's funny - adults dressing in clothes typically worn by children, including costumes and hats shaped like mouse ears, while spending great sums of money vacationing.....and creating the free time to blog about it......

Is everyone who acts a bit 'different' suffering an illness?

Is tinfoil around the ankles any less 'normal' than people who invest only in gold and non-perishable food?

Is it normal to agree to a 2-hour wait for a 2-minute ride or photo with a Princess after spending $100?

Should people living in mountain and farm regions far from urban centers not be concerned about terrorist attacks on subways & Monorails?

Is it OK to sleep with a loaded weapon under a pillow?

Is bottled water safer than the water from a faucet?

Can a vaccination harm a child?

Many people have things they do and do not believe that others may or may not consider odd, but it is not all 'illness' - is it?

Some people file lawsuits and make specious claims because their costume was not bright enough, or their ears not big enough - they want to be seen and heard. I'm glad someone is willing to help those who are truly disabled, I admittedly might find it difficult to make a distinction sometimes. We would certainly treat them differently - you want a doctor; I'd offer some cheese, fresh fruit and (spiked) hot tea.

As to your personal finger pointing - I used my MBA to subsequently work for a $100million nonprofit as a grant maker to social service agencies with a focus on community development. Specially, I was the grant officer for public education initiatives. My mother died of cancer and I continue to be an active donor to the medical cause. I have a laundry list of volunteer activities through the years, many for the hungry, but with an early history of working with children in a hospital (where I had spent too much time during my own childhood). Now I'm a stay at home dad caring for a young child while my wife maintains her specialized career more than an hour from our home. I pay/paid my dues.

 

[nilla]

My wife made a joke to me once about the Magic Bands being a Disney mind control device. I replied, "what would they do? Make us spend more money on Disney? I don't really think that's possible."

 

[WillJenDisney]

You know what's funny - adults dressing in clothes typically worn by children, including costumes and hats shaped like mouse ears, while spending great sums of money vacationing.....and creating the free time to blog about it......

Is everyone who acts a bit 'different' suffering an illness?

Is tinfoil around the ankles any less 'normal' than people who invest only in gold and non-perishable food?

Is it normal to agree to a 2-hour wait for a 2-minute ride or photo with a Princess after spending $100?

Should people living in mountain and farm regions far from urban centers not be concerned about terrorist attacks on subways & Monorails?

Is it OK to sleep with a loaded weapon under a pillow?

Is bottled water safer than the water from a faucet?

Can a vaccination harm a child?

Many people have things they do and do not believe that others may or may not consider odd, but it is not all 'illness' - is it?

Some people file lawsuits and make specious claims because their costume was not bright enough, or their ears not big enough - they want to be seen and heard. I'm glad someone is willing to help those who are truly disabled, I admittedly might find it difficult to make a distinction sometimes. We would certainly treat them differently - you want a doctor; I'd offer some cheese, fresh fruit and (spiked) hot tea.

As to your personal finger pointing - I used my MBA to subsequently work for a $100million nonprofit as a grant maker to social service agencies with a focus on community development. Specially, I was the grant officer for public education initiatives. My mother died of cancer and I continue to be an active donor to the medical cause. I have a laundry list of volunteer activities through the years, many for the hungry, but with an early history of working with children in a hospital (where I had spent too much time during my own childhood). Now I'm a stay at home dad caring for a young child while my wife maintains her specialized career more than an hour from our home. I pay/paid my dues.

Sorry, laughing at the mentally ill isn't something you "pay your dues" for the right to do. It's something you never do because of basic human decency.

And comparing people's chosen eccentric interests to unchosen mental illnesses is the height of absurdity.

 

[WillJenDisney]

Has this woman been diagnosed? How do we know that she has a mental illness? Maybe she is just looking for notoriety or maybe a very liberal court that would award her a giant sum of money. As you are accusing other posters on this thread, evaluate your own position in remote diagnosis of this individual. Let us ALL not be too rapid to judge. My wife is disabled and we put up with many "looks" and "sounds of disgust". We know what it is like to be judged. So if she is diagnosed I feel her pain. Until then, let us not assume anything.

It's extraordinarily likely I know exactly what she suffers from based on my experiences. But let's say I'm wrong. You feel the need to attack my assumption when I use it to say let's not mock her, but you used 0 posts to tell those mocking her and laughing that they shouldn't assume she's not mentally ill? So apparently assuming she's not and mocking her is fine, but if I say she's likely ill and it's not funny, you can't bear the assuming. Odd choice of when assumptions bother you.

 

[JZCubed]

Sorry, laughing at the mentally ill isn't something you "pay your dues" for the right to do. It's something you never do because of basic human decency.

And comparing people's chosen eccentric interests to unchosen mental illnesses is the height of absurdity.

Right - acting eccentric does not make a person mentally ill, and yet, you are making a diagnosis and determining if a person is eccentric or ill from a newspaper article.

You've determined the person filing the lawsuit is ill; I'm suggesting the person is wearing a lawsuit as a costume, because the Mickey ears were not big enough.

We can each diagnose this person as we please, because we each have the same amount of inconclusive information.

So here's what we know - when I see tinfoil wrapped ankles, I see eccentric and laugh about it. When you see tinfoil wrapped ankles you see mental illness. My, seems as if you've jumped-the-shark from eccentric to mentally ill at first sight.

I treat everyone the same at first sight, you seem to prefer first determining if a person is eccentric or ill.

Get it - your definition of human decency starts with a diagnosis of mental acuity, mine starts with laughter & refreshments.

So the true height of absurdity is your telling the rest of us how to act (i.e., not denouncing those who find humor in the OP newspaper article), when your own perspective is questionable.

By the way, I never did get your answer(s) - is sleeping with a loaded weapon underneath a pillow illness or eccentric? Similarly, is electing to not vaccinate a child illness or eccentric?

Why is it that you believe you can determine mental acuity versus eccentricity by looking at my tinfoil, but not how a person treats their family?

 

[JZCubed]

Sorry, laughing at the mentally ill isn't something you "pay your dues" for the right to do. It's something you never do because of basic human decency.

And comparing people's chosen eccentric interests to unchosen mental illnesses is the height of absurdity.

If you prefer, paying my dues includes a best friend who suffers from manic depression. I am his ride to the hospital when things get dicey for him.

He is not my only friend who takes medication, my professional mentor is the child of Holocaust survivors and he too suffers as many of these adults do.

And let's just gloss over my residing in Manhattan on September 11, 2001....with a job in the financial district. Post-traumatic stress disorder had many of us spending time dealing with mental illness.

Lastly, too many members of my own family have suffered from extreme depression and I have spent more time hospitals during lengthy stays helping them too.

In no uncertain terms - I have paid my dues not only by how I treat my family and friends who have suffered and continue to suffer with mental illness, but I treat them as people, not patients.

Please, your sanctimony is unbecoming, particularly for a person purporting to have medical knowledge. Your finger pointing is as unprofessional as anything a mental healthcare professional could do.

Maybe if you started treated you patients as people, they'd have better outcomes. By the way, that last statement is as justified as all the barbs you've thrown my way.

 

[Alice Royal]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[WillJenDisney]

I don't see these things from the medical profession, I see them in the legal profession. And of the thousand of meritless cases involving paranoid thoughts such as this I've seen and worked on, 100% have come from people who have had serious psychiatric issues, and this particular type is always schizophrenic. Mentally stable people don't jump through the hoops and pay the costs involved in filing suits like this except it extremely rare instances. But hey, there's a 1 in 10,000 chance it's not mental illness, so let's laugh first and believe that makes the world a happier place and not a place in which the mentally ill are all too often neglected or refuse to get treatment because of the stigma so clearly attached by those who laugh. When 99.9% of these instances are because of mental illness, is it better to start there, or is it better to laugh at the person in the hopes it's the 0.1% instead.

And from a personal perspective, I've seen my father-in-law suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, and I've seen what it's done to my wife having to deal with it. So I've seen first hand how the stigma surrounding mental illnesses like his have impacted him and his refusal to get treatment. I've also represented plenty of mentally ill people on a volunteer basis and seen countless examples of how it's destroyed their lives and affecting their families deeply. I can't help but react so angrily then when I see mental illness just laughed at and mocked. Look through the early posts, just plenty of "loony bin" type talk. Would anyone dare say that stuff about cancer patients? Why is it so ok to mock and laugh at something that causes so much pain, ruins so many lives and subjects so many to prison and homelessness?

I've said enough, I'll stop the back and forth now.

 

[WillJenDisney]

I know I said I'd stop, but one last thing: I accept that your laughter isn't coming from a bad place and you aren't a bad person for it, I'm just saying that regardless of why mentally ill are laughed at, when those people see society as a whole laugh at it and mock it, it really affects people's willingness to get help rather than hide in the shadows in shame. And it only adds to the anxiety and shame of family members as well, which then causes guilt and on and on. It's a vicious cycle that starts with that laughter, no matter how good-natured your own personal laughs may be.

 

[ParrotBill]

As the OP I did not intend for the discussion to go this direction... sorry to those of you offended. I meant only to show how Disney and MagicBands continue to be targets of distrust. If I am laughing at anyone, it's the legal system for allowing anything of this kind to continue. At least no lawyer is taking advantage of this person.

 

[JZCubed]

I know I said I'd stop, but one last thing: I accept that your laughter isn't coming from a bad place and you aren't a bad person for it, I'm just saying that regardless of why mentally ill are laughed at, when those people see society as a whole laugh at it and mock it, it really affects people's willingness to get help rather than hide in the shadows in shame. And it only adds to the anxiety and shame of family members as well, which then causes guilt and on and on. It's a vicious cycle that starts with that laughter, no matter how good-natured your own personal laughs may be.

I find irony about a conversation of this nature being held on a site devoted to amusement Parks where someone is also suggesting that laughter lacks seriousness, is inherently disrespectful, and/or is somehow damaging or detrimental to another person's mental health.

If electronic devices are to be turned-off when flying in an airplane because of the possibility of electronic disturbances, is tinfoil around a persons ankles based on a modicum of information and an example of an abundance of caution - or is tinfoil a sign of mental illness?

Similarly, is choosing to not have a cellphone or having a modem in your home an example of illness or an abundance of caution?

Similarly, not vaccinating a child - illness or abundance or caution? Does the opinion change when seen through a lens of: Is not vaccinating a child depraved indifference to others?

Is it illness or an abundance of caution when a person sleeps with a loaded weapon under their pillow?

Why is the tinfoil an example of mental illness any more than people who believe God to be an old white man sitting on a throne beyond the stars and sky and that His son walked on water and will be returning to 'Save' us sometime soon?

The tinfoil is far more sane to me than religion. For the record - I believe in God....but not as an old white man sitting on a throne beyond the sky and stars.

Tinfoil is no more an example of illness to me than a adult choosing to wear a vest covered with pins while traipsing about their 15-mile adventure through a Disney park day in the heat of Florida. Tinfoil is no more an example of illness to me than people willing to encourage and accept standing in-line for 2-hours with a young child to meet a person in a costume. These events are all laughable.

Oh my goodness - I hope my telling you there are people in costumes at the end of the queues at Disney has not shattered your belief system. Why would my laughing at tinfoil be a cause to shatter an image by someone who believes they are being protected from gamma rays by wearing tinfoil be any worse than telling you the Tooth Fairy does not exist, or for that matter - does exist?

I'm sorry if you find that my treating people as people and with laughter as somehow being disrespectful. Maybe the next time I see someone wearing a great t-shirt or hat I'll assume they are mentally ill and not offer anything nice to say, but just keep my pleasant thoughts to myself and be certain not even to smile for fear I may be triggering an adverse reaction in the stranger.

The vicious cycle comes from treating too many people as if they have an illness when we just happen to find their eccentricities stepping outside our personal norms.

It becomes a vicious cycle when too many people are being seen as patients and subsequently suffer a lifetime of addiction to pills and therapies because so-called professionals believe everyone has a mental defect that can be treated with pills and therapies (that enrich the so-called professionals).

Yes, there are many people who are mentally ill, but few have the capacity to matriculate with the crowds at a Disney Park and few have the capacity to not only file a lawsuit, but get the matter reported by the mainstream media.

Finally - since I believe in God and miracles....the microchip this person feels may be mental illness, but it may also be an undiagnosed illness. The incomparable Joni Mitchell suffers from Morgellons disease. Is her illness real or mental illness?

By the way, Lyme Disease had similar medical treatment to Morgellons.....until Lyme Disease could be detected.

Similarly, Vincent Van Gogh may not have cut-off his ear or thought himself to be crazy had there been a medical diagnosis for tinnitus.

In the end, laughter is medicine, even to people with mental illnesses. Unfortunately, folks like you believe people are being laughed-at, not being encouraged to laugh-with those of us who are mentally fit.

Mental illness is serious, but that does not mean people with mental illnesses should not be encouraged to laugh - even at themselves and along with others.

 

[JZCubed]

Right - acting eccentric does not make a person mentally ill, and yet, you are making a diagnosis and determining if a person is eccentric or ill from a newspaper article.

You've determined the person filing the lawsuit is ill; I'm suggesting the person is wearing a lawsuit as a costume, because the Mickey ears were not big enough.

We can each diagnose this person as we please, because we each have the same amount of inconclusive information.

So here's what we know - when I see tinfoil wrapped ankles, I see eccentric and laugh about it. When you see tinfoil wrapped ankles you see mental illness. My, seems as if you've jumped-the-shark from eccentric to mentally ill at first sight.

I treat everyone the same at first sight, you seem to prefer first determining if a person is eccentric or ill.

Get it - your definition of human decency starts with a diagnosis of mental acuity, mine starts with laughter & refreshments.

So the true height of absurdity is your telling the rest of us how to act (i.e., not denouncing those who find humor in the OP newspaper article), when your own perspective is questionable.

By the way, I never did get your answer(s) - is sleeping with a loaded weapon underneath a pillow illness or eccentric? Similarly, is electing to not vaccinate a child illness or eccentric?

Why is it that you believe you can determine mental acuity versus eccentricity by looking at my tinfoil, but not how a person treats their family?

Moreover, does your moral indignation extend to people who spend $20 on a pair of ears they will throw away instead of using the money to helping the homeless? We can all certainly spend less than $50 on steak and $70 on lobster to have more money to feed the hungry. Isn't conspicuous consumption, like spending a small fortune at Disney or on expensive shoes and handbags, just another form of laughing at those less fortunate?