Whitney Houston dead

[happygirl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=EHibS8VRlFM

Whitney last public performance. I can't hear what she singing but a lot of people say it's Yes, Jesus loves me

 

[Uncle Remus]

Houston had recently finished shooting "Sparkle," the remake of the 1976 Irene Cara film that, eerily, focuses on talented young musicians whose lives are ruined by addiction. Houston also served as an executive producer on the movie, acquiring rights to the original film more than a decade ago. The movie, shot this past fall and currently in post-production, is scheduled to be released in August. No word yet on any release-date changes; we're awaiting word from a producer.

The original "Sparkle" told the story of the Williams sisters, a trio of 1950s-era Harlem singers whose stories were loosely inspired by the Supremes. Headed by Lonette McKee's Sister, the group also features Sister's sister Sparkle (Cara), Dolores (Dawn Smith) and several friends. As they begin to find success, though, Sister's life spirals out of control, with drug addiction eventually leading to her death.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mov...parkle-cause-of-death-movie-release-date.html

 

[TLSnell1981]

I'm hearing, Bobby is NOT performing tonight. N

**editied**Nevermind. He just hit the stage.

 

[Dee77]

From what I heard on Fox it was all straight CPR. And that's long enough to know whether the patient has a shot of coming back or not.

Its a shame she's gone though. Haven't heard anything about her in quite awhile. I imagine when the autopsy is done that her drug use will have played a role in it even if she's been sober for awhile. But that's speculation.

Her daughter is what? 19-20 now?

I completely agree that the paramedics just knew there wasn't any chance of her being revived, what I find strange is when you hear about some celebrities, like Michael Jackson that they removed from the house and "worked on him" for over an hour and a half before actually pronouncing him dead at the hospital.

If she (Whitney) spoke with her Mom about a half hour before she died, and let's assume she didn't die a minute later, it was probably several minutes later at least, then it makes me wonder what they could have seen with her that would have caused them to stop CPR after just 15 minutes or so. KWIM

 

[JessicaR]

I'm hearing, Bobby is NOT performing tonight. N

**editied**Nevermind. He just hit the stage.

Blah - thought some respect may shine through - guess not.

 

[Dee77]

NBC 4 news at 11pm EST stated that her body is still in the hotel.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Blah - thought some respect may shine through - guess not.

He struggling, but did it to honor Whitney.

 

[happygirl]

They were saying the police are getting a search warrant, I guess that to look for illegal drugs she might have

 

[CandyMandy]

These are the last photos taken of Whitney, as she exited a nightclub on Thursday. The corresponding article says she may have had blood dripping down her leg and scratches on her wrist. Whether that is accurate, the photos speak for themselves in terms of her state of mind and may well end up confirming what we all suspect led to her demise. Sad....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2099347/Whitney-Houston-emerges-nightclub-looking-worse-wear.html

 

[moon]

I completely agree that the paramedics just knew there wasn't any chance of her being revived, what I find strange is when you hear about some celebrities, like Michael Jackson that they removed from the house and "worked on him" for over an hour and a half before actually pronouncing him dead at the hospital.

If she (Whitney) spoke with her Mom about a half hour before she died, and let's assume she didn't die a minute later, it was probably several minutes later at least, then it makes me wonder what they could have seen with her that would have caused them to stop CPR after just 15 minutes or so. KWIM

I was wondering just that.... it is really strange.

 

[cornflake]

NBC 4 news at 11pm EST stated that her body is still in the hotel.

Yeah cause (for those who didn't watch Katy ) the hotel is packed and surrounded and they're not sure how to get it out of there without it becoming a giant thing. I think she said they're considering the helipad on the roof.

Considering the pics from Thursday, really how is this a shock? I mean considering the last couple decades it's not really a shock but... the pictures from Thursday made a big splash because she looked like she looked. So.. Dionne Warwick I'm guessing wouldn't say 'she sounded like she was high' regardless. Though, who knows, could be cumulative.

Simon Cowell going on about how shocking though... dude? C'mon.

Weirdly, I was out before and like, everyone was talking about this. I mean totally random people, all over, on the streets of NYC. Some guys walking behind me talking about it, someone singing a song of hers ironically then apologizing to the people around him, the workers in the Duane Read speculating, it was bizarre how it was just the topic, everywhere.

Tragic mess. Sad for her family. I've heard her mother, Cissy, sing, and it was incredible. She was very frail, had to be helped across the stage to a stool and then almost busted every window in the place.

 

[cornflake]

Maybe (I have no idea, just speculating) the difference between Houston and Jackson w/re the EMTs and hospital is that they maybe knew she ODed (assuming she did), from stuff in the room and tried to revive her and failed or knew she'd been dead for a period of time before she was found.

Jackson I think there was confusion and lying by the dr. as to what had happened and when and what he was on and what he was given and etc. - so maybe they thought it was something that could have been more likely to be revivable from - including maybe because they thought the medical equipment had been hooked up the entire time and that the dr. had been giving him CPR the entire time, giving him a better chance if they could restart his heart vs. if someone found her and then called them 10 minutes after she died...

 

[hereyago]

I am actually watching MTV who is actually playing her videos. Brings back such great memories of that time.


I was thinking about she died where Clive Davis -the guy who discovered her was throwing his party, I hope before she passed she felt no pain, etc but how odd for her to pass there right before the party.


On a side note: If Bobby makes an appearance at the grammy's for "her" i will throw up in my mouth. He was always an attention ***.

 

[Imzadi]

I completely agree that the paramedics just knew there wasn't any chance of her being revived, what I find strange is when you hear about some celebrities, like Michael Jackson that they removed from the house and "worked on him" for over an hour and a half before actually pronouncing him dead at the hospital.

If she (Whitney) spoke with her Mom about a half hour before she died, and let's assume she didn't die a minute later, it was probably several minutes later at least, then it makes me wonder what they could have seen with her that would have caused them to stop CPR after just 15 minutes or so. KWIM

I think, (someone else can look it up,) but brain damage can set in if CPR is not started within 5 minutes. We don't know who found her & how long she was down. Her body might have been cold enough that the EMT's thought chances were nil that she'd really be able to come back.

In Michael Jackson's case, the doctor lied & was supposedly monitoring him all the time. Also, MJ wasn't known to be as much of a drug addict as Whitney. So they probably thought other factors were involved in his death. Plus the Dr. lied about it all at the time.

Also, maybe the EMT and the doctor at the hospital were huge fans of his and were unwilling to just give up. An hour & a half seems like a long time to be doing CPR/defib on someone.

These are the last photos taken of Whitney, as she exited a nightclub on Thursday. The corresponding article says she may have had blood dripping down her leg and scratches on her wrist. Whether that is accurate, the photos speak for themselves in terms of her state of mind and may well end up confirming what we all suspect led to her demise. Sad....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2099347/Whitney-Houston-emerges-nightclub-looking-worse-wear.html

That's sad. That last picture of her, her eyes definitely look like she was toasted.

 

[Dee77]

I am just wondering why they wouldn't have taken her out in am ambulance after 10 minutes, surely there weren't any/many cameras there at THAT point.

I also agree that it was (like Michael Jackson) just a matter of time before this happened. I don't blame Bobby though, he exposed her to this way of life but she had many opportunities to get clean and sober and many people who wanted her to kick the habit. She did however have many other people around her that were clearly willing to look the other way and possibly are the ones that enabled her down this path again but she alone made the choices to do what ultimately became her demise.

So many parallels to Michael Jackson.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I do think they postponed the Oscars when there was an attempt on President Reagan's life. And they postponed the Emmys after 9/11. But I'm with all of you--they won't postpone the Grammys. They'll honor Whitney, I'm sure.

The Oscars have actually been postponed three times:
1938 by the Los Angeles floods;
1968 after Martin Luther King was assassinated;
1981 after the attempt on Ronald Reagan's life.

With all due respect to Whitney Houston as a talented performer, she's not on a par with Reagan or King. And too much expense and planning goes into such an event. It's nOT like you can just move it all to theater B on Tuesday if hall X doesn't 'work' for you at the last minute.

 

[tinatark]

I completely agree that the paramedics just knew there wasn't any chance of her being revived, what I find strange is when you hear about some celebrities, like Michael Jackson that they removed from the house and "worked on him" for over an hour and a half before actually pronouncing him dead at the hospital.

If she (Whitney) spoke with her Mom about a half hour before she died, and let's assume she didn't die a minute later, it was probably several minutes later at least, then it makes me wonder what they could have seen with her that would have caused them to stop CPR after just 15 minutes or so. KWIM

Paramedics wanted to pronounce MJ dead at the scene - the doctor was the highest ranking medical professional there and refused. That's why they took him to the hospital.

 

[cornflake]

I am just wondering why they wouldn't have taken her out in am ambulance after 10 minutes, surely there weren't any/many cameras there at THAT point.

I also agree that it was (like Michael Jackson) just a matter of time before this happened. I don't blame Bobby though, he exposed her to this way of life but she had many opportunities to get clean and sober and many people who wanted her to kick the habit. She did however have many other people around her that were clearly willing to look the other way and possibly are the ones that enabled her down this path again but she alone made the choices to do what ultimately became her demise.

So many parallels to Michael Jackson.

There were, there's a big Clive Davis party at the hotel tonight - that's why the EMTs got to the room itself so fast, they were already there because there was a big event, so the hotel had them on standby, as is standard practice for something like that.

So the place was packed with people and press presumably setting up and stuff so I guess they figured people would notice them bringing a body out.

The Grammys are tomorrow night so there's a lot of music stuff/press/people all around and the Davis preparty was at that hotel.

 

[Dee77]

There were, there's a big Clive Davis party at the hotel tonight - that's why the EMTs got to the room itself so fast, they were already there because there was a big event, so the hotel had them on standby, as is standard practice for something like that.

So the place was packed with people and press presumably setting up and stuff so I guess they figured people would notice them bringing a body out.

The Grammys are tomorrow night so there's a lot of music stuff/press/people all around and the Davis preparty was at that hotel.

Her body was still there at least 4 hours after she died, did they think the media would go away or that news outlets would say, "well we can get some footage from one of the grammy reporters that are there already, let's not bother sending anyone" It is now a major circus and they are talking about taking her out in a helicopter.

 

[Imzadi]

I am just wondering why they wouldn't have taken her out in am ambulance after 10 minutes, surely there weren't any/many cameras there at THAT point.

I'm wondering if it isn't deemed a suspicious death at this point in time. Like after the paramedics announced her dead, they have to leave her there as there is an obviously fresh puncture wound on her arm, but no paraphernalia around her or in the apartment.

Whoever found her might have wanted to help her by removing the stuff, but are now being grilled about it. They might realize their fingerprints are now all over the stuff and aren't willing to confess to taking it away, as they might be accused of giving her the lethal dose.

The coroner & the CSI team would have to scour her body before taking her away in case any speck of evidence falls off her. Why else would her body still be on site for so long?