Venting about complainers!!!!!

[tony67]

I think every hometown in the USA has at least one or two "decent" restaurants. I find it hard to believe that there are hometowns where EVERYTHING sucks ...Can anyone whose hometown doesn't have at least one decent place to eat please verify? I find this claim to be kind of ...

I've been to town where Pizza Hut is listed as fine dinning..so yeah it's possible..

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Is it a Canadian Steak house? Yes American version have other cheeses - but this is a restaurant meant to represent Canadian cuisine..and is supposedly a signature restaurant...so yeah I'd expect curds..I'm guessing Jean Georges would as well....

Huh?

FWIW, I've never seen a poutine on the menu of a real Canadian steakhouse. So there's that.

NOTHING about this is like a real poutine... truffles? Wine reduction? Nope. Even the fries are different. And it's still tasty. And I don't feel deceived since they never said it was straight out of Montreal. It's their OWN "Le Cellier Signature Poutine".

At least they're using Canadian Cheddar...

Le Cellier Signature Poutine
Fresh-cut French Fries, Canadian Cheddar, Truffles, Red Wine Reduction​

 

[Allison]

I've been to town where Pizza Hut is listed as fine dinning..so yeah it's possible..

I agree. In rural communities it can very well be true.

 

[keahgirl8]

I'm honestly not a "fine dining" person, at home or on vacation. Maybe that's why I don't think Disney food is bad. lol

 

[Churchladychurchlady]

I agree. In rural communities it can very well be true.

Yup. Where my dad lives in WV (not trying to dis all of WV, but it sure is rural in some parts), the best restaurant is Hardees. I've never had what I'd consider "bad" pizza, but the Pizza Hut in that town gave us a very bad experience... left a weird taste in my mouth for days.

 

[GaryDis]

I made the mistake of getting Pizza Hut at Target the other night, first time I years, and now I remember why. I think it might have come close to a tomato once, in transit. It can best be described as an open faced grilled cheese on thick bread.

I don't think you need to be a connoisseur to recognize really bad food: foods served cold when they should be hot, rice or burgers that are dried out, main ingredients gone AWOL (e.g. a single tiny piece of chicken in chicken stew), etc. But even that can be tricky, as some people will insist that a slight bit of charring is unacceptably burnt food, while others like the flavor.

 

[keahgirl8]

I made the mistake of getting Pizza Hut at Target the other night, first time I years, and now I remember why. I think it might have come close to a tomato once, in transit. It can best be described as an open faced grilled cheese on thick bread.

I don't think you need to be a connoisseur to recognize really bad food: foods served cold when they should be hot, rice or burgers that are dried out, main ingredients gone AWOL (e.g. a single tiny piece of chicken in chicken stew), etc. But even that can be tricky, as some people will insist that a slight bit of charring is unacceptably burnt food, while others like the flavor.

I totally agree with this. That being said, I've never encountered any of those things. Maybe I've just been lucky.

 

[tony67]

Huh?

FWIW, I've never seen a poutine on the menu of a real Canadian steakhouse. So there's that.

NOTHING about this is like a real poutine... truffles? Wine reduction? Nope. Even the fries are different. And it's still tasty. And I don't feel deceived since they never said it was straight out of Montreal. It's their OWN "Le Cellier Signature Poutine".

At least they're using Canadian Cheddar...

Le Cellier Signature Poutine
Fresh-cut French Fries, Canadian Cheddar, Truffles, Red Wine Reduction​

Well...I also doubt many Canadian Steakhouses would have so few steak options..

If you call it poutine I'd expect curds...that's all. never said i was deceived..never said it didn't sound good

I have had numerous re interpretations of Poutine - I have no issue with that.
Lobster Poutine, General tao's Poutine, Duck Confit poutine...and the one thing that makes them a Poutine is the curds - without curds it is just cheese fries...so call them cheese fries - thats what they are

Didn't feel the need to bring up fact they don't use proper chips...I can even get past that as long as it has curds.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Well...I also doubt many Canadian Steakhouses would have so few steak options..

If you call it poutine I'd expect curds...that's all. never said i was deceived..never said it didn't sound good

I have had numerous re interpretations of Poutine - I have no issue with that.
Lobster Poutine, General tao's Poutine, Duck Confit poutine...and the one thing that makes them a Poutine is the curds - without curds it is just cheese fries...so call them cheese fries - thats what they are

Didn't feel the need to bring up fact they don't use proper chips...I can even get past that as long as it has curds.

Wow are you a cheese curd fan!!! LOL!!

Look -- the cheese curds are my favorite part -- I get that. My parents used to bring me bags of it when they visited me in the states so that I could make poutine at home. Love it.

I've just seen all manner of things on menus in recent years call themselves poutine and be nothing like it, so it doesn't surprise me. And like I said -- this is not even a menu item at a steakhouse. Just like it wasn't there at all in WDW until more recently.

The BEST poutine in Montreal is purchased at little hole-in-the-wall places, stands, mall food courts, etc -- truly. The closest to upscale is "Montreal Poutine", like their location in Old Montreal. If you're a real poutine fan, plan a visit there -- you won't regret it!!!

Inspiration to visit...

 

[disneyfav4ever]

I value honest opinions. I'm sure almost anyone from Philly would agree with me that cheesesteaks in Disney are pretty horrible, but it may taste good to others.

 

[Corbinator]

For me, I like to try different things on vacation, so in that respect, I wouldn't order a lobster roll (I live just north of Boston). I would be more likely to order conch fritters!

Funny thing is, my mother is a Florida resident and I live up north. Last time I went on vacation in FL I ordered conch chowder and my mom was horrified! She says conch is terrible and why wouldn't I eat something better? I had no idea. I thought I was being authentic and eating locally caught.

 

[Tiggerette]

Today I was reading some rather humorous and pointed critique of the recent Disney "healthy gumbo" recipe put on a Disney-sponsored facebook page. The recipe critique was so biting that the recipe was inaccurate to gumbo, though accurate to soup that Disney pulled it. My favorite complaint, as it would be termed on this thread, was that the recipe should have been called "California (gentrification) Gumbo." California Gumbo would speak directly to the layers of culinary appropriation. I was so tickled that there was a real life application of our discussion, in a disney context no less.

In chatting with DH about why I don't enjoy a corporation assigning the wrong name for profit., I found another rather grossly broad example. To me, it's akin to reading the menu offers Sandwich and Fries, but what you really get is a Sandwich and Tater Tots. Yes, fries and tater tots are bite-sized, fried/baked potato sides, but they're not identical. Imagine, in a widely hypothetical context that someone's only experience of "French Fries" are actually Tater Tots. It's that type of "mis-representation" that makes me feel insightful information about certain foods (like beignets, poutine, etc) can be helpful for folks who want that context.

Anyways, it was quite amusing to read today. Some of the responses were pretty witty with their critiques.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Today I was reading some rather humorous and pointed critique of the recent Disney "healthy gumbo" recipe put on a Disney-sponsored facebook page. The recipe critique was so biting that the recipe was inaccurate to gumbo, though accurate to soup that Disney pulled it. My favorite complaint, as it would be termed on this thread, was that the recipe should have been called "California (gentrification) Gumbo." California Gumbo would speak directly to the layers of culinary appropriation. I was so tickled that there was a real life application of our discussion, in a disney context no less.

In chatting with DH about why I don't enjoy a corporation assigning the wrong name for profit., I found another rather grossly broad example. To me, it's akin to reading the menu offers Sandwich and Fries, but what you really get is a Sandwich and Tater Tots. Yes, fries and tater tots are bite-sized, fried/baked potato sides, but they're not identical. Imagine, in a widely hypothetical context that someone's only experience of "French Fries" are actually Tater Tots. It's that type of "mis-representation" that makes me feel insightful information about certain foods (like beignets, poutine, etc) can be helpful for folks who want that context.

Anyways, it was quite amusing to read today. Some of the responses were pretty witty with their critiques.

That is amusing! I must admit, though, part of me just cannot believe that with everything going on in the country and the world today, THIS is what gets some people all riled up!!! In that context, all seems like much ado about nothing.

 

[Churchladychurchlady]

Don't get me started on appropriated foods... I'm from Buffalo.

 

[tony67]

That is amusing! I must admit, though, part of me just cannot believe that with everything going on in the country and the world today, THIS is what gets some people all riled up!!! In that context, all seems like much ado about nothing.

This is my distraction from that since there is no discussion of politics on here.....

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Funny thing is, my mother is a Florida resident and I live up north. Last time I went on vacation in FL I ordered conch chowder and my mom was horrified! She says conch is terrible and why wouldn't I eat something better? I had no idea. I thought I was being authentic and eating locally caught.

In not a native Floridian, but we've lived here a couple decades. We really like conch. This is one reason I don't put much stock in where someone lives or where they're from, as far as reviews go.

 

[rwdavis2]

I agree. In rural communities it can very well be true.

It's very true in my hometown in western PA.

 

[BarbieGal457]

I value honest opinions. I'm sure almost anyone from Philly would agree with me that cheesesteaks in Disney are pretty horrible, but it may taste good to others.

It's funny, I was preparing to say this exactly. I'm from the heart of Philadelphia and whenever I've had a cheesesteak in my travels, they just aren't like the "originals" back home. Does that mean it doesn't taste great to others? Not at all, it just doesn't taste that great to this Philadelphian. Keep in mind though, us Philadelphians can't even decide on who makes the best cheesesteak in our city! If I am not impressed with something, I won't sugarcoat it but I also do always try to encourage people to try something before they make up their mind, and don't take my opinion for gospel. I just won't lie and say "yep that Disney cheesesteak is great!" when in my seasoned cheesesteak opinion, it isn't.

I also feel this way about almost every morsel of Italian in Disney too, as where I live is heavily, heavily old school Italian. I will be honest when I say "yes, that spaghetti really isn't that great" (I'm looking at you, Tony's...) but I also would never think to tell others they wouldn't/shouldn't like it, etc.

 

[SurferStitch]

When I mention there are no good crab cakes at WDW, I am only trying to save people from themselves who might THINK they are getting the real thing.

I do agree tho that if regional fare is actually new to somebody at WDW, they may well like what they get and not know any different.

So when someone says the crab cakes at Narcoosee's were great, they might really believe it--

So a 100% crab, no filler, well seasoned crab cake at Narcoossee's and Flying fish isn't the real thing? I mean, they were almost falling apart because of the huge chunks of meat and no filler. I've had "real" crab cakes in Maryland, Boston and NYC, and at excellent places at home, and they are all loaded with big pieces of jumbo lump crab meat and seasoned nicely (no filler or bread or anything like that). Sure, each place (including Disney) will use their own seasonings and such, but I'm pretty sure I know what a real crab cake is, and I've had them in Disney. Even the Captain's Grille had a pretty great crab cake the one time we had dinner there.

I feel bad for the OP... she's getting slammed for her opinion. I hear PLENTY of people complain that Disney food is mediocre at best, but we've had excellent food over the past 20 years.... from V&A down to CS.... DH and I are foodies, but we're also realists. I don't expect or need a Kobe burger in the MK for lunch. I don't need a pound of lobster in a $13 sandwich (nor do I expect it).

We're looking forward to our dinners next month at V&A, Narcoossee's, Cali Grill, Flying Fish, Citricos, Biergarten, La Hacienda, Boathouse, Skipper Canteen, STK Orlando and Nine Dragons. I'm also looking forward to breakfasts at Grand Flo Café, Kona and 'Ohana. We're just as excited about CHH, Plaza, Daily Poutine, beignets at POFQ, etc. We love fine dining, but we also love quick service. I don't expect abalone at Narcoossee's, I don't expect blowfish at Flying Fish. And really, there's only so many ways you can prepare a filet mignon!

And, yes.... I look forward to the crab cakes.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Sorry SurferStich--what is available at WDW crabcake wise is NOT the real thing!!!

Anyone from Maryland would tell you so.

I've had them at Narcoosee's AND Flying Fish and Fultons (just once at all 3 places) and they are not the real deal.

PS Go online at Casa Mia restaurant or Pappas restaurant or Conrads or Mo's in Baltimore and order one--they ship all over. You will see what I mean!!!