Why does everyone want CRV DVC?

[BroganMc]

I think someone made them???? don't remember the details. the CR use to say in all its advertisement that it was not handicapped accessible - but they did provide a bus/van.

Hence the oxymoron of it being the "futuristic hotel of the 21st century". But back in the early '70s the last thing on anyone's mind was accommodating the disabled. I remember knock down drag out fights with my parents and doctors over this. A very demoralizing time to grow up with a disabling disease. Fortunately enough wise people spoke up and pointed out how stupid it was that the world eventually changed.

I remember at the time it completely ruined my first impression of Chef Mickey's. I've learned to love it since. But then now I park at the TTC and ride the monorail over. I still manage to get to Cape may more often for a character breakfast though.

I imagine any new DVC building will be 10x better at making this resort a truly 21st century hotel.

I think some of the wing rooms were handicapped?????

I don't know about then, but I know several of the Tower rooms are now. My aunt stayed in one March '05. Nice room but way too small for my timeshare sensibilities to fork over all that cash.

 

[d-r]

The monorail is a big deal. And theme park and bay lake views. But a lot of people who are of the age to buy dvc points are probably in their 30s and have a family. If they were like me, when they were kids the contemporary seemed pretty cool. Actually, the monorail going through it seems pretty cool to me now. There is a lot of nostalgia there. My wife talks about memories of the food and fun center and top of the world for example. There is a lot of nostalgia for folks in the contemporary just like the polly and fort wilderness. And just like those other two originals, the contemporary is an extention of the magic kingdom. It is the tommorowland resort just as much as the polly is the adventureland resort and ft. wilderness is the frontierland resort. So it has that extension of the park feeling. Like when you see "perfect park acres" from the people mover. Sure california grill is good and chef mickey's has pbj pizza, but I think nostalgia and gee whiz is as much of it as anything. And it isn't true at all to say the contemporary is "themeless" - it is the tomorrowland resort, and its theme IS disneyworld. It has always been there. It just belongs there. Plus the Mary Blair murals make it one of the MOST disney of the resorts for that matter. I think you just have to get it. But when we decided to get AKV points, my wife made it clear that she WOULD be getting contemporary points if they become available.

Oh, yeah, they have Seadoos at the contemporary.

 

[jemiaule]

Ok, please help me understand why there seems to be all this demand for DVC at the contemporary resort. I've never stayed there but it does look kinds plain there. No theming, no real landscaping and grounds to speak of. VWL is practicallly a stones throw away with much more resort feel and amenties I would think. Yea, Yea contemporary has a monorail station but is that REALLY why everyone wants it?

1) I love the new refurbed rooms at CR. If you like that kind of sleek dark wood design it is really nice. I would love to see full DVC Villas decorated like this.

2) When we used to stay at CR (pre DVC days) we enjoyed walking to MK; especially at the end of the day rather than cramming onto the monorail. But that said...

3) My kiddos LOVE the monorail.

4) Walking distance to Chef Mickeys!

5) Easier to get to the restaurants at Poly and GF. We do not drive to WDW and only on occassion rent a car when visiting.

6) Possibility of an MK view!

We are not big Wilderness Lodge fans. In fact when we talked about where to buy points VWL was not even a contender.

 

[graygables]

Personally, I'll take the bus fumes over the monorail "funk" any day! I've never seen a "used" diaper on the bus, but in the last 3 years, have seen at least 5 stuffed (or just out in the open) around the monorail cars. I suppose there is more time during the "holding pattern" to change the little bugger on the ledge behind the seats (that IS what it's FOR, right??? ) where's the heebie-jeebie smiley???

Honestly, we stayed at the GF at the beginning of our "Kellogg's Trip" and the AKL at the end and EVERYONE preferred the AKL. Transportation was excellent, not having to change monorails (and those ramps are a BEAR to hold a wheelchair on when you're stuck in line.). The CR just holds no appeal for our family whatsoever and the monorail is certainly not a selling point (and I have a DD who uses a wheelchair). Of all the resorts, it is the ONLY one that no one has ever asked to stay in. We will be there in September, but only b/c I'm doing a convention there and maybe it will change our minds, but we are desperately hoping to use our new AKV points *after* the convention!

 

[tvwalsh]

Remember when the AFL finally played in the super bowl against the NFL team? Remember when the leagues were merged into one league? Then finally when the teams were intermixed in the various divisions?

I think this is a good analogy for the DVC and WDW. For a while we were apart from the mainline Disney Hotels (When OKW, the Vacation Club Resort, was the only option for members.) The decision to allow us to use our points at any of the existing resorts in WDW was another move into full partnership. Then, with the building of BWV, VWL, and BCV we (DVC) became part of the new hotels of WDW. The only step left is the building of a DVC building at one of the original monorail resorts. I think all of us, whether we like the new resort and buy into it or not, will benefit from this "full partnership" or as the NFL and AFL used to say, parity.

P.S. I do know that the DVC has always been part of Disney.

 

[Knotty]

Why the hype for CR dvc?

location, location,location.

The only advantage DVC has over other Orlando area time shares is the locations they have.

Other time shares are cheaper, and have life time ownership.

If you are unable to walk to a park, or take a monorail/boat to park, why even own dvc vs other timeshares.

There are many 1800+ sq feet homes you can rent in for a week in the Orlando area for what we pay for our annual dues/taxes. Unless you are on the doorstep of a park, you would be much better off to rent one of these.

 

[shovan]

Hence the oxymoron of it being the "futuristic hotel of the 21st century". But back in the early '70s the last thing on anyone's mind was accommodating the disabled. I remember knock down drag out fights with my parents and doctors over this. A very demoralizing time to grow up with a disabling disease. Fortunately enough wise people spoke up and pointed out how stupid it was that the world eventually changed.
I remember at the time it completely ruined my first impression of Chef Mickey's. I've learned to love it since. But then now I park at the TTC and ride the monorail over. I still manage to get to Cape may more often for a character breakfast though.
I imagine any new DVC building will be 10x better at making this resort a truly 21st century hotel.

BroganMc, we have actually never visited CR because of the early lack of access. We are former Poly addicts & clearly remember riding thru CR on the monorail but not being able to get off to see the place! We didn't hear that it was accessible until years after it happened.

While I'm sure anything new will be much better than CR was. We're not counting on total accessibilty at any WDW resort. We're still shocked that the pool at BC is not accessible.

Of course the interest in CR is as said, location, location, location. Now, if they ever consider DVC at the Poly, we'll be on the phone asap!

 

[spiceycat]

I wasn't around back then, but it seems to me people are pretty passionate about BCV (mostly for, but a few against), and in fact I sense an even more similar passion for WLV (people either seem to love it or strongly dislke/have absolutely no interest in). Both BCV and WLV, while not monorail resorts, have good locations for a specific theme park. Was there a very high interest for either or both these resorts when they were announced?

VWL definitely.

would you believe me and several others did not believe BCV would be a DVC resort until it was announced....

BCV gets is popularity from BC. It got alot of WDW resorts to be members. who wouldn't have considered it before.

 

[corpcomp]

Why the hype for CR dvc?

location, location,location.

The only advantage DVC has over other Orlando area time shares is the locations they have.

Other time shares are cheaper, and have life time ownership.

If you are unable to walk to a park, or take a monorail/boat to park, why even own dvc vs other timeshares.

There are many 1800+ sq feet homes you can rent in for a week in the Orlando area for what we pay for our annual dues/taxes. Unless you are on the doorstep of a park, you would be much better off to rent one of these.

You forget that all other timeshares drop in value the day after, no make that the hour after you buy them. There are tons of timeshares in Orlando selling for half the value that the new units are selling for.

Disney supports the pricing so at least if you want to sell in 5 years you can/ likely get back most of your money at this point (but not in another 20 years for the current group (except SSR)).

I was going to buy an add-on at BCV but will wait for a while till I hear more about this demolition. I'd buy an add-on at CRV if it came true. The only thing I don't like about CRV is the size of the building versus the amount of land or lack of it around it and the fact that, if the cresent shape is the real ending shape, the inside windows are all facing each other. And the pool area seems small versus the number of units.

I bet the final building is something smaller and with less of a curve so that the water views are better.

 

[DVCPAT]

I agree with other posts here. There is no theaming! Just a big concrete highrise no different than what you would see in any big city. Frankly it scares me a little that DVC is going to go this direction. I hope VAKL is a sign that they still plan on theaming their resorts in the future.

I really don’t think Disney is going to duplicate the 70s theme. I think the new resort will totally upstage the old CR with an awesome pool, 4th floor monorail catwalk, roof top observation deck and great waterfront views. It’s prime location and monorail access will provide a great foundation for a new DVC resort.

 

[simzac]

Why the hype for CR dvc?

location, location,location.

The only advantage DVC has over other Orlando area time shares is the locations they have.

Other time shares are cheaper, and have life time ownership.

If you are unable to walk to a park, or take a monorail/boat to park, why even own dvc vs other timeshares.

There are many 1800+ sq feet homes you can rent in for a week in the Orlando area for what we pay for our annual dues/taxes. Unless you are on the doorstep of a park, you would be much better off to rent one of these.

As far as life time membership, I will be 83 when my OKW membership expires. Thats enough lifetime for me. And as far as being on the "doorstep" of the parks, only BWV in my opinion can say they are on the doorstep of 2 parks, BCV is too far from Studios to be considered on the doorstep. So even these resorts require some form of transportation to get to the other parks. My point is, being on Disney property in a DVC resort no matter where it is beats staying off site anyday. CRV will be liked by many members, but it will only be close to one park, the other 3 will be quite far away. I for one like the buses, so any DVC resort will work for me. This is of course, JMO.

 

[MinnieGi]

This is the resort that will get me to buy DVC. Personally, it is a sentimental fav, because I went in the 70s when I was a kid and always wished we could stay at the CR or Poly instead of schlepping to and from the Days Inn Kissimmee.

You too??? I was that kid also!!!

 

[OneMoreTry]

This is the resort that will get me to buy DVC. Personally, it is a sentimental fav, because I went in the 70s when I was a kid and always wished we could stay at the CR or Poly instead of schlepping to and from the Days Inn Kissimmee. ....

This is my reason, too. "Neil schlept here." That's me in Kissimmee.

There's one other sentimental reason. It was Walt's baby. Walt wanted the CR. His consultants/engineers advised against it, but he pressed on -- then died. So it reminds me of Walt.

 

[BroganMc]

BroganMc, we have actually never visited CR because of the early lack of access. We are former Poly addicts & clearly remember riding thru CR on the monorail but not being able to get off to see the place! We didn't hear that it was accessible until years after it happened.

Accessibility issues are like bad restaurant food. Once you encounter it at a location, that location is forever branded in your memory.

We're still shocked that the pool at BC is not accessible.

Ah, now you know why I'm not a fan of that particular resort. All the SAB fervor meets a brick wall in my ears. All I can think of is "no zero entry?", seriously what's the point?

But I think CRV will correct most of those misconceptions. Fact is Disney has gotten much better in planning for accessibility issues. SSR is great. AKV will probably be just as good or better.

 

[jade1]

All I can think of is "no zero entry?", seriously what's the point?
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SAB has over 100 feet of zero entry.

 

[alldiz]

I never wanted to stay at the contemporary....

IMO too sterile...

anyway DD always asks to stay there....

If there was a DVC...I would try it...
Just for monorail....and restaurants...

They need a kids club however...

I am happy with new DVC's anywhere...more choices..
Kerri

 

[spiceycat]

This is my reason, too. "Neil schlept here." That's me in Kissimmee.

There's one other sentimental reason. It was Walt's baby. Walt wanted the CR. His consultants/engineers advised against it, but he pressed on -- then died. So it reminds me of Walt.

remember walt disney DIED long before WDW was even started.

Roy Disney on the other hand, made WDW possible. He came out of retirement to do Walt's Dream.

that dream - at least what you see at tomorrowland TTC ride - does NOT include the CR.

 

[spiceycat]

en a "used" diaper on the bus, but in the last 3 years, have seen at least 5 stuffed (or just out in the open) around the monorail cars. I suppose there is more time during the "holding pattern" to change the little bugger on the ledge behind the seats (that IS what it's FOR, right??? ) where's the heebie-jeebie smiley???

Transportation was excellent, not having to change monorails (and those ramps are a BEAR to hold a wheelchair on when you're stuck in line.). The CR just holds no appeal for our family whatsoever and the monorail is certainly not a selling point (and I have a DD who uses a wheelchair). Of all the resorts, it is the ONLY one that no one has ever asked to stay in. We will be there in September, but only b/c I'm doing a convention there and maybe it will change our minds

that is one reason why the CR is a little better than the GF transportation wise.

at night when you are leaving if there are a ton of people - you can easily walk to the CR - no need to get on the monrail. unless you want too.

mother has a wheelchair and she loves CR.

of course - I am really worst - I stay at BW for Epcot and Studio, and VWL for the MK (this would include CR if and when).

AK doesn't really matter until now....would love to stay at AKV.

but there have been vacations when we ONLY went to the MK. depends upon the ages you are with - this is mother and my niece favorite park and would happily spend forever here. I preferred Epcot.

yes I know what you mean about the wheelchair - I guess we were luck wasn't stuck on the ramp - if I am I just put on the brakes.

people actually changing their children diapers on the monrail.... boy that is awfully.

says more about the guest than Disney. Most people don't expect other people to be so rude and uncaring about others passengers to even consider doing this on the monrail. I think if I saw it - I would mention to these guest 'did they know about restrooms'.....

and unless you mentioned it to a CM at the monrail they have no way of knowing. they do a quick check - not nothing in depth until the end of the day.

Diapers on the monrail - how sick!!!!

t

 

[lenshanem]

On a similar topic of diapers on the monorial...

This past trip my youngest saw a woman rinsing out her baby's butt in the sink in the women's room that had had a blow out.

It was terribly disturbing to my daughter cause for the rest of the trip she didn't want to wash her hands in the sink cause babies' butts had been in there.

 

[Scotch]

On a similar topic of diapers on the monorial...

This past trip my youngest saw a woman rinsing out her baby's butt in the sink in the women's room that had had a blow out.

It was terribly disturbing to my daughter cause for the rest of the trip she didn't want to wash her hands in the sink cause babies' butts had been in there.

OMG! Yuck!! And here I am reading this while munching on food. Blah.