what is the procedure for reallocating points at 7 months?

[jo-jo]

We have a reservation at BLT using BLT points. I asked about if there was availability at BLT could we reallocate SSR points. I was told I would have to cancel and rebook, but there isn't anything for our dates anyway. BUT I have a waitlist at BCV and requested using SSR points if those dates come thru. That seems ok. They would use the SSR points and then shorten my days at BLT and return the points to my account. Why would I have to cancel and rebook at BLT, but at BCV it would be booked and then canceled the days at BLT?


Also I was told if I wanted the waitlist until 31 days, I could use SSR points, but if I wanted until 7 days, then I would have to use BLT points?????? Is this something new, or a mistaken CM? Is doesn't make sense to me.


I'm sorry, I think I posted this in the wrong forum. I think it should have been in "planning".

 

[rlovew]

The cancel and rebook is because you are trying to use different points. If someone is on the waitlist and you wanted to change over and use SSR points then you are really taking away there home resort use priority- becuase you used home resort priority to book. If you cancel it would free up your room to the waitlist and then you could use the SSR points without having reserved the room using home resort booking.

The reason they won't let you use other points after 30 days is if you did the BLT points you cancel would go into holding and only be useable for bookings with a 60 day notice (so resort status wouldn't matter at all), before that if they cancel the BLT reservation then the points are still regular points.

I know I am as clear as mud but I hope that helps.

 

[jo-jo]

I see what you are saying, but it still doesn't make sense.

If I have a room for Dec 1 and there are 10 other rooms available for dec 1. Why can't I book one of those 10 rooms and then cancel the room I book 4 months ago? I would be afraid to lose my room with the cancel, then book system.


And with the booking at 7 months, if the points go into holding, what difference does it make if I used which home resort? If my daughter (on contract) called today to make to book at BCV for dec. using SSR points, wouldn't they still go into holding if she cancelled under 31 days?

I not disputing what you said, the rules just don't make sense to me.

Thanks for the info, let's just hope the waitlist comes thru and I don't have to worry about all of the above.

 

[chalee94]

We have a reservation at BLT using BLT points. I asked about if there was availability at BLT could we reallocate SSR points. I was told I would have to cancel and rebook, but there isn't anything for our dates anyway.

you cannot cheat the home resort window by booking BLT at 11 months with SSR pts. since you could not use SSR pts at 11 months out to book BLT, you cannot swap out SSR pts at 7 months for BLT pts that were used in the home resort window.

if you cancel the BLT villa, it would go to the next person on the BLT waitlist - most likely a BLT owner who got on the waitlist with BLT pts.

if there are other BLT villas available at 7 months out - besides the one that you booked with BLT pts - you can book that with SSR (or whatever) pts and cancel the villa booked with BLT pts. (you can do this by reallocating pts to allow you to keep the same reservation number but the principle is the same - which is exactly what you are looking at with BCV).

 

[Buckeye Fan]

We have a reservation at BLT using BLT points. I asked about if there was availability at BLT could we reallocate SSR points. I was told I would have to cancel and rebook, but there isn't anything for our dates anyway.

You can only book at resorts you own 8 - 11 months out, and only up to the number of points you own at that resort (plus any you bank or borrow). That is the advantage of owning at your home resort, and why people will encourage others to buy where they want to stay.

At 7 months, the booking window opens up for everyone. If you call in at 7 months, the only way you can "shift" your reservation points from one contract to the other is if that reservation is available to the general public. In essance, they are cancelling your current reservation, and rebooking with new points. They do this to be fair to those with home resort advantage, and also to maintain balance among all of the DVC resorts.

BUT I have a waitlist at BCV and requested using SSR points if those dates come thru. That seems ok.

At 7 months, any DVC member can book at any resort. That's why it isn't a problem to use your SSR points to waitlist BCV. What I don't know (that maybe someone else could answer) is if you have a current reservation at BLT using BLT points, can you waitlist at BLT using your SSR, and if it comes through, have them cancel the BLT reservation with BLT points? That may be an option for you without having to cancel your existing reservation.

They would use the SSR points and then shorten my days at BLT and return the points to my account. Why would I have to cancel and rebook at BLT, but at BCV it would be booked and then canceled the days at BLT?

Technically speaking, any time you have an existing reservation and want to book somewhere else, you are cancelling and rebooking. Had you called in and the BLT reservation been available, they would have used your SSR points to book it, and then turned around and cancelled your reservation using BLT points. The problem was, the reservation was not available. Same premise with BCV. If it opens up, they will use your SSR points to book it. Once that reservation is booked, they'll go back and cancel the days you told them to off of your BLT reservation (which is using your BLT points).

Also I was told if I wanted the waitlist until 31 days, I could use SSR points, but if I wanted until 7 days, then I would have to use BLT points?????? Is this something new, or a mistaken CM? Is doesn't make sense to me.

I think what the CM was trying to explain is you can waitlist for any resort up to 31 days before your vacation starts. At 31 days out, you have to call back in and tell them you want to stay on the waitlist. If that reservation comes through, they will honor it with your SSR points, and cancel your BLT reservation. However, at 7 days out, if the reservation does not come through, you're pretty much stuck with the reservation you have (at BLT using BLT points). At 7 days out, you can call in daily, but the likelihood of something opening up 7 days out is highly unlikely.

Hope that helps explain it. It's just how the system is set up, but fortunately, a lot of people on the boards have good luck with waitlisting!

 

[rlovew]

Just on the waitlist- the reason you have to use the BLT points to waitlist if you choose to waitlist until 7 days is that from 30 days to 7 days if you get Beach club and cancel the BLT your BLT points will go into holding. In order to keep that from happening if you choose to waitlist up till 7 days they will be using your BLT points for the waitlist. If you want you can choose to waitlist until 31 days with the SSR pooints and then change over the waitlist to your BLT points - from 7 months to 31 days it doesn't matter what points you use.

On the reservation- if they had another room available at BLT then you could book it at 7 months and then cancel your reservation (changing out your points) but they did not- which means if they changed out your poitns they are cheating out whomever is on the waitlist for your room of their home resort booking priority by allowing you to use SSR points to book the BLT room.

 

[jo-jo]

Thanks for all the replies.


I understand the point of I can't take room "a" (which I have) and just apply the SSR points. But I was told if room "b" was available, I'd first have to cancel room "a" and then book room "b". We've all heard stories in those two seconds both rooms disappear when the CM sneezed.

I do plan to call back time to time to see if something opens up.


Another question for the experts....

If my BLT dates are Dec 1 to Dec 10, what if the 4th and the 8th are available, should I be able to reallocate SSR for BLT? Or do I need the whole block?

 

[crisi]

Thanks for all the replies.


I understand the point of I can't take room "a" (which I have) and just apply the SSR points. But I was told if room "b" was available, I'd first have to cancel room "a" and then book room "b". We've all heard stories in those two seconds both rooms disappear when the CM sneezed.

I do plan to call back time to time to see if something opens up.


Another question for the experts....

If my BLT dates are Dec 1 to Dec 10, what if the 4th and the 8th are available, should I be able to reallocate SSR for BLT? Or do I need the whole block?

If you have enough SSR points, you can just book room B with your SSR points and then cancel room A.

You need the whole block.

 

[cvjw]

If you have enough SSR points, you can just book room B with your SSR points and then cancel room A.

You need the whole block.

That's how I do a reallocation at 7 months. I just book the reservation that I want with the points I am trying to use, and then cancel my existing reservation. You don't have to worry about those few minutes when one reservation is canceled, and your new reservation hasn't been made yet. You do have to have enough points to basically book your reservation twice though.

 

[jekjones1558]

If my BLT dates are Dec 1 to Dec 10, what if the 4th and the 8th are available, should I be able to reallocate SSR for BLT? Or do I need the whole block?

If Dec. 1 or 10 were available you could drop those dates from your original booking and rebook those two dates with your SSR points.