We Have Agreed To Buy, Recourses?

[Azndjdude]

Mason Title is the only company we use. Cammie is incredible. You can ask to have 5K paid by credit card (deposit and/or deposit and final payment) WRITTEN into the agreement. You have to push this with some brokers, but do it when you make the offer and double check your paperwork. Air miles or cash back...it all counts!

Edit: Yes, you choose the title company and don't let the broker push their own title company.

I didn’t even know I could negotiate that, otherwise I would have. Dang it.

 

[arich35]

With 2 kids staying in a studio will get old quick, especially if you ever end up in a larger room. You may want to at least familiarize yourself with the points charts for the larger rooms when doing your math.

We have only stayed in 1 bedrooms so far so we know we will want to, luckily Old Key West 1 bedrooms are available often and for a low amount of points. But I think we will add on sooner than later

 

[arich35]

Can I ask why the Boulder Ridge resale price per point is so low?

 

[wnielsen1]

Can I ask why the Boulder Ridge resale price per point is so low?

Many reasons:

1. It only has 19-20 years left and does not have the advantages of some other 2042 resorts (specifically BWV/BCV walking proximity to 2 parks)
2. CCV is also located at the Lodge, and has about 45 years left on the contract
3. BRV is way overdue for a renovation
4. Disney is not active in acquiring points in ROFR

All of this said, I think BRV resale is one of the best values around if you can live with the 2042 expiration (vs. other 2042 resorts).

 

[DduzDis]

When looking at how many points to get, make sure you are not looking at the "value" rooms to determine how many points to get. Those rooms go REALLY fast at the 11 month mark (because lots of people want the cheapest rooms! ), so the likelihood of you getting one of those rooms is slim.

We have two contracts: one with an April UY and one with an August UY. We also travel in early may and early december (with some other trips during other times of the year). I like being able to book our stays for early in the UY. So we use our April points for our May trips and our August points for our December trips. That way, if things change and we have to cancel/move the trip, we don't have to deal with missing our banking deadline for those points. As long as we can cancel the trip within 31 days of the trip start date, we still have full, unrestricted use of those points.

We own at BLT and BWV. I like having these two as we like to do split stays for most of our trips. We do MK while we are at BLT and then HS/EP while we are at BWV. We usually do AK on move day since we have to take a bus there regardless of where we are staying. One of my goals on our WDW trips is to avoid using Disney buses as much as possible, so this approach works well for us. It might not work as well for you with the two kiddos, but it's something to keep in mind for future reference. Disney will move your luggage to your new resort for you, so it makes the transition pretty decent.

Good luck with your buying process!

We own at BWV and BLT as well and have been toying with the idea of a split stay. After reading this post, I took the idea home to DW and we decided our girls are old enough to be homeless for the move day (and skip naps). I modified our March reservation last night. Doing DAK on move day should work great. Thanks for the inspiration.

 

[sethschroeder]

There seem to be a pretty good amount of resale sites, which ones are more reputable and easier to work with? And is there an easier way to search for the type of contract you are looking for?

Any site you find on here listed is going to be good. Anyone not found on here do some research on. I would avoid the general timeshare sellers as they have lots of junk and hard to deal with.

The easiest way to search is simply decide on what contract you want like:
Boardwalk, September, 125-175 point range, want 2022 points

You then simply search all the sites and bookmark them. Some will bookmark your exact search and others you will need to search each time entering in the filters. Simply do that daily until you get an accepted offer on the contract you want.

So I am trying to decide what the best use year for us would be?

There is no right answer. The "research" will tell you at the start of when you could stay. It matters most when you bank/borrow points because you can't just bank them again and you would need to find another day to stay.

Honestly we like our April UY and we stay anywhere from June/July to September to December to January. Also know when you stay will change without you being able to prepare for it.

I would just simply avoid the 2-3 months before you likely will be traveling otherwise any UY is fair game since you need to bank points 4 months from your UY. Again though only helpful if you are not banking/borrowing point since once you do you can't bank them again.

probably between 75-125 (depending on the resort we go for)

75-125 will go very different lengths of time

Saratoga, Boardwalk, & Beach Club, staying in BLT

Things to look at:
Point charts (will you stay in Studios, 1BRs, 2BRs - as kid gets bigger might want separation)
Contract length (BW/BC expire in 2042 as an example but also are discounted because of it and possibly you sell in 10 years and buy something else or not)
MFs (you pay these yearly so resorts vary on what you pay in and adds up over time)

 

[RoseGold]

All of this said, I think BRV resale is one of the best values around if you can live with the 2042 expiration.

LOL, I think I only recommended it once, for someone who really wanted WL at Christmas and wanted to sleep 5, which CCV doesn't do in the studios.

I think it's terrible mathematical value. And, we don't talk about the renovation schedule. I mean, 14.57 instead of 11.36 is 28% more expensive. I'd pick Poly/CCV/BLT/SSR instead.

https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-spring-2022/

 

[DonMacGregor]

Many reasons:

1. It only has 19-20 years left and does not have the advantages of some other 2042 resorts (specifically BWV/BCV walking proximity to 2 parks)
2. CCV is also located at the Lodge, and has about 45 years left on the contract
3. BRV is way overdue for a renovation
4. Disney is not active in acquiring points in ROFR

All of this said, I think BRV resale is one of the best values around if you can live with the 2042 expiration.

All of this.

I'll be 78 years old in 2042, so yeah, that's not at the top of the list of issues for me. Monorail and Skyliner/EPCOT lobbies can become circuses due to easy access by non resort guests, so I'm happy with just boat access to MK. I've paid cash for all my BRV points and will get plenty of value out of them for the next 20 years. CCV is in the lodge, whereas BRV is in its own separate building (with that amazing lobby and Carolwood Pacific Room) and the spa. CCV feels like converted hotel rooms (sort of like BPK at VGF), especially with those funky galley kitchens. BRV is definitely WAY overdue for a refurb, but it will get one. Disney is (fingers crossed) not looking to grab any BRV points right now (I have a contract in ROFR right now).

 

[wnielsen1]

LOL, I think I only recommended it once, for someone who really wanted WL at Christmas and wanted to sleep 5, which CCV doesn't do in the studios.

I think it's terrible mathematical value. And, we don't talk about the renovation schedule. I mean, 14.57 instead of 11.36 is 28% more expensive. I'd pick Poly/CCV/BLT/SSR instead.

https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-spring-2022/

I was only taking it into consideration vs other 2042 resorts (only in my head, because I obviously didn't state it). And you were correct to point out the resorts that have the great combination of longer duration and reasonable resale price.

I personally do not consider resale for resorts extending past 2042, as after that date resale contracts will lose a lot of flexibility (assuming Disney continues on their path vs. resale). I also plan on holding long enough to make it worthwhile. I've found what works for me. Others have different thoughts and timelines and that's fine too.

 

[arich35]

If we aren't in a rush to get a contract right away would buying from an International Seller be recommended?

 

[DduzDis]

If we aren't in a rush to get a contract right away would buying from an International Seller be recommended?

We certainly didn't go into with that in mind on purpose, but both of our resale contracts sailed through (several years ago mind you) and both were with Int'l sellers. There has been chatter that Int'l contracts don't get ROFR'd, but I don't know if there is any data to support that notion. Also, I am not sure how you would be able to screen for that unless you were working with a broker who might be able to do it without breaking any kind of confidentiality requirements.

 

[arich35]

We certainly didn't go into with that in mind on purpose, but both of our resale contracts sailed through (several years ago mind you) and both were with Int'l sellers. There has been chatter that Int'l contracts don't get ROFR'd, but I don't know if there is any data to support that notion. Also, I am not sure how you would be able to screen for that unless you were working with a broker who might be able to do it without breaking any kind of confidentiality requirements.

We found one that has what we are looking for that has it listed in the description. I am wondering how low is too low for Saratoga contract at 175 points

 

[DduzDis]

We found one that has what we are looking for that has it listed in the description. I am wondering how low is too low for Saratoga contract at 175 points

I'd look at the ROFR page to get a handle on what has been passing vs being taken and formulate a plan from there.

 

[pangyal]

If we aren't in a rush to get a contract right away would buying from an International Seller be recommended?

It’s not unheard of for an international contract to be taken in ROFR, but the odds are in your favour to get one through. Unfortunately, the brokers (and, by proxy, their sellers) have caught wind of the interest in international contracts for this reason and are using this as a marketing tool alongside raising the price for these contracts. It’s up to you to decide the level of patience and commitment you are willing to put into the ROFR process; some of us went through five or six iterations of a contract before one “got through”. At one to two months per contract ROFR cycle, the time spent does add up, but if you’re not in a rush and can deal with starting the process over, you don’t necessarily have to focus on international sellers and their associated increase in recent pricing. Good luck with your search !

 

[NVDISFamily]

Not sure if I'm allowed to share this link but this site to view contracts on the market by property and use year is great. Helped me find all of the contracts I've made offers on so far

Edit - It's not allowed. I think I found it on the other forum hosted by the board owner but I can't remember.

We just watched tons of YouTube videos including the ones from Pete and his crew at DVCFan and others that were super helpful. Looking at the ROFR boards are also great as you can see what contracts are going for and what is being bought back (although this is just a small subset of the market that posts here I'm sure).

Best of luck on finding what works for you and the family.