Wk Of Aug 26 - WISH Walking/Running Club

[Pungodingy]

I have a food question...

Now that my mileage is starting to get "up there", I am finding that I am VERY hungry while run/walking...I eat something before I head out, and carry water and a gel, but still feel so hungry..my stomach was even growling on Saturday! I tried eating more before going out, but then felt sick and moved much slower. So, any suggestions on what to eat before to keep me from being so hungry, or ideas of what to carry with me? I'm only up to 7 miles, and afraid that by 13 I'll have chewed up my shirt!

Thanks!

 

[KeenHo]

Hi everyone! Yes, Cam and I are still alive and well. Thanks for missing us. Sorry for the lack of presence here.

We did get out to the state park yesterday morning, early, for a run. I went a total of 6 miles, running 4 and walking 2. I finished in about 1:10. My splits ranged from 8:15 to 10:14 running and in the 15-16's walking. I felt good, but it was a steam bath out there.

Things are about to get "nutso" (a technical term) for me beginning tomorrow. My classes begin tomorrow evening. I have classes M-Th from 6 PM to 8:45 PM. I will also be working 20 hours a week at the Blood Bank of Delmarva where I've been full-time all summer. (Terri ~ you are right, full-time classes (4) and work, and studying, and team projects, and exams, mid-terms, finals.... it is all very HELLish.) I take solice in that fact that I only have two semesters to go to attain my MBA. Whoo Hoo! However my work is cut out for me.

I am signed up for the ToT 13k and for the Goofy in January. I will do all that is humanly possible to fit training into the mix of work, school, studying, and being an active and vital part of our family unit. This past fall, I did very little in most of those regards unfortunately. I ended up running the Goofy with about 9 substantive training days before the actual event (after my finals ended). My LR in training for the Goofy was 13.8 miles. Don't try this at home kids.

I will post when I have time and probably lurk to keep or hold on to whatever sanity I might have left as time goes on. Please know you are all in my thoughts. Train hard, have fun and hydrate. I will see some of you in WDW for the ToT, I can't wait!

Happy training!



Howard

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I have a food question...

Now that my mileage is starting to get "up there", I am finding that I am VERY hungry while run/walking...I eat something before I head out, and carry water and a gel, but still feel so hungry..my stomach was even growling on Saturday! I tried eating more before going out, but then felt sick and moved much slower. So, any suggestions on what to eat before to keep me from being so hungry, or ideas of what to carry with me? I'm only up to 7 miles, and afraid that by 13 I'll have chewed up my shirt!

Thanks!

This is what has been suggested to my team by coaches and nutritionists.

Only in extreme cases should you not eat before (we had 1 person who would get literally sick to their stomach to near vomiting--so they stopped and were fine when they did that).

You have to train to eat before. So starting now is good. I've been having a banana and I do get a touch whoozy from doing so. But eventually you will work your way through it.

You also want to make sure for the long runs--that what you eventually decide on--is something you can replicate on event day.

In years past--I have done a whole wheat bagle about an hour or two before a run....

Yes if you wake up early, you are thinking...WHAT???

But you can wake up--eat--then go back to bed at training time.

So some of your "feeling sick" could be from eating it too close to the run.

I usually do a whole wheat something (english muffin, toast--but prefer that bagel) and a fruit.

You will be famished on race day if you don't eat something prior to heading out.

For a full--it is a good idea, to work snacks in addition to the energy whatevers you are consuming.

Our coaches put out animal cookies for us. On the 20 mile day we had orange slices...bananas at the end are good as well. (crucial to try and ingest one on race day to replenish potassium--they made me eat it when I was ready to vomit when I had the flu...but not that I could feel any worse..to not eat it could have made my crappy day turn into a real emergency).


The whole eating while exercising and before exercise stuff sounds so contraindicated--but for endurance athletes....it is a MUST DO!

 

[KelNottAt]

I have a food question...

Now that my mileage is starting to get "up there", I am finding that I am VERY hungry while run/walking...I eat something before I head out, and carry water and a gel, but still feel so hungry..my stomach was even growling on Saturday! I tried eating more before going out, but then felt sick and moved much slower. So, any suggestions on what to eat before to keep me from being so hungry, or ideas of what to carry with me? I'm only up to 7 miles, and afraid that by 13 I'll have chewed up my shirt!

Thanks!

Angie, I am in no way an endurance nutrition expert. In fact, just the opposite is true. I've read what Galloway and Bingham say about eating during training and it just doesn't work for me. So be very cautious about following my example. This is what I do for long walks (10+ miles):

One peanut butter sandwich and 20 oz Gatorade at least an hour before starting. (No dairy or white bread)
Carry 3 oz of water for every mile of the course, but I may or may not drink that much; depends on weather, how I'm feeling, etc. (I forget where I got that ratio, but it's based on my weight. Your requirement may be more or less.)
One Gu at mile 5, then every 4th mile thereafter (9, 13, 17...)
Potato chips at 15 or 16; maybe 12 oz Gatorade
Banana and maybe more chips at the end, followed by a nice healthy sandwich within 90 minutes of finishing.

I dehydrate really easily (hospitalized 6x). So something in my physiology may be why my needs don't really fit the experts recommendations. It took me a long time to find the food/drink balance that worked. Try starting with what one of the experts says then tweaking it for your comfort. It's pretty much trial and error, I'm afraid.

Good luck.

 

[andromedaslove]

I have a food question...

Now that my mileage is starting to get "up there", I am finding that I am VERY hungry while run/walking...I eat something before I head out, and carry water and a gel, but still feel so hungry..my stomach was even growling on Saturday! I tried eating more before going out, but then felt sick and moved much slower. So, any suggestions on what to eat before to keep me from being so hungry, or ideas of what to carry with me? I'm only up to 7 miles, and afraid that by 13 I'll have chewed up my shirt!

Thanks!

I know that during the full last year they gave out bananas, oragnes, gus, chocolate candy bars, and those daggum muffins that almost killed me. I keep trying to figure out a way to carry those things with me (minus the muffin) while I train so that my body is prepared for it come race day, but unless I wanna wear a back pack or train with my jogging stroller I have no where to carry all of this stuff. During training last year the only thing I took with me were my water bottle and my gus. I still haven't figured out what to do this year, but I am REALLY starting to dislike the gus. I want real food darn it!!

Dana

 

[HMHunters]

Happy Monday, WISHers!

It is a bittersweet day for me as DD started high school. I'm excited for her but sad she's growing up so quickly! Of course this morning was nuts with DS nearly missing his bus and forgetting his lunch. So I've already made one run to school. Hope that isn't an indication of what the whole year is going to be like!

After all the chaos and running around I wasn't able to start my run until 9:20. It was pretty hot so I tried to stay on shady streets, which meant running through some hilly neighborhoods. I was scheduled for a 40 minute run but ended up doing 44:29 (just because I wasn't back to my car yet!) I'm not sure how far it was, but I was trying to take a nice, slow pace.

Renee: how long does it take you to get to Shelley lake? We're in WF and sometimes it takes 40-45 minutes to get there. I have never seen the guy on stilts and I have no idea how to get to the Crabtree trail. Is it through that little underpass that goes underneath near the parking lot?

It takes me 20-25 minutes going down Falls of Neuse (not during rush hour, of course!) I don't know any of the trails that branch off; I stick to just circling (and circling and circling) the lake. However, once my runs start getting long I may experiment a bit to ease the boredom.

Mel - I also have fused several plans together. I'm very happy with my plan!
Jackie - PD for your ankle!! DD and DS both got their soccer games in. DS got a complete game in before the storms; DD made it to half-time before it was called for lightning, so it counts. 2 wins - yay!
Kristin - I hate carrying things, so I usually set down my drink somewhere and run by it. Works very well for me.
Jen - Welcome back to the real world! Can't wait to hear about the trip!
Kelley - My friend who is an elite triathlete totally believes in running the full distance during training - she would cheer for your plan.
moon - I too am trying to slow down my pace! It is a lot harder than it sounds.
Vic - Definitely time to move outside. I ran outside today even though it was humid.
Kim - WTG on the 12K! (I had to mentally convert that to figure it out! 5K = 3.1, 10K = 6.2, ....)
Beth - WTG on the 18 miler! Whew!
Christie - Nice ride! My friend is trying to convince me to bike, but bikes are so darned expensive!
patBill - PD for the back!
plutodx - Welcome!
Lisa - Let's see - baby + homeschool + DH out of town + training =
WWDave & Erica - Good luck with the "official" Goofy training!
Stephanie - Those spider bites sound nasty! Are you sure that's what they are? DS had a bump on his leg that hurt and looked like a bite, but turned out to be a staph infection.
Nancy - Good luck with the 20 week plan! Those long distances out there scare me to death!
Judy - Congrats on your first post-surgery LR!!
Leana - WTG with a 12 miler!
Dana - It is amazing how we have to squeeze in our running around everything else going on.
Tricia - Here's some PD for motivation!
Angie - I find a Clif bar really gets me through a run without upsetting my stomach at all.

Happy training, all!
Renee

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Angie, I am in no way an endurance nutrition expert. In fact, just the opposite is true. I've read what Galloway and Bingham say about eating during training and it just doesn't work for me. So be very cautious about following my example. This is what I do for long walks (10+ miles):

One peanut butter sandwich and 20 oz Gatorade at least an hour before starting. (No dairy or white bread)
Carry 3 oz of water for every mile of the course, but I may or may not drink that much; depends on weather, how I'm feeling, etc. (I forget where I got that ratio, but it's based on my weight. Your requirement may be more or less.)
One Gu at mile 5, then every 4th mile thereafter (9, 13, 17...)
Potato chips at 15 or 16; maybe 12 oz Gatorade
Banana and maybe more chips at the end, followed by a nice healthy sandwich within 90 minutes of finishing.

I dehydrate really easily (hospitalized 6x). So something in my physiology may be why my needs don't really fit the experts recommendations. It took me a long time to find the food/drink balance that worked. Try starting with what one of the experts says then tweaking it for your comfort. It's pretty much trial and error, I'm afraid.

Good luck.

This actually sounds REALLY good!

the reason for the potato chips?
CARB and SALT!!!!

I do a salt packet on mile 20 day and during race day instead. But chips sound better.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I know that during the full last year they gave out bananas, oragnes, gus, chocolate candy bars, and those daggum muffins that almost killed me. I keep trying to figure out a way to carry those things with me (minus the muffin) while I train so that my body is prepared for it come race day, but unless I wanna wear a back pack or train with my jogging stroller I have no where to carry all of this stuff. During training last year the only thing I took with me were my water bottle and my gus. I still haven't figured out what to do this year, but I am REALLY starting to dislike the gus. I want real food darn it!!

Dana

Have you incorporated a route that goes by your house or if you drive somewhere to run, then back to your car?

We will be doing that this year with our house. We can get a good 6-8 mile lap....and then just go by our house for the major snackies!

Renee: about sums up where I am at right now. Baby has been the most cooperative today. Late start to homeschool day = b/c the girls just want to play. Tomorrow I am doing a rest day so should be more on target.

 

[TnTsParty]

I was just going to ask where everyone was storing all this food for their long runs. But if you keep it in your car or your house and run past there on those miles then that makes sense. Couldn't see lugging a backpack with potato chips, gatorade, etc, etc with me on a run!! LOL

 

[Honeibee]

I was just going to ask where everyone was storing all this food for their long runs. But if you keep it in your car or your house and run past there on those miles then that makes sense. Couldn't see lugging a backpack with potato chips, gatorade, etc, etc with me on a run!! LOL

Once I tried putting an aggplant parm wedge in my AmphiPod...

 

[Lexxiefern]

Hey WISH team! Things have been so crazy for me, but I wanted to pop over to say hi and check in. I have my first half marathon on monday at disneyland and I am so excited! I did my last LR on friday of 12 miles with an average pace of 12:04. But my knees are very sore now. I was going to run this morning, but thought I would give them another day. Any advice?

I am bringing my laptop to DL so I will try to check in and give a report after my race on monday.


Becky

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Once I tried putting an aggplant parm wedge in my AmphiPod...

Did you drink giggle juice today? You are on a roll!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Hey WISH team! Things have been so crazy for me, but I wanted to pop over to say hi and check in. I have my first half marathon on monday at disneyland and I am so excited! I did my last LR on friday of 12 miles with an average pace of 12:04. But my knees are very sore now. I was going to run this morning, but thought I would give them another day. Any advice?

I am bringing my laptop to DL so I will try to check in and give a report after my race on monday.


Becky

IF they are sore, I wouldn't do a workout. If you didn't do a workout this week--it would NOT hurt you at all. But if you run when you shouldn't--it could hurt you.

If you have access to an elliptical trainer or a bike or exercise bike, I would do that instead if you really want to get a workout in.

Sore joints isn't a good thing if you haven't had an ongoing issue.

 

[Lexxiefern]

IF they are sore, I wouldn't do a workout. If you didn't do a workout this week--it would NOT hurt you at all. But if you run when you shouldn't--it could hurt you.

If you have access to an elliptical trainer or a bike or exercise bike, I would do that instead if you really want to get a workout in.

Sore joints isn't a good thing if you haven't had an ongoing issue.

I hadn't had any problems with them until 2 weeks ago when I did 10 miles. They were sore for 3 days after - worse than this week. I am definately worried about getting an injury so close to my race.

Btw, I love the pic in your sig. Your children are sooo cute!!

Becky

 

[HMHunters]

Becky -

When DD had sore knees, her dr told her to ice them 20 minutes before exercising and 20 minutes after.

Good luck with the half!

 

[KelNottAt]

I was just going to ask where everyone was storing all this food for their long runs. But if you keep it in your car or your house and run past there on those miles then that makes sense. Couldn't see lugging a backpack with potato chips, gatorade, etc, etc with me on a run!! LOL

On Friday nights before my Saturday morning LWs, I drive my route and place the provisions (8 oz bottle of water or banana or chips, etc) at 3 mile intervals. I usually use fire hydrants or utility boxes as my locations.

Usually I stick a label on each item that says something like:
8/25/07
Please do not take this bottle.
It is a marathon training water stop.
The athlete will leave no litter.
Please leave her hydration. Thank you.

When I use the labels, nothing has been stolen. The day I didn't have time to make labels my mile 6 and 12 water were stolen from a 15 mile course. (I carry one spare 8 oz bottle in my pocket for this kind of emergency.)

I've been lucky that I don't end up carrying 4, 5 or 6 empty bottles all the way home. When I pass people in their yards I ask them to take my trash. They're happy to do it. Thank goodness.

 

[Jen117]

Hey Team - Yes I am definately back in the real world, tho with all the crap in my life right now I would much prefer being in FantasyLand!!!!!!!!!!!!

My DD6 started school today, first grade. If you all remember my saga, we switched schools and daycare starting today. Oh wow, I was in tears. DD6 goes to daycare and then gets on the bus there since she is not old enough to stay home alone and get on the bus by herself. So we go into the new daycare and instant bad feeling. The director was out on a family emergency and the person there in the morning was rude and had no clue who we were. DD6 was so scared because of how we were "welcomed". Not cool at all. So when I finally let my girls stay there, I was instantly on the phone with the bus company since the daycare didn't know anything about her being there for before school care and when the bus would come. I got it all straightened out and called the daycare to "inform" them. Then later in the morning I called to talk to the assistant director and make sure everything was OK with my kids and tell her that we didn't feel good about the drop off on our first day. So not cool in my book!

So anyhoo.... YIKES i am supposed to start marathon training this week. I am so incredibly scared about this full marathon... like sick to my stomach scared about what I got myself into. I need to focus and just get at it. My TM and I will be getting quite personal over the next 20 weeks, I just hope it can hold up. I broke it last fall with all my 1/2 marathon training!

Judy - You were flying on that last mile. Hold her back Betsy so you don't hurt your "new" foot!!!!!

Dana - I am not sure if all classes do a home visit, but DD is in 1st grade and we are new to this school. I think it is kind of nice that the teachers try to meet the parents. And her class isn't that big, I think around 15 kids.

Howard - I toyed with the idea of getting my MBA, but man, it sure takes a toll on your life. Congrats on only 2 semesters left!!!!

OH... All you CDC'ers out there. I have a convention in Chicago in January and they sent out a postcard that I got today. Well it is a pic of downtown where all the bridges are.... I had to point out that I ran over THAT ONE!!! Ohhhhh.... better yet, in WDW I kept telling DH that "I ran on this road" and drove him nuts for the whole week!!! It was great fun!

Have a great day all!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I hadn't had any problems with them until 2 weeks ago when I did 10 miles. They were sore for 3 days after - worse than this week. I am definately worried about getting an injury so close to my race.

Btw, I love the pic in your sig. Your children are sooo cute!!

Becky

Thanks!


NOTHING you do this week will make you any more ready for the Disney half.

I would recommend cross train in lieu of run--or WALK easy for the equivilant time of the run if you have any taper-energy that you must burn.

Make sure to ice this week.

What kind of pain are you feeling?

Any popping?

Does the outer part of your thigh (IT Band) feel tight. If it does, you might try massaging that (it will hurt--the nature of an IT band the little beast!)

Is it just achy!

Remember--NO RUN THIS WEEK WILL PREPARE YOU ANYMORE THAN YOU ALREADY ARE FOR THE DL HALF!!!! It is your cumulative training that gets you through it.

 

[Honeibee]

Jen.... .... no panicking. Relax. You can do this. Come on, this is fun, remember? We are here for you. Every single step (and I mean that literally) of the way.

 

[sassparillo]

I want to join! klh-or (Karla) motivated me to begin walking training for the WDW half marathon so I've been working on it since February. I've always wanted to walk a long distance event and now I have company to push me along. She also referred me to this board and to join the club!

My longest walk was this last Sunday--5 miles in 90 minutes. I've been following the Weight Watchers half marathon walking program which has us walking 5 days a week and building up our distances. I'm going to switch to a 3/3/3/lsd program after this week, and do more intervals on my shorter days.

Getting excited/scared for this!