WDW Resorts go Smoke Free

[mitros]

I kinda understand why DIS is closing all the smoking threads. We can't take all the DRAMA about a little smoke in your nose ANY LONGER.

PLEASE

NO MORE DRAMA, BUY NOSE PLUGS, STAY HOME,

YOUR NOT WELCOME HOME ANYMORE

How does that feel? Do you like it.


John / Texas

Uhh...... calm down pal.

 

[GFDiNB]

As I clearly stated I travel with someone who smokes or were you so wrapped up in your narrow mindedness to catch that? I don't hate anyone, if I feel anything it's pity on folks so wrapped up in themselves and there own ideas that they lash out at others. Chill out my friend, I wish some happy medium could be reached but the are much more important things in life to spend my time on rather than wether or not I can smoke in my room; besides the fresh air will do us all good.

 

[SnackyStacky]

I kinda understand why DIS is closing all the smoking threads. We can't take all the DRAMA about a little smoke in your nose ANY LONGER.

PLEASE

NO MORE DRAMA, BUY NOSE PLUGS, STAY HOME,

YOUR NOT WELCOME HOME ANYMORE

How does that feel? Do you like it.


John / Texas

I shouldn't get into this....BUT....

Do what you want to yourself. I don't care. It's your business, it's your body. But I have every right to breathe clean air. I shouldn't HAVE to change anything because of a behavior you CHOOSE to practice.

I agree with All Aboard. I've got no problem with smokERS. It's the smokING that I have a problem with.

Based on that, let's make some slight corrections:

INstead of:
NO MORE DRAMA, BUY NOSE PLUGS, STAY HOME,

YOUR NOT WELCOME HOME ANYMORE

How about:

NO MORE DRAMA, WE'VE SET ASIDE A PARTICULAR PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SMOKE WITHOUT NON-SMOKERS BOTHERING YOU, COME ANYTIME, YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE, BUT SMOKING IS NOT

 

[G8RFAN]

We recently came back from a trip to Europe. I was surprised at how restrictive they were in Italy in regards to smoking. Many indoor eating establishment and hotel had no smoking signs. France and the UK were much more tolerant of smokers in enclosed spaces. I do feel that the argument that such a policy will hurt WDW with the foreign tourists is a bit overblown and probably will not be much of an impact. I think Disney is heading down a path that will eventually become the standard, if not legislated. However, I do think that we have become so tort conscious as a society that we feel that we have right to be unimpeded in life without fear of harm. If someone is smoking in a designated smoking area and the smoke drifts in my direction, I'll move, just like I'll move if the person near me has the flu and is sneezing and coughing. We live in a society with other people and we have to deal with each other either confrontationaly or amicably. Your karma determines the path you take. The one thing I would suggest of Disney resorts is to put the smoking areas away from the front entrance. When you have a gathering of smokers right there, there is really no way for anyone to navigate into the resort without walking through it.

 

[disneyfan67]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'll say,

"Please keep your death-dealing cancer stick away from my children. It is an outdated device of ignorance and personal weakness that has no place in the modern, civilized world. We hide guns, liquor and sex from our children until they are old enough to understand the hazards involved. Your weapon of self-destruction and carrier of disease to all around you falls in the same category. If you feel strongly about ‘making a statement’ in front of families, a red t-shirt with the inscription ‘ASK ME ABOUT EMPHYSEMA’ in large friendly letters will work just as well until you are forced to carry around a twenty pound bottle of oxygen or have to breathe through a plastic nozzle in your neck (now that's a statement). Until then, please just thank me for paying double for my health insurance so wheezing dimwits don’t have to suffer the full cost of their own irresponsibility. Please enjoy the rest of your visit to Walt Disney World."

Very well done.

I think that it sums the debate up very well and this section of your post really stood out and caught my attention.

It is an outdated device of ignorance and personal weakness that has no place in the modern, civilized world.

That quote of yours should be printed on T Shirts and sold everywhere. I'm going to start using that saying. I'm a guy who doesn't really care what people do in the privacy of their homes/rooms, but smokers are forcing me to become something I don't want to be. My policy used to be that as long as I don't have to pay for it, clean up after it, and it doesn't involve kids or animals, do what ever harmful things you want to, but just do it at home.

There is a good chance that in a few years that some form of National health care plan will be implemented and if it is, we will be paying for all the problems smoking creates. I see smoking going away in the next 2 decades and just look how much rules have changed in the last 20 years. I don't want to infringe on peoples rights, but having grown up around smokers for the past 40 years, I've seen my fair share of damage that smoking provides. Like you said AV, it's an outdated device and we will be a better and healthier nation once it goes away.

 

[MasterShake]

You can't blame smelling smoke on what's wrong with you people. I bet you all hate everybody for everything. You people should not even be out in the public. You make me Sick, Sick, Sick. You get more smoke from a bus going by. Get over it.

John/Texas

LOL

I guess what it comes down to is, why should anyone have to be inconvenienced by your habit? While I doubt that I will have any lasting health issues by the very minimal second hand smoke I get from others, I don't want to have to smell it. It gets in your hair/clothes and if you have to stand near someone that is smoking it is uncomfortable. How would you feel if someone was whizzing rocks past your head? None are hurting you, but I bet it would annoy you.

At some point you are going to rely on your health provided to pay your doctors bills and the costs will be passed onto the rest of us. We'll all be paying a little for your cancer treatment and your oxygen tank.

If you could smoke without inconveniencing me, my kids, or my wallet I would be fine with it. You can't, so I guess you will have to be a little more inconvenienced while at Disney when you’ re enjoying your addiction.

 

[skoi]

We recently came back from a trip to Europe. I was surprised at how restrictive they were in Italy in regards to smoking. Many indoor eating establishment and hotel had no smoking signs. France and the UK were much more tolerant of smokers in enclosed spaces. I do feel that the argument that such a policy will hurt WDW with the foreign tourists is a bit overblown and probably will not be much of an impact. I think Disney is heading down a path that will eventually become the standard, if not legislated.

When we were in Germany in January, there was a big buzz about the EU planning to implement a total ban on all smoking in public, and pressure businesses, etc to do the same. So it seems that even Western Europe is going this way.

 

[clkelley]

I've got a strange feeling the "smoking" surcharge is way too low. When someone spends between $5,000 and $15,000 on a Disney vacation, what is another $500. I did ask Disney, and they said that the fee is per reservation, not per incident.

I can just see that some smokers when told about the policy and fee, will just say, charge me the fee, cause I am going to smoke in the room.

I am a smoker, but will not smoke in the room, never have. Have always happily gone to designated areas. However, the new policy will forever preclude me from staying at deluxe or DVC resorts with inside hallways. Just won't do it.

Oh, they also said that smoking will still be allowed at individual campsites outside at Ft. Wilderness, and on the porches of the Cabins at Ft. Wilderness.

 

[sammi6]

Probably a stupid question, but I can't remember are you allowed to smoke in the parks? Are there designated areas there? I am not a smoker, but my father is and we are going in October.

 

[EUROPACL]

Probably a stupid question, but I can't remember are you allowed to smoke in the parks? Are there designated areas there? I am not a smoker, but my father is and we are going in October.

Proof that people don't read the threads before they post.


From the first post.

Additionally, in January 2000 the Walt Disney World Resort theme and water parks became smoke-free with smoking allowed in designated smoking areas only.

 

[MasterShake]

 

[crazy4wdw]

Proof that people don't read the threads before they post.

Was this comment really necessary?

 

[EUROPACL]

Was this comment really necessary?

You are correct it is redundant.

 

[mickyzzzzz05]

Proof that people don't read the threads before they post.


From the first post.

Wow! That was friendly! Hope your day gets better soon.

 

[sdrsdd]

I am so glad to hear this...I do not like to see people smoking around children anyway. Maybe more and more places will follow suit! Thanks Disney for doing the right thing!!

 

[Dreamfinder2]

It's June 2 and the new policy is in effect. I wonder how it's going ... I'd be interested in hearing some current intel.

 

[DVCconvert]

I can just see that some smokers when told about the policy and fee, will just say, charge me the fee, cause I am going to smoke in the room.

It's a fact that will happen.

Oh, they also said that smoking will still be allowed at individual campsites outside at Ft. Wilderness, and on the porches of the Cabins at Ft. Wilderness

Pretty hypocritical, isn't it?

 

[Mickey'sApprentice]

O.K., I took a big trip to BWV with extended familly in mid-April.

DSIS and DBIL both smoke CONSTANTLY.

Our reservation was for a 2 bdrm non-smoking villa and a smoking studio for DSIS, DBIL, and DNiece8.

DISNEY gave DSIS a non-smoking room and told them they could smoke on the balcony. Since DSIS was told they could smoke on the balcony at their studio, they understood that they could smoke on the balcony of the 2 bedroom.

Long story short, DSIS & DBIL tend to get an attitude with the smoking, and we were in full keep the peace mode, and knew they would pull DNiece8 out of WDW because DSIS and DBIL couldn't smoke. Yada yada yada...I wanted to pull my hair out.

Result: Disney had both a studio and a 2 bedroom at BWV with smoking on the balcony. DSIS may have even smoked in their studio as they were ticked at Disney. Not sure.

DSIS also complained that the smoking areas within the parks were much too far apart, and hard to find.

We came home and Disney immediately changed the smoking policy.

Gee, I hope it was just a coincidence. Although I can take some blame for all of the smoking, IMO, much more blame goes to my smoking relatives and to Disney.

I had planned for them to smoke in their smoking studio and only in their smoking studio, and could not easily be stricter than Disney.

 

[mitros]

O.K., I took a big trip to BWV with extended familly in mid-April.

DSIS and DBIL both smoke CONSTANTLY.

Our reservation was for a 2 bdrm non-smoking villa and a smoking studio for DSIS, DBIL, and DNiece8.

DISNEY gave DSIS a non-smoking room and told them they could smoke on the balcony. Since DSIS was told they could smoke on the balcony at their studio, they understood that they could smoke on the balcony of the 2 bedroom.

Long story short, DSIS & DBIL tend to get an attitude with the smoking, and we were in full keep the peace mode, and knew they would pull DNiece8 out of WDW because DSIS and DBIL couldn't smoke. Yada yada yada...I wanted to pull my hair out.

Result: Disney had both a studio and a 2 bedroom at BWV with smoking on the balcony. DSIS may have even smoked in their studio as they were ticked at Disney. Not sure.

DSIS also complained that the smoking areas within the parks were much too far apart, and hard to find.

We came home and Disney immediately changed the smoking policy.

Gee, I hope it was just a coincidence. Although I can take some blame for all of the smoking, IMO, much more blame goes to my smoking relatives and to Disney.

I had planned for them to smoke in their smoking studio and only in their smoking studio, and could not easily be stricter than Disney.

Maybe it's just me, but I could not fully understand every aspect of your post, but I'll just say, that if they smoked in a room that they were not supposed to , I hope that they have to pay the full cleaning charge to get the room back in pristine condition..........

 

[michygoomy]

Just got off the phone with POP. They said there are two DSAs:

1.) Near the pool bar
2.) Off a walkway to the main building