I've also heard that the date is delayed to later in October, but must admit that I've not read it on any official site yet. I've checked the employee site and haven't found anything regarding that yet. I'm thinking that when the November hours get released, maybe next week, the refurb listing may get updated then too. All we can do is wait and see. We are, however, there later in October, so our chances are a little better than others.