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pipe36

Earning My Ears
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I'll preface this post by saying this is clearly one person's opinion, and I respect and understand why many, especially here, may disagree. Just want to give some insight, if anyone cares, as to why I no longer consider Disney in my vacation plans.

My Families Disney trip, essentially included one week, at the Beach Club, rental car and Park Hoppers. I always considered vacation a special time, a time of few "no's" and a time to splurge. This likely goes back to when I was a kid, we were a middle class family, and let's just say mom was TIGHT with the purse strings. Perhaps the only week of the year where a simple thing like getting whatever we wanted from hotel the vending machine and almost everything was always a yes, was vacation. So, yes, we did stay deluxe resort and the whole 9. I've been fortunate in this life, and could afford this vacation - I still can, but the RELATIVE cost (along with nickel and diming which we'll get to) has just gotten too great. What I can do with the thousands of dollars that it now costs - thousands of dollars that doesn't give me the "luxurious" vacation of a decade ago at Disney, where elsewhere it does. I understand I could cut down levels of resort, eat some meals in the room or off site - but again, that's not vacation to me. I used to say ten years ago we could go anywhere domestically and have a week like kings - any restaraunt, any tours, on the water accomodations etc., for well under a Disney Trip. Now I can go many places in the WORLD with those same standards. It's getting hard to justify - especially with my kids now older.

HOW it's gotten to this point with pricing is the other issue. Parking was the last straw for me. and I don't understand rationalizations I've read on this board concerning it. Just as yesterday, with the announcements of refreshment increases, thousands were saying "increases are happening in your town, why wouldn't they there?' Well, for one, no grocery store in my town was already charging 800 plus % over cost on Coke products before all this started. Their margins are still laughable. Same with "You have to pay to park in every major city." Yes, but I see the premium on parking and land in downtown Chicago, NOT in Disney World with it's acres and acres of land AND acres and acres of parking spots already there. Furthermore, that patch of ground my rental car stays overnight - someone still has yet explained to me why I, as a customer at the Beach Club, pays more for it than someone at the all-star. It's ridiculous, it's a slap in the face, and an insult to my intelligence. And there are many other examples of where I feel played a fool by currents operations, and that's never a great thing.

If the idea was to reduce crowds (which again, laughable) then I'm obliging. I'm a Disney Fan, love Disney history, the parks are fascinating in many ways from construction, design, architecture, urban planning Americana and beyond, Imagineering and cast do wonderful things, but no longer will I be taking part in the circus that it has become. Bottom line, and my opinion only, is Disney is well aware of the demographics in this country. Their target and concern is at the top, and we're currently being caught in their path to get there. Pete, on the Podcast has mini ranted several times when there is a change - usually the annual ticket cost increase, to not complain if you're still gonna come, well, I'm out. Sad. I have memories I'll have forever from the place, and I wouldn't trade em. Best of luck to all Disney fans staying the course.
 

I get what you're saying. But we're here now, post Xmas crowds, and I feel the level of service Disney has always provided is still there....and that costs money. When we walked by Everest on Saturday they had 5 CM outside to explain why it was closed. That's 5 x $15-$20/hr x 10h hours for a ride that isn't running. That's just one example where I féel like Disney has not cut back on staffing/guest experience. Most places would just post a sign.

I understand people's frustrations. This week long trip is costing us almost 50% more than our 2018 family trip. But it is what it is. People can adapt or take their vaca dollars elsewhere. Both options are valid.
 
Pipe36, I hear ya. I love Disney more than any other vacation. I literally want to plan the next trip a week after I return. But, I feel the attention to detail is no longer there. Our trips have gotten shorter and shorter because the longer I stay, the more I notice that lack of shine.
 
I'll preface this post by saying this is clearly one person's opinion, and I respect and understand why many, especially here, may disagree. Just want to give some insight, if anyone cares, as to why I no longer consider Disney in my vacation plans.

My Families Disney trip, essentially included one week, at the Beach Club, rental car and Park Hoppers. I always considered vacation a special time, a time of few "no's" and a time to splurge. This likely goes back to when I was a kid, we were a middle class family, and let's just say mom was TIGHT with the purse strings. Perhaps the only week of the year where a simple thing like getting whatever we wanted from hotel the vending machine and almost everything was always a yes, was vacation. So, yes, we did stay deluxe resort and the whole 9. I've been fortunate in this life, and could afford this vacation - I still can, but the RELATIVE cost (along with nickel and diming which we'll get to) has just gotten too great. What I can do with the thousands of dollars that it now costs - thousands of dollars that doesn't give me the "luxurious" vacation of a decade ago at Disney, where elsewhere it does. I understand I could cut down levels of resort, eat some meals in the room or off site - but again, that's not vacation to me. I used to say ten years ago we could go anywhere domestically and have a week like kings - any restaraunt, any tours, on the water accomodations etc., for well under a Disney Trip. Now I can go many places in the WORLD with those same standards. It's getting hard to justify - especially with my kids now older.

HOW it's gotten to this point with pricing is the other issue. Parking was the last straw for me. and I don't understand rationalizations I've read on this board concerning it. Just as yesterday, with the announcements of refreshment increases, thousands were saying "increases are happening in your town, why wouldn't they there?' Well, for one, no grocery store in my town was already charging 800 plus % over cost on Coke products before all this started. Their margins are still laughable. Same with "You have to pay to park in every major city." Yes, but I see the premium on parking and land in downtown Chicago, NOT in Disney World with it's acres and acres of land AND acres and acres of parking spots already there. Furthermore, that patch of ground my rental car stays overnight - someone still has yet explained to me why I, as a customer at the Beach Club, pays more for it than someone at the all-star. It's ridiculous, it's a slap in the face, and an insult to my intelligence. And there are many other examples of where I feel played a fool by currents operations, and that's never a great thing.

If the idea was to reduce crowds (which again, laughable) then I'm obliging. I'm a Disney Fan, love Disney history, the parks are fascinating in many ways from construction, design, architecture, urban planning Americana and beyond, Imagineering and cast do wonderful things, but no longer will I be taking part in the circus that it has become. Bottom line, and my opinion only, is Disney is well aware of the demographics in this country. Their target and concern is at the top, and we're currently being caught in their path to get there. Pete, on the Podcast has mini ranted several times when there is a change - usually the annual ticket cost increase, to not complain if you're still gonna come, well, I'm out. Sad. I have memories I'll have forever from the place, and I wouldn't trade em. Best of luck to all Disney fans staying the course.
I wish you the best in wherever your travels take you. If the nickel and diming is casuing you such constrenation, then its clear you are making the smart and healthy choice to move on from Disney. But why hang around here (let alone make a big announcement about no longer visiting Disney)? If you're out, you're out. Enjoy everything else the world has to offer
 
I still enjoy a Disney vacation, but as my kids are grown, I want to try other things. I love cruising and I would try a Disney cruise, but it costs twice as much as other lines. I see our Disney world vacations becoming less often for now. Maybe one we have some grandkids it will pick up again.
 
I have felt this way for a while, too. I'm happy for my past Disney trips; because, I can't justify going back right now. We have over 50 trips through the years and we have stayed at each resort level through the years. Our last trip was November 2019.

I do believe this Disney bubble will burst. It will take a while but it will change. In the long run this current Disney business plan will collapse; I believe. I can wait it out. If it doesn't change for the better in my eyes I will simply not go back.

Over the last 10 years we were going back less and less anyway; so, I'm not concerned about it anymore. My one regret is we wanted to go with our great grandsons, who are 8 right now. Maybe, before they are adults we still may have one more trip left in us to go, but only if it gets back basically to pre Covid status.

I understand price hikes, but Disney has gone too far.
 
I wish you the best in wherever your travels take you. If the nickel and diming is casuing you such constrenation, then its clear you are making the smart and healthy choice to move on from Disney. But why hang around here (let alone make a big announcement about no longer visiting Disney)? If you're out, you're out. Enjoy everything else the world has to offer


Hence the reason I said "just my insight for anyone who cares." Not some big announcement - a point of view in a single board post.
 
I felt it a little today at Epcot. So many things “missing” and of course the construction walls don’t help. I know things are different in our world, but it was my husband’s first visit and as we walked around a pretty empty World Showcase, with a few Christmas decorations still up, he said things like “This would be so cool if they had some entertainment in these countries”, and I thought about the missing Chinese acrobats, and some of the other live entertainment that I loved. I will still continue to go often (renewed my AP today), and enjoyed the few rides there, but it definitely was a bit of dismay at the lack of things.
 
But why hang around here (let alone make a big announcement about no longer visiting Disney)? If you're out, you're out.

Why question the validity or worthiness of someone else's post? I didn't realize we need to have plans to return to WDW to contribute to this community.

I feel the same way as the OP. After visiting annually from 2011 through 2021 (excluding 2020) we are done. For a myriad of reasons we have no plans to return anytime soon.

I still enjoy reading about people's experiences and the latest news and occasionally being able to help answer questions others may have.

I wish I still had the joy of thinking ahead to our next trip and the fun that goes along with planning, but I just don't anymore.
 
We are fairly new to Disney so maybe it doesn’t suffer as much by comparison. (It’s always been expensive to me, we started going 3 years ago. I guess I don’t know what I’ve missed!)

Before Disney, hubby and I travelled the world. We have been to all the continents and exhausted our travel bucket lists. Yes there are many beautiful places out there. But for some reason, there’s a magic at Disney that I haven’t found elsewhere.

I hope you and your family enjoy exploring the world, OP.
 
promised my grand children we would celebrate my retirement at WDW in April 2020. Trip has been postponed several times, now set for this spring. Looking at what the cost was for April 2020 and what we would have gotten for the money compared to now, after this trip probably never again. Planning a trip to Universal next.
 
Why question the validity or worthiness of someone else's post? I didn't realize we need to have plans to return to WDW to contribute to this community.

I feel the same way as the OP. After visiting annually from 2011 through 2021 (excluding 2020) we are done. For a myriad of reasons we have no plans to return anytime soon.

I still enjoy reading about people's experiences and the latest news and occasionally being able to help answer questions others may have.

I wish I still had the joy of thinking ahead to our next trip and the fun that goes along with planning, but I just don't anymore.
Relax. I didn't question the validity or worthiness (not even sure what that means in this context) of the OP's post. Not trying to suggest its invalid. I just don't understand why the OP, or you, or anyone else that is of the opnion that they don't want to go to Disney again would spend the time or energy to post and participate on a message board dedicated to the very thing that seems to cause them distress (or unhappiness, or consternation, or whichever adjective you would use to describe your current feelings about the state of Disney). I prefer to focus on the things in my life that bring me happiness
 
They posted because they are sad about something they loved. I get it! I feel the same way and feel bad that things have changed. It is helpful to share with those who love Disney and see the differences now. I agree with P and you are correct to share your sadness and disappointment with all the changes that have taken place that no longer make Disney as special.
 
Relax. I didn't question the validity or worthiness (not even sure what that means in this context) of the OP's post. Not trying to suggest its invalid. I just don't understand why the OP, or you, or anyone else that is of the opnion that they don't want to go to Disney again would spend the time or energy to post and participate on a message board dedicated to the very thing that seems to cause them distress (or unhappiness, or consternation, or whichever adjective you would use to describe your current feelings about the state of Disney). I prefer to focus on the things in my life that bring me happiness
You know why these kind of posts are good? Because the more people that complain, and start using their dollars elsewhere, the better chance there is of Disney changing. The whole “it is what it is” mentality that I’ve been seeing on the boards lately needs to go. That has never been a good explanation for anything.

And these post also make people like myself feel good that other people are experiencing the same feelings I am about Disney. It’s heartbreaking to see something you love become unrecognizable, and the people who best understand those feelings can be found on here.
 
@pipe36 we had a great year of Disney, we started off at Disneyland in summer of 2019 then had our February 2020 at Disney World. We then planned a big trip to be at Disney for the 50th (on the 50th) and celebrate our 30th Anniversary. Then reality began to set in, hearing about various aspect where Disney wasn't living up to their historical high marker on service. Plus looking at what was new and what we were going to be missing. Disney wouldn't have Guardians read, wouldn't have Tron ready and at the time looked like Ratatouille wasn't going to be ready either and the big downer was still no MK Train (that's a big deal for us). So we asked ourselves WHY are we going?

So we didn't we bailed on Mickey and went to Hawaii, honestly had a wonder 8 days on two Islands and great food and service (imagine that some hotels still service your rooms) and overall we saved money compared to Disney.

While I love Disney I am not happy about many of their current operating issues; prices, service, tech issues so we're taking a break. My oldest son and his wife would like to go, but agreed that now is not the time. So it's on our radar for 3-5 years. For now we have another Hawaii trip on the books. I hang out there to stay up on Disney with the hopes that things begin to turn away from their current path.
 
Relax. I didn't question the validity or worthiness (not even sure what that means in this context) of the OP's post. Not trying to suggest its invalid. I just don't understand why the OP, or you, or anyone else that is of the opnion that they don't want to go to Disney again would spend the time or energy to post and participate on a message board dedicated to the very thing that seems to cause them distress (or unhappiness, or consternation, or whichever adjective you would use to describe your current feelings about the state of Disney). I prefer to focus on the things in my life that bring me happiness


You assume I'm spending a lotta time here.

You do you.
 












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