Whats up with the Epcot USA pavillion food?

[bicker]

would be nice if they did have more regional offerings, in addition to the current ones. Make it a nice food court/counter service area.

Wouldn't that make it seem redundant with Seasons Food Court? I don't see enough benefit to have two food courts like that.

 

[OKW Lover]

What's more American than fast food???

 

[zulaya]

I don't know that it's redundant...I suppose it's could be a similar food delivery style. But really, if that's the argument, then you could make the same one for all the counter service places in Epcot because they are all pretty much the same delivery style as well.

Truth be told, I haven't been to Season's since it's renovation, and I know it has a few different food stations, but I thought it was themed to the seasons of the year ~ winter, spring, summer, fall ~ not the regions of the country.

I don't see why you still couldn't have a regional food court, maybe not as extensive as I suggested, but it's still something that could work.

 

[jarestel]

I guess, as a previous poster pointed out, many visitors from outside the USA seem to think all we eat is burgers and fries anyway. If they come here expecting to sample our "authentic" quisine and find lobster, ribs, or steak on the menu instead, imagine the disappointment on their faces. No, better to stick with what's expected from us.

 

[DizWacko]

I have no problem with burgers/fries/dogs as it IS very american. However, all I was saying that a nicer TS restaurant should be ADDED to the existing offering. So much of AMerican food is brought from other cultures, but if Im not mistaken the one REAL american cuisine (born and bred here) is good ole fashioned BBQ ... why not a nice TS with down-home cooked ribs, brisked, chicken, cornbread, mac/cheese, etc, etc ..??

There is no logical reason not to do this.

 

[bicker]

I don't know that it's redundant...I suppose it's could be a similar food delivery style.... Truth be told, I haven't been to Season's since it's renovation, and I know it has a few different food stations, but I thought it was themed to the seasons of the year ~ winter, spring, summer, fall ~ not the regions of the country.

I also haven't been to Seasons since the renovation. I didn't realize how much it had changed. As you point out: They just changed it from the themed to regions of the country to themed to the seasons of the year. Why would they put a new food court, themed to the seasons of the year, into the American Adventure (unless they changed Seasons specifically because they wanted to install a food court at the American Adventure, themed to the seasons of the year -- i.e., they're already ahead of us!)?

I have no problem with burgers/fries/dogs as it IS very american. However, all I was saying that a nicer TS restaurant should be ADDED to the existing offering. ... why not a nice TS with down-home cooked ribs, brisked, chicken, cornbread, mac/cheese, etc, etc ..?? There is no logical reason not to do this.

You've got it backward. Business doesn't rely on "not having a logical reason to not do something" -- rather it relies on having a specific logical reason to do something, i.e., a business case that shows that the specific use of capital would provide the greatest return-on-investment. Let's talk about the recent rehab to Seasons -- can you argue that that money should have been spent, instead, on a reimplementation of the dining at the American Experience, as per your suggestion, without relying soley on your own personal preference?

Which, incidently, I share. I would utter LOVE for the American Experience to change over to ribs, brisket, etc. LOVE IT. However, I fear there aren't quite enough of us that feel that way. Time will tell though...

 

[Lesley]

Southern food....serve just about anything with grits (at least that's what the fancy "southern cuisine" place here does...LOL). Or BBQ and corn bread....beans. To be honest, I can't say I recall seeing grits at WDW...but maybe that's because I haven't looked for them. For me its a recently acquired taste, much like hot boiled peanuts (hey, where is the hot boiled peanut stand?).

But really, all the options listed are available elsewhere in WDW (bbq at Flame Tree in AK, chowder at Columbia Harbor House in MK, etc...). All the other eating in the WS countries is rather stereotypical, why not the US too? I mean, I know the Japanese eat more than sushi, germans eat more than sausages, chinese more than egg rolls....and the menus in those countries don't really go much beyone those things.

 

[bicker]

Grits is available at Boatwrights at POR, Olivia's at OKW, Whispering Canyon at Wilderness Lodge, Trail's End at Ft Wilderness, and at the Concourse Stakehouse at the Contemporary, among other places.

 

[Ilovestitch]

I think one reason the menu might be the way it is- where else in WS can you get burgers, fries, chicken strips, etc.?

I know when I was a kid- the only quick service place in WS that my little brother and I would eat is at the American pavillion b/c we were kind of picky. Not all kids will try lamb kabobs or tempura, kwim?

I'm not saying its right, but maybe the food is the way it is b/c people complained that there wasn't any "normal" food?

 

[bicker]

Sort of an oasis between shish kabab, surimi and bratwurst.

 

[DizWacko]

You've got it backward. Business doesn't rely on "not having a logical reason to not do something" -- rather it relies on having a specific logical reason to do something, i.e., a business case that shows that the specific use of capital would provide the greatest return-on-investment. Let's talk about the recent rehab to Seasons -- can you argue that that money should have been spent, instead, on a reimplementation of the dining at the American Experience, as per your suggestion, without relying soley on your own personal preference?

Which, incidently, I share. I would utter LOVE for the American Experience to change over to ribs, brisket, etc. LOVE IT. However, I fear there aren't quite enough of us that feel that way. Time will tell though...

I understand your point, but I think you are taking it a bit too far. The question is why wasnt there EVER a TS put in the American pavillion. Do you think there is a huge market for pickled herring in Norway or other Norweigan foods? I highly doubt it... in fact I would bet the BBQ place would easily outsell the Norweigan food ... in fact Im not sure what the attendance at Akershus would be nowadays without the recently added character meals ...
ANother example would be Marrakesh ... definitely among the finest food in WS IMO ... yet one of the least attended places .. there is more than supply and demand at work here ... IMO of course.

There must be another reason why this is ...

 

[lyncruiser]

Epcot was built in, what, 1982 or so. There as been a culinary revolution in this country since then. New American cuisine, cult California wines, etc., all happened long after the American pavilion was constructed. I suspect at the time it was built, American cuisine did, indeed, mean burgers and fries. Since then, there's been a sea change in American dining. Disney has reflected that in restaurants like California Grill. I suspect that if Disney were constructing the American pavilion today, it probably would have a TS restaurant showcasing new American cuisine and California wines. Just my opinion.

 

[bicker]

Except that, to a great extent, the whole rest of WDW is intended to showcase America: American entertainment, American service, American cuisine. There are just a few small sectors that are devoted to showcasing things that are not-American.