What if Republican Right fully implements agenda?

[eclectics]

Stretching the truth just a bit, there, aren't you?

1 - Liberals don't view the poor as deserving of their plight because they aren't "hard working". Your post says that conservatives do.

2 - Liberals want fair hiring practices. Everyone to have the chance to prove that they are the best candidate for a job. Your post says that conservatives disagree.

3 - Liberals want people to define morality for themselves, not have it imposed by some stick-up-the-*** right winger. Your post obviously disagrees.

4 - Liberals want people to be able to define for themselves who their family is, rather than some homophobic right wing windbag. Your post obviously says that you disagree. (Meaning you are the only one trying to force your morals on other people.)

5 - Liberals believe that the "right to life, liberty, et al" means that, if someone is sick, they should be able to receive medical care in this "great" country. We also don't view them as "lazy" because they can't afford to pay. You obviously feel differently, and apparently think that the only reason millions of Americans can't afford health insurance is that they just aren't worthy of it.

6 - Pick up a history book. Ever heard of the American Indian ? Ever heard of the Salem witch trials ? Ever heard of Joe McCarthy and his tirades against the "godless" communists ? Ever heard of the KKK (who lay claim to being a CHRISTIAN organization) ? We don't need to "change" history. It's all there in black and white.

7 - You're right..."Streamlining" executions doesn't do anything to "devalue" life.

8 - Liberals' biggest problem with Faux News isn't that they lean to the right. It's that they claim to be "fair and balanced", while doing nothing to question those in power and only presenting one side of ANY story (when they can be bothered, anyway). Aside from that, a NEWS organization can not be nothing more than a mouthpiece for the administration and still expect to be taken seriously (at least, not by anybody that knows anything at all about journalism).

In short...Thanks for proving my point

Yes, we liberals (and particularly the Democratic Party) have our problems. But a totalitarian world run by people who care more about their bank account than their fellow human beings (all while hypocritically calling themselves "Christians") is a nightmare George Orwell couldn't have described any better if he'd been living under the Bush administration.

I'm just waiting (with gleeful anticipation ) for Cheney to be indicted or watch him squirm and lie to get out of it. Of course it's all a left wing conspiracy!

HELP DEFEAT PROP 2 IN TEXAS!!!!!!!!!

 

[Puffy2]

The extreme of socialism is communism. This hasn't truly succeeded anywhere to my knowledge, with current communist regimes being rather diluted.

The extreme of conservatism is facism. This has worked before, but it's largely not a good thing - think Hitler and Saddam.

The extreme of liberalism is anarchy. This is also yet to succeed on any grand scale. I can't think of any examples.

Bottom line is, the only Governance that works is a mixture of the three.

Now that is an intelligent comment.

 

[wvrevy]

I'm just waiting (with gleeful anticipation ) for Cheney to be indicted or watch him squirm and lie to get out of it. Of course it's all a left wing conspiracy!

HELP DEFEAT PROP 2 IN TEXAS!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry...Fitzmas will be here before you know it

Delay...Frist...Rove..."Scooter" Libby...Now Cheney...Boy, I sure am glad that the Republicans are here to save us from that bad-old Clinton character and his lies about sex.

 

[wvrevy]

Now that is an intelligent comment.

Yes, it was. The sad part is that, while I agree with that sentiment, I find myself leaning further and further to the left in response to the current powers that be trying to drag this country as far to the right as it can. I'll be the first to admit that liberals do not have all the answers. But I'm 100% certain that I have no desire to live in the country that some of the posters on this thread would like to see the US become.

 

[AlanH]

It seems that for some reason many conservatives are nostalgic for the late 19th and early 20th century. They seem to want to turn back the clock to the ecomonic and tax policy of that period. Remember that this period was the age of the Robber Barons.

It has been shown that the disparity between upper and lower income groups is widening. Most ecomonists feel that too much concentration of wealth in the hands of the few is bad for the ecomony. Beyond that great wealth buys great power. The political consequence is a temptation for the wealthy to subvert the democratic process for their own ends. (and don't tell me that just because a person is wealthy he must be morally superior (after all that's why he's rich) and will do what is right.)

Therefore, it just seems to me we need a change in current tax and economic policy that will at least stop this trend and stop squeezing the middle class. I honestly don't think a flat tax or a national sales tax (which is a regressive tax) will do it.

Now is there a Bill Buckley out there who can present a rational argument?

Gee, guys and gals. No sooner than I post a reply on rational debate and we get an irrational post.

wvrevy: you could at least claim that you posted before my post. But shame on you jimmiej!

 

[jimmiej]

Stretching the truth just a bit, there, aren't you?

Not any more than your post on page 3.

1 - Liberals don't view the poor as deserving of their plight because they aren't "hard working". Your post says that conservatives do.

So should I have to subsidize lazy people? And you know they're out there.

2 - Liberals want fair hiring practices. Everyone to have the chance to prove that they are the best candidate for a job. Your post says that conservatives disagree.

Yeah, & you get to define "fair." Ever hear of "hiring quotas?"

3 - Liberals want people to define morality for themselves, not have it imposed by some stick-up-the-*** right winger. Your post obviously disagrees.

So everyone gets to make up their own rules? Sorry, we live in a civilization.

4 - Liberals want people to be able to define for themselves who their family is, rather than some homophobic right wing windbag. Your post obviously says that you disagree. (Meaning you are the only one trying to force your morals on other people.)

*See answer to #3.

5 - Liberals believe that the "right to life, liberty, et al" means that, if someone is sick, they should be able to receive medical care in this "great" country. We also don't view them as "lazy" because they can't afford to pay. You obviously feel differently, and apparently think that the only reason millions of Americans can't afford health insurance is that they just aren't worthy of it.

Conservatives believe EVERYONE is capable of greatness & self-sustanement (Is that a word?). Christians believe it is our responsibility to care for the sick & needy. Sadly & admittedly, we have let the government take over this duty. And a poor job it is doing...shame on us.

6 - Pick up a history book. Ever heard of the American Indian ? Ever heard of the Salem witch trials ? Ever heard of Joe McCarthy and his tirades against the "godless" communists ? Ever heard of the KKK (who lay claim to being a CHRISTIAN organization) ? We don't need to "change" history. It's all there in black and white.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

That's the (compassionate) America I live in. Your version of America sounds pretty (make up your own word here).

7 - You're right..."Streamlining" executions doesn't do anything to "devalue" life.

One word...ABORTION

8 - Liberals' biggest problem with Faux News isn't that they lean to the right. It's that they claim to be "fair and balanced", while doing nothing to question those in power and only presenting one side of ANY story (when they can be bothered, anyway). Aside from that, a NEWS organization can not be nothing more than a mouthpiece for the administration and still expect to be taken seriously (at least, not by anybody that knows anything at all about journalism).

Two words...Dan Rather

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I said it would be a BETTER place, which means comparatively better than it is right now, to me. I am already privileged to live in the greatest country on the planet, but that could make it better for me.

I'll be a happy camper either way, just happier if that were to happen!

I'll second that.

 

[AlanH]

Well it been several days since I asked for a rational explaination on why the agenda of the Republican Right is good for America. Not one taker. That speaks volumes to me.

So I guess the best course is to allow the estate tax to come back in 2011, adopt a more progressive income tax, and a single payer health system.