Will AP's be blacked out when new attractions open?

[joelkfla]

Local news reported that one of Disney's latest surveys asked AP holders whether they would continue to buy AP's if they were blacked out for the 1st few weeks after a new attraction or show opened.

Disney responded with the usual, "Maybe we will, maybe we won't."

 

[yulilin3]

I was surprised to see this on the news yesterday. The ap survey has been going on for about 2 months now and they just decided to report on it.

 

[BigAlsGal]

They better not!! Lol

 

[MakiraMarlena]

I would just plan to visit past the first few weeks if they did.

I don't want to be there at opening, it'd be crazy. I know there are others who would like to be there opening day.

However, it does seem like a jerk move, excluding all AP holders. Do they mean blacked out for all 4 parks, or just the park with the new attraction/show?

 

[BigAlsGal]

I think they couldn't implement anything like this until they get an accurate opening date. For example Rivers of light. They've pushed that back and back. You can't expect people to plan 6 months in advance and then punish them because the project got pushed back into your arrival dates.

The logistics of it would be a nightmare.

 

[wilkeliza]

I think we'll see a new level of AP especially for locals. It'll be Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Platinum plus. So Bronze will have the most black out dates including when attractions first release or may have different black out dates for different parks (weekends, new attraction releases for a month at that park, summer, christmas, spring break, no Photopass, and no free parking) and cost what Silver currently does. Silver will be whatever it is now (summer then spring break and Christmas, no photopass and no free parking) and cost what Gold currently does, Gold will have summer and Christmas blacked out (includes photopass and parking) and cost what Platinum does, Platinum will maintain having access to the 4 parks and no black outs but will cost what Platinum plus does now. The Platinum plus will go up and include access to water parks, golf, etc.

Just my theory nothing to really back it up.

 

[wilkeliza]

I think they couldn't implement anything like this until they get an accurate opening date. For example Rivers of light. They've pushed that back and back. You can't expect people to plan 6 months in advance and then punish them because the project got pushed back into your arrival dates.

The logistics of it would be a nightmare.

I imagine it will be Florida Resident APs that are affected not the APs that can be bought by others. They often assume AP holders do not need 6 months to plan and I believe those with blackouts do state blackout dates are subject to change.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

true, it would only work with more notice than they'd likely be willing to give, or for locals who hadn't arranged flights and accommodations. Makes it tough.

There's the added complication of the Gold pass being available to DVC members who are not necessarily Florida residents. So would possibly apply to Silver passes, Weekday Select and any other options available only to Florida residents.

 

[yulilin3]

I would just plan to visit past the first few weeks if they did.

I don't want to be there at opening, it'd be crazy. I know there are others who would like to be there opening day.

However, it does seem like a jerk move, excluding all AP holders. Do they mean blacked out for all 4 parks, or just the park with the new attraction/show?

In my best Hans voice "I like crazy"

 

[BigAlsGal]

I imagine it will be Florida Resident APs that are affected not the APs that can be bought by others. They often assume AP holders do not need 6 months to plan and I believe those with blackouts do state blackout dates are subject to change.

That would make more sense. I live 1000 miles away and I'd be piffed if they told me I came during a blackout.

 

[HopperFan]

OLD NEWS - so not new as the newspaper and blogger who put it out there. As yulilin3 stated it's been out there for a while since the surveys hit a couple months ago.

I'm still waiting to use my Room TV as a computer, in room video games, my bathroom scales, my robe/slipper sat the moderates, Magic Kingdom Character Nights, All inclusive packages, Resort fees, Disney style uber ..................

Disney is always surveying and exploring. Finding out how your guests and AP holders etc etc feel about different things is how you mold your product. No one should be shouting out that this is happening.

And seriously how in the world would they implement this? They can't even figure out how to block folks with no park ticket getting FP+ at kiosks (even though Six Flags has the software).

So what, I buy a pass but every time they finally get a ride open, my pass doesn't work for two months ..... and so what do they do, send me a text? is my whole vacation then go in to auto delay or get cancelled? So look at DHS. Rides may open staggered, at least lands. So my pass may not work for half the year as it gets rolling?

Sounds like these folks were hitting the moose juice when they came up with this one. Or maybe it will just be a newer cheaper flex-pass that is charged by the month, the months you suddenly can't go you aren't charged. Be good for locals but no one else. No way it works on any of the passes they offer now.

QUESTION: WHO is actually getting this survey? We are APs, a couple different kinds of them right now. None of us got it. So I am wondering if they fine-tuned the recepients to just those with Orlando zip codes? Be interesting to see who is getting this.

 

[AngiTN]

OLD NEWS - so not new as the newspaper and blogger who put it out there. As yulilin3 stated it's been out there for a while since the surveys hit a couple months ago.

I'm still waiting to use my Room TV as a computer, in room video games, my bathroom scales, my robe/slipper sat the moderates, Magic Kingdom Character Nights, All inclusive packages, Resort fees, Disney style uber ..................

Disney is always surveying and exploring. Finding out how your guests and AP holders etc etc feel about different things is how you mold your product. No one should be shouting out that this is happening.

And seriously how in the world would they implement this? They can't even figure out how to block folks with no park ticket getting FP+ at kiosks (even though Six Flags has the software).

So what, I buy a pass but every time they finally get a ride open, my pass doesn't work for two months ..... and so what do they do, send me a text? is my whole vacation then go in to auto delay or get cancelled? So look at DHS. Rides may open staggered, at least lands. So my pass may not work for half the year as it gets rolling?

Sounds like these folks were hitting the moose juice when they came up with this one. Or maybe it will just be a newer cheaper flex-pass that is charged by the month, the months you suddenly can't go you aren't charged. Be good for locals but no one else. No way it works on any of the passes they offer now.

QUESTION: WHO is actually getting this survey? We are APs, a couple different kinds of them right now. None of us got it. So I am wondering if they fine-tuned the recepients to just those with Orlando zip codes? Be interesting to see who is getting this.

I've said that same thing every time one of these survey's come out and people start to jump to the conclusion that it's a done deal. People love to make much ado about nothing. Surely there is enough real things in the world to worry about without worrying about survey questions that may or may not come about.

 

[Jennasis]

It's a stupid idea that would be a nightmare to implement.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

yeah, haven't seen resort fees yet either.

 

[AngiTN]

yeah, haven't seen resort fees yet either.

Or their dropping Visa, or Mastercard, or AmEx, or whatever card you click that you used on your vacation.
We've used all 3 and our question always reads "if we no longer took X what would you do" with X being what we used.
We all know they are not going to stop taking any of those credit cards. And I don't believe the placement of the question is because they are even thinking about it

 

[Accident]

I was surprised to see this on the news yesterday. The ap survey has been going on for about 2 months now and they just decided to report on it.

It's more like 6 months, that survey went out earlier in the year as well.

It's a stupid idea that would be a nightmare to implement.

that's my thought, they would need more scanners at every ride entrance (well at least the new ones I guess.)

 

[MakiraMarlena]

If they're thinking about it, then what they are thinking about is probably something like, Pandora is set to open, they want to block APs from entry to AK for 3 weeks after the opening.

Which is still ridiculous. It'd be a mess to try and block all APs for that long and impossible without sufficient notice.

 

[wilkeliza]

If they're thinking about it, then what they are thinking about is probably something like, Pandora is set to open, they want to block APs from entry to AK for 3 weeks after the opening.

Which is still ridiculous. It'd be a mess to try and block all APs for that long and impossible without sufficient notice.

They would loose a ton of money if it was all APs. Sorry I spent about 800 for my Platinum AP. I'm not paying that and thus doing multiple trips a year if you are going to black me out from rides or days. Heck I may start going to DL if WDW was to do something that stupid. I don't mind paying more to have unlimited access but if I'm paying top dollar then there should be no restrictions.

 

[HopperFan]

It's more like 6 months, that survey went out earlier in the year as well.

that's my thought, they would need more scanners at every ride entrance (well at least the new ones I guess.)

The survey did not imply you would be blocked from rides but rather blocked from the park completely.

Even if it were just rides can you imagine everyone in standby having to scan and then the subsequent fights.

I think they missed a question ---

"I would buy a pass that would block me from parks for 2 months after....."

Because this would have to be a known fact prior to even buying the pass, not a post purchase question.

 

[HopperFan]

PS - Disney does not use the term blacked-out ............ they call it blocked-out.