When will Disney stop selling cruises

[Bjn10]

So we all know that when we resume cruises it’s going to look different. One thing that will have to change is capacity, when Disney world was getting set to reopen they stopped selling new bookings for a period of time, when do you all think DCL will stop selling rooms so they can focus on those with booked Trips, I’m imagining there going to send those same “are you still going surveys”. Soon

 

[ghtx]

I am curious about this too. I wonder if they will need to combine cruises and bump people's itineraries to meet demand. Just like the airlines are doing (e.g. I booked a flight leaving at 5pm; and they move me to a flight leaving at noon instead since there aren't enough passengers to have both flights).

 

[FigmentSpark]

I don't know about that. They have a lot of people with "credits" that need to be used up in 2022, but they haven't even released the 2022 itineraries. Also, with that kind of heavy load on the books, I think they still need some money coming in. If they aren't taking bookings, they can't have any new revenue, just old credits to be used. And that money is being spent right now on upkeep and readying for travel... literally to keep afloat.

 

[Bjn10]

I don't know about that. They have a lot of people with "credits" that need to be used up in 2022, but they haven't even released the 2022 itineraries. Also, with that kind of heavy load on the books, I think they still need some money coming in. If they aren't taking bookings, they can't have any new revenue, just old credits to be used. And that money is being spent right now on upkeep and readying for travel... literally to keep afloat.

Yes true I’m talking about those sailings in early 21 that will be subject to capacity limits how full are these ships and how do they decide if they are overbooked who to kick off the ship

 

[Cruising Engineer]

I don't see DCL ever stop selling future cruises, whether they sail or not, full or limited capacity. Just like the airlines, once they have your money, they can bump, delay, or cancel at will. As @FigmentSpark stated, they need continuous in-flow of revenue to keep operating. Bumping, delaying, and canceling is cheap for the cruise and airline industry. It costs less to fill a seat or a bed for the industry than it does for you. Employee discounts: it's only $11.87 for me to go first class from ABQ to DFW.

 

[Drfate102]

By still selling future cruises, they keep a positive cash flow. Important distinction, it is NOT revenue, they don't get to recognize the revenue until the ship sales. Until then, the cash is charged to a liability account on the Balance Sheet. They can sell out every cruise that they have open and report an operating loss.

 

[gotomu212]

Yes true I’m talking about those sailings in early 21 that will be subject to capacity limits how full are these ships and how do they decide if they are overbooked who to kick off the ship

I think current demand for early 2021 is already pretty low (despite those really eager on a cruise line message board). I think there’s more of an issue with how empty they’d be willing to sail than what to do with overbooking.

 

[Cruising Engineer]

By still selling future cruises, they keep a positive cash flow. Important distinction, it is NOT revenue, they don't get to recognize the revenue until the ship sales. Until then, the cash is charged to a liability account on the Balance Sheet. They can sell out every cruise that they have open and report an operating loss.

Thank you. I learned something new about revenue vs cash flow.

 

[Joe Brig]

If everyone is tested before entering the ship and people in high risk groups accepting the risks do we need capacity to be reduced? Capacity will take care of itself, however, once DCL announces restrictions. Require masks on board 33% drop, no buffets 10%, no shows 25% ...

 

[disneygeek401]

If everyone is tested before entering the ship and people in high risk groups accepting the risks do we need capacity to be reduced? Capacity will take care of itself, however, once DCL announces restrictions. Require masks on board 33% drop, no buffets 10%, no shows 25% ...

I have a good feeling that the "reduced capacity" requirement won't mean much since they won't even reach that demand. Not only do people want to wear masks, but I know the whole only cruise line sponsored excursions is a big deal breaker. At least from what I have seen.

 

[Husker Mike]

Everybody has their own requirements to return to cruising. Some people will not cruise if there is a mask requirement; others will not cruise if there isn't. Some people feel that reduced capacity isn't necessary; others will not cruise if there isn't an assurance the cruise won't be packed. You can say that testing at the port is enough, but because you could have been infected en route to the port, you might not test positive until days later. (My thoughts are that everyone on board needs to be tested every 2-3 days and that social distancing should be possible on deck on sea days.)

If you feel capacity limits aren't needed because it's unlikely that the cruises will be full, then putting capacity limits in place wouldn't hurt anybody and would eliminate the fear of some people that they'll find themselves on a packed boat with no ability to escape. Disclose what the limits are going to be, and then people can make their decision accordingly. More information and transparency over what people should expect should be a base requirement that everyone should be able to agree on, even if we disagree about masks/capacity/excursions.

 

[CrawfordMomof3]

By still selling future cruises, they keep a positive cash flow. Important distinction, it is NOT revenue, they don't get to recognize the revenue until the ship sales. Until then, the cash is charged to a liability account on the Balance Sheet. They can sell out every cruise that they have open and report an operating loss.

Well said. Thank you for explaining that.

 

[n2mm]

All I keep doing is moving cruises. January 2021 moved to April 2021, which was moved today to February 2022. One day I’ll get to cruise again.