Well, I THOUGHT we would stay offsite this time...

HunnyPots

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but I am just not finding the incredible money-saving deals I expected to find. I can stay at a Disney value resort for $84 per night with my AAA discount and get free parking at the parks or use Disney transportation. That comes to $562 total for six nights. I haven't found anything offsite that will save me much once I pay $8-$10 every day to park plus the cost of extra gas for my van. :confused3
I know many of you stay offsite to get more space for the money and I understand that but I just wanted to save some money while staying at a comparable hotel. What am I doing wrong? Are the deals just not available yet? Oh - forgot to say, we are going June 4-10. Any help is appreciated!
 
the best deals are availability yet.

the skyauction one won't come up until May - if they come up at all...
 
It is kind of far out. I can tell you that I've never paid that to stay offsite per night- except in a pool home.
 
Since June is considered a peak time, the deals are not going to be much lower than they are right now. They could go down about 2-3 months before you travel, but nothing considerable I don't think.

I honestly don't think that any price difference is worth losing the "Disney feel" of a resort hotel. Sure there may be more room, sure it might be a little cheaper, but that is too much to pay for me to lose that Disney Magic. Just MHO>
 

HunnyPots said:
but I am just not finding the incredible money-saving deals I expected to find. I can stay at a Disney value resort for $84 per night with my AAA discount and get free parking at the parks or use Disney transportation. That comes to $562 total for six nights. I haven't found anything offsite that will save me much once I pay $8-$10 every day to park plus the cost of extra gas for my van. :confused3
I know many of you stay offsite to get more space for the money and I understand that but I just wanted to save some money while staying at a comparable hotel. What am I doing wrong? Are the deals just not available yet? Oh - forgot to say, we are going June 4-10. Any help is appreciated!

I don't think you're doing anything wrong...I think WDW is doing lots of things "better", ie, free transportation from the airport (and on property), an "all-inlcusive" feel to packages (dining and tickets), and still offering discounts to large groups (like AAA). JMHO, YMMV:)

I read once in the Unofficial Guide, that when WDW realized that people were going off property to play mini-golf...hello:) Mini-golf on property!

Like Kilee and Pat both said, it's still too far out to get any great, last minute type deals:) But never too early to book a great discount onsite:)

Keep that reservation, and start planning an awesome onsite trip!! LOL!

:sunny:
 
Every family is going to be different about whether staying on-site or off-site is the best value for them. I have an 11 and 12 year old boy and girl so they need separate beds - right there we need two rooms. Both of them would be considered adults for the dining package ($39 per day per kid...they don't eat that much!) I think one of our biggest expenses is food. If you rent offsite with a kitchen and you're close enough to the park you can eat 2 out of 3 of your meals there (or all meals if you're having a non-park day!). We ate two meals at the park (Epcot) yesterday and it cost us as much as the prior 6 days of eating two meals at the condo and lunch at the park!
 
You'll pay $63 in parking for 7 days; subtract that from your total, and that's the price you have to beat. And, if you have't found anything cheaper than $500 for your dates, you aren't looking very hard.

If all you care about is total price, it's easy to go lower than that. The hotels you find will not be anywhere nearly as nice as a Disney value resort, but they will be cheaper.

Example: hotelmartusa has the Hawaiian Maingate for your dates for a total of $246.

Expedia has 52 hotels for your dates less than $70 per night, many include breakfast, and all of them will save you at least a few dollars. Some of them might even be nice. On the other hand, you'll need a rental car at all of them, so if you would normally take a towncar and ride busses all week you're back to breaking even (or worse). Even with skyauction, best case, you're going to spend about $225. If you add a rental car to that (and you'll need one) and you would otherwise take ME plus Disney transportation, again, you're back to saving a few tens of dollars, tops.

The reason to stay offsite isn't to spend less in total. If you're happy with a Disney Value resort, and you don't mind busses, then they are very very hard to beat, particularly while ME is free. The reason to stay offsite is to dramatically upgrade your lodging without dramatically increasing the costs.

We travel with small kids, and absolutely require separate bedrooms. For almost exactly the price of a single Value-category room (after AAA discount) during our dates, we are getting a three bedroom/three bathroom townhouse, a 42-inch tv in the living room plus TVs in each bedroom, with premium movie channels and surround sound, a PS2 with a games library, a library of DVDs, a fully-equipped kitchen, private washer/dryer, high-speed wireless internet access, and a small private pool. The property also has a common free-form pool with waterslide and a hot tub, plus a fitness center, tennis courts, and a playground. It is offsite by all of 1.5 miles, and is 5 minutes to AK's parking lot, 12 minutes to MK's. We drive even when we stay on-property, so there is no additional cost.

If I wanted to even approximate that on WDW property, I'd need at least two Value rooms, which would cost me twice as much (and wouldn't have the kitchen, the waterslide, the hot tub, or the private pool. Oh, and high-speed networking is an extra $10/day.)

If I wanted 3BR lodging onsite, I'd need to buy about 500 DVC points at OKW, more at boardwalk or saratoga springs. The 2006 maintenance fees on 500 OKW points would be over $2000, or more than 2.5 times what I'm paying for the townhouse I'm renting, and that ignores the $37,000 and change I'd need to buy them in the first place.
 
Brian Noble said:
You'll pay $63 in parking for 7 days; subtract that from your total, and that's the price you have to beat. And, if you have't found anything cheaper than $500 for your dates, you aren't looking very hard.

If all you care about is total price, it's easy to go lower than that. The hotels you find will not be anywhere nearly as nice as a Disney value resort, but they will be cheaper.

Example: hotelmartusa has the Hawaiian Maingate for your dates for a total of $246.

Expedia has 52 hotels for your dates less than $70 per night, many include breakfast, and all of them will save you at least a few dollars. Some of them might even be nice. On the other hand, you'll need a rental car at all of them, so if you would normally take a towncar and ride busses all week you're back to breaking even (or worse). Even with skyauction, best case, you're going to spend about $225. If you add a rental car to that (and you'll need one) and you would otherwise take ME plus Disney transportation, again, you're back to saving a few tens of dollars, tops.

The reason to stay offsite isn't to spend less in total. If you're happy with a Disney Value resort, and you don't mind busses, then they are very very hard to beat, particularly while ME is free. The reason to stay offsite is to dramatically upgrade your lodging without dramatically increasing the costs.

We travel with small kids, and absolutely require separate bedrooms. For almost exactly the price of a single Value-category room (after AAA discount) during our dates, we are getting a three bedroom/three bathroom townhouse, a 42-inch tv in the living room plus TVs in each bedroom, with premium movie channels and surround sound, a PS2 with a games library, a library of DVDs, a fully-equipped kitchen, private washer/dryer, high-speed wireless internet access, and a small private pool. The property also has a common free-form pool with waterslide and a hot tub, plus a fitness center, tennis courts, and a playground. It is offsite by all of 1.5 miles, and is 5 minutes to AK's parking lot, 12 minutes to MK's. We drive even when we stay on-property, so there is no additional cost.

If I wanted to even approximate that on WDW property, I'd need at least two Value rooms, which would cost me twice as much (and wouldn't have the kitchen, the waterslide, the hot tub, or the private pool. Oh, and high-speed networking is an extra $10/day.)

If I wanted 3BR lodging onsite, I'd need to buy about 500 DVC points at OKW, more at boardwalk or saratoga springs. The 2006 maintenance fees on 500 OKW points would be over $2000, or more than 2.5 times what I'm paying for the townhouse I'm renting, and that ignores the $37,000 and change I'd need to buy them in the first place.

Ummm... I know I can find CHEAPER accomodations. What I said was, I would like to save on a COMPARABLE hotel, meaning something of the same quality but for a better price. I never said all I cared about was total price. If it were that simple I'd stay at Super 8 or Motel 6 and be done with it. But I do care. I want to stay in a clean, safe hotel with a reputation I can trust. I'm just saying that I've not been able to find this for a great deal less than a Disney value resort with the AAA discount.
 
I understand that. And I guess my response was "you aren't going to find what you are looking for."

If you don't want to go below the quality of a Disney Value resort, but don't really want or need any more amenities/facilities, then there isn't much reason to look offsite. You can get cheaper (but sacrifice quality), or you can get nicer (without paying much more). But, with the very rare exception, I don't believe you can get "cheaper" plus "as nice".

If I only wanted a room with two bug-free beds and a nearby pool, I'd stay at a Value resort, too!
 
Brian Noble said:
If I only wanted a room with two bug-free beds and a nearby pool, I'd stay at a Value resort, too!

Charming response... no, really...

:crazy2:
 
HunnyPots said:
Charming response... no, really...

:crazy2:

But an accurate one. If you are willing to stay in one room at a value resort then Disney is the best choice. They have a service culture that is vastly superior to any $40 a night hotel in Orlando and you get the benefit of that consistency for a small premium plus EMH, etc.

If you want to be pampered, you can stay at the Ritz in Grande Lakes and get much better service for half the price of the Grand Floridian.

If you want more bedrooms and a kitchen you can get a nice condo or house for the same price or less as the value resort and 1/10th the cost of DVC.

Cheap hotels are not worth the few dollars in savings. You would be much happier in a value if that is the quality of accomodation that you are happy with.
 
Sorry HunnyPots, that came out much worse than I intended. Let me try that again.

If I didn't need the separate bedroom or the resort amenities, and I wanted a clean place to stay, then the Disney Value resorts are clearly the best bang for the buck for the reasons PrincessDad mentions. For a couple or a family with older kids that's going to max out in the parks, you just can't beat a Value room.

If you want a separate bedroom, or more "stuff" to do around your lodging during downtime, then offsite can be a better value proposition than the moderates, and *much* better than the deluxes.

If I wasn't too particular about clean, and was really strapped for cash, I'd look at the offsite budget places. But, when I talk to people in this situation, I usually try to talk them into a Disney Value---the extra $100 or so is absolutely worth it for what you are getting---and, if that $100 makes or breaks the trip, I think that it's better to wait until you can save the extra $100, and go then.
 
I think it is quite possible to get a clean, safe room at a nearby offsite place for $20-$30/nite less than an onsite value. Even if you pay for parking every day of your stay, you still come out ahead. And personally, we only do 5 park days, so $45 for parking against about $175-$200 savings on the hotel. Gas really isn't an issue because driving onsite isn't necessarily shorter than the drive from offsite (we won't use Disney buses).

The last two trips, we used SkyAuction and paid $37/nite for a 2-bed, 2-bath condo unit. JMHO, but you simply can't compare that to the All Stars or Pop Century in terms of amenities and represents a savings more like $45-$50/nite, or $350 for the week.
 
have you looked at www.hotelplusportal.com I am going to be staying easter week (17th to 23rd) at Palms suites lakeside (old mainstay suites maingate) for $39 per night in a family studio with free breakfast - now you will still need the car but I had a friend stay there in Oct and she did say don't expect the ritz but great value for an un fancy no frills hotel. Michelle
 
Disneysteve - that sounds like an awesome deal you got! I have not used skyauction but I will check it out. When would you suggest for my dates in june? Is it a last-minute type thing for the best deals?
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and advice. I'm going to book the value through AAA and hold onto it in case nothing else comes along. I can always cancel if it does.:wizard:
 
HunnyPots said:
Disneysteve - that sounds like an awesome deal you got! I have not used skyauction but I will check it out. When would you suggest for my dates in june? Is it a last-minute type thing for the best deals?
I believe last minute is best with SkyAuction. But I did find this current auction for your dates:http://www.skyauction.com/action/offer/1100206

The current bid is $55. If you win, there are taxes and fees of $195 on top of the winning bid, for 7 nites in a 2-bedroom suite. I'd suggest watching that auction and see the final price. That should give you a good idea of what these things go for.

We've only used SkyAuction off-season when $260 for the week is the typical price. I'm guessing that it is more in June. Maybe spiceycat can tell you what you can expect to pay that time of year.
 
Have you looked into or considered priceline? We used them last year, got the Marriott Orlando World Center (very nice) for $83/night.

I used biddingfortravel.com to figure how to bid, because I was new to priceline.
 







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