No, don't forget about it, there are APH rates available NOW for the onsite hotels, but not all dates/ room categories/ hotels may be available. I booked HRH for Oct 3 - 6 using the APH rate, we have a deluxe queen (additional charge for third adult) for $214, 214 and 318 (ouch) for the three nights. Standard rooms were available starting at around $179 I think. Come to think of it, I was told by the reservationist that the reason the third night is so much more (it's a Wed, not a weekend) is because that is the start of a higher season. So actually you may not be able to get a good rate at all for those dates, but it's certainly worth a try. I would go right away to the Loews site and check the rates. Also, plug in each night seperately to see if discounted rates are available for that night. The website will only give you the rate that is available for the entire length of your stay, and you may be able to get AP rates for some nights but not for others. Or call the Loews first or Be A Star phone #. Good luck!