Why has resort pricing gotten so complicated??????

[cindyfan]

SO FRUSTRATING!!!
Why has resort pricing gotten so complicated??? Every single resort has different prices for every day of the week! Every week of the year!!!!
I miss the days of simple..... delux, moderate, value..... value, regular, peak or holiday!!
If it's a moderate.... then keep them all moderate prices!!
Why do they have to have a price difference between resorts like Port Orleans Riverside vs. French Quarter!!!!
Has Disney really gotten so GREEDY that they have to pick apart every little thing and then add money for it!!!???? What's their reasoning??? ...... OH, ummmmm, Riverside has 2 more trees than French Quarter so lets charge $10 a day more?!!!!

It's gotten ridiculous!!!

 

[Dug720]

Regarding POR and POFQ it is supply and demand. POFQ has fewer rooms, so that resort tends to sell out first.

It sounds like Disney is going to what most other hotels use which is a supply and demand pricing structure. There is rack rate, and there are discounts - but the lower prices are based on availability as well as time of year. The less availability and the busier the time of year, the higher the prices will go until you hit rack rate. Under that structure, the POR/POFQ thing makes total sense - fewer rooms at a resort where the rooms tend to sell more quickly anyway (I don't see why, but I'm in the minority on that), the prices will be higher.

There are also the TYPES of rooms - preferred, water view, garden view, etc. If those are merely requests, you end up with a LOT of upset people who requested various things for various reasons and didn't get them. By making them bookable categories, you give people the opportunity to book what they want - and fewer people are upset (and those that are, well, you waited too late). And since there are fewer rooms that meet those categories, the price will naturally be higher. It's pretty basic. And Disney is NOT the only place that has room categories. Heck, even Hampton Inns have room categories with differing prices.

 

[KonaKaiTom]

SO FRUSTRATING!!!
Why has resort pricing gotten so complicated??? Every single resort has different prices for every day of the week! Every week of the year!!!!
I miss the days of simple..... delux, moderate, value..... value, regular, peak or holiday!!
If it's a moderate.... then keep them all moderate prices!!
Why do they have to have a price difference between resorts like Port Orleans Riverside vs. French Quarter!!!!
Has Disney really gotten so GREEDY that they have to pick apart every little thing and then add money for it!!!???? What's their reasoning??? ...... OH, ummmmm, Riverside has 2 more trees than French Quarter so lets charge $10 a day more?!!!!

It's gotten ridiculous!!!

So I assume that you haven't seen the latest and greatest ADDITIONAL thing you can buy. Wait for it, $125 for a 1 day admission to the MK isn't enough, adding on another $55 for a park hopper isn't enough either, for an additional $69 you can get in at 745 and ride 7ddm, PP and WP AND get breakfast at the Pinocchio Village Haus. So, let's do the math on that - yes, it is under $250 per person...by a dollar.

Tom

 

[mousefan73]

You forgot to add in the "premium parking" if that comes. Even if you pay more to be the first, you pay to park close

 

[Jadyreen1282]

Just book and go. If you can't afford the bottomine then save for when you can. It's not really that complicated...who am I kidding.

 

[Hopefully]

SO FRUSTRATING!!!
Why has resort pricing gotten so complicated??? Every single resort has different prices for every day of the week! Every week of the year!!!!
I miss the days of simple..... delux, moderate, value..... value, regular, peak or holiday!!
If it's a moderate.... then keep them all moderate prices!!
Why do they have to have a price difference between resorts like Port Orleans Riverside vs. French Quarter!!!!
Has Disney really gotten so GREEDY that they have to pick apart every little thing and then add money for it!!!???? What's their reasoning??? ...... OH, ummmmm, Riverside has 2 more trees than French Quarter so lets charge $10 a day more?!!!!

It's gotten ridiculous!!!

It seems you must not book lots of hotel rooms other than Disney. What you describe is Hospitality Industry standard, not Disney Greed. Not everything is Disney being greedy.
When we travel to see our Grandkids, the very same Courtyard by Marriott has different pricing by weekday vs weekend, by Season etc. And it has for years. The Marriott Residence Inn around the corner also has varying rates, sometimes more sometimes less than the Courtyard. This would be similar to your POFQ/POR comparison.
It is the way of the hotel world

 

[aaarcher86]

I agree that I don think their pricing is any different. High/low times, weekday/weekend pricing... I've always seen that with other hotels.

I don't necessarily like the prices, but how they're done seems normal to me.

 

[GaSleepingBeautyFan]

It's the hotel industry standard nowadays. Every hotel I've booked in the past 2 years has different prices at different days of the week/times of the year/views/bed types.

I feel like I need a spread sheet to figure it all out except I am just not motivated enough to make one. LOL

 

[Mousemommy1]

I price out a trip. If I like the price I pay it. It's pretty simple to me.

 

[msdroz]

2 words: marketing geniuses

 

[Oswin]

The pricing you're describing is in effect at most other hotels/resorts all over the US. It isn't a new concept. You will always pay more at hotels during peak times than non-peak times. Other hotel chains charge more for different/better views. Disney is not the first to do this. POR is more expensive than POFQ because it offers slightly more amenities within close proximity than POFQ do, even though they're sister resorts. It's a pain in the you know what and it is frustrating, but it isn't greed. It honestly is just marketing/business sense.

 

[cindyfan]

Regarding POR and POFQ it is supply and demand. POFQ has fewer rooms, so that resort tends to sell out first.

It sounds like Disney is going to what most other hotels use which is a supply and demand pricing structure. There is rack rate, and there are discounts - but the lower prices are based on availability as well as time of year. The less availability and the busier the time of year, the higher the prices will go until you hit rack rate. Under that structure, the POR/POFQ thing makes total sense - fewer rooms at a resort where the rooms tend to sell more quickly anyway (I don't see why, but I'm in the minority on that), the prices will be higher.........

BUT....... It's NOT POFQ that is more expensive.... it's POR!!! So that totally BLEW YOUR THEORY OUT OF THE WATER!!!

I get the whole hotel pricing stuff..... but the point is Disney never used to be so extreme about it!! It's gotten crazy!

 

[cindyfan]

The pricing you're describing is in effect at most other hotels/resorts all over the US. It isn't a new concept. You will always pay more at hotels during peak times than non-peak times. Other hotel chains charge more for different/better views. Disney is not the first to do this. POR is more expensive than POFQ because it offers slightly more amenities within close proximity than POFQ do, even though they're sister resorts. It's a pain in the you know what and it is frustrating, but it isn't greed. It honestly is just marketing/business sense.

Ummmmmm... what amenities??? they are literally right next to each other!

 

[Oswin]

Ummmmmm... what amenities??? they are literally right next to each other!

Yes, that's why I said they're sister resorts. But POR has more pool options, the surrey bike rentals, has rooms that sleep 5 (honestly, I think that's what causes the price increase - along with the royal rooms at POR that POFQ doesn't have) and the fishing options. Disney counts those as amenities, as sad as it is.

 

[focusondisney]

Yes, that's why I said they're sister resorts. But POR has more pool options, the surrey bike rentals, has rooms that sleep 5 (honestly, I think that's what causes the price increase - along with the royal rooms at POR that POFQ doesn't have) and the fishing options. Disney counts those as amenities, as sad as it is.

Most importantly, POR has a sit down restaurant. FQ does NOT. Disney promotes that as 1 of the amenities the moderate resorts have that values don't have. So of course, a moderate without one should cost less.

 

[Dug720]

BUT....... It's NOT POFQ that is more expensive.... it's POR!!! So that totally BLEW YOUR THEORY OUT OF THE WATER!!!

I get the whole hotel pricing stuff..... but the point is Disney never used to be so extreme about it!! It's gotten crazy!

Ah. Usually it is POFQ. I can't stand either of them, so I don't pay that much attention. Are you looking at standard room to standard room prices?

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

I choose what I want on the site and look at the total figure at the end. Job done. Can I afford it? Rinse , lather and repeat for a different resort then select one. Don't wait if it suits your budget. The price will change. Booking DVC is the same, different points for times of year, preferred locations, different rooms, resorts. Let the computer do the work! It works out how many points we need. It's market forces. If POR is more popular than POFQ they will sell it at a premium. I recall when getting bulk seats or seats with more leg room on planes was luck of the draw. Now it's a charge they sell

 

[Shanti]

BUT....... It's NOT POFQ that is more expensive.... it's POR!!! So that totally BLEW YOUR THEORY OUT OF THE WATER!!!

I get the whole hotel pricing stuff..... but the point is Disney never used to be so extreme about it!! It's gotten crazy!

If POR is more popular (which it seems to be from reading the Dis), then of course they'll charge more. Just like the Poly has become so popular, it now often costs more than the Grand Floridian. Supply and demand. Seems logical to me.

 

[Nancyg56]

Just book and go. If you can't afford the bottomine then save for when you can. It's not really that complicated...who am I kidding.

This is my mantra as well. I book what I can afford. I will check different resorts and different dates that are in my vacation range. Either the cost is acceptable or it is not. I refuse to get my bloomers in a bunch over daily pricing. If I did, I would never go anywhere.

I price out a trip. If I like the price I pay it. It's pretty simple to me.

Yup. I break out the trip between resort cost, dining cost and tickets because I like to know where my money is going. Then I add it up when I cost the package, but that's the end of the problem. The price is the price. I pay or I walk away.

 

[jbharr1]

So I assume that you haven't seen the latest and greatest ADDITIONAL thing you can buy. Wait for it, $125 for a 1 day admission to the MK isn't enough, adding on another $55 for a park hopper isn't enough either, for an additional $69 you can get in at 745 and ride 7ddm, PP and WP AND get breakfast at the Pinocchio Village Haus. So, let's do the math on that - yes, it is under $250 per person...by a dollar.

Tom

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