Vent: Bad Customer Service

MomToOne

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OK, I admit this is just a major vent. Sadly, this seems typical these days, I have far more experiences with cruddy customer service than I do with good or even just acceptable customer service.

On Sunday, I purchased a dress online for DD15 for their homecoming dance this weekend. Yes, I was late to the party because DD was hemming and hawing about was she going to go or not. Since I was on a short-time frame, however, I went to the Shoprunner site to identify stores that would ship in 2 days using Shoprunner for free. (That's my tie to the budget board - I wanted rush shipping for free as a good budgeter!) I discovered BonTon had joined the service, so I went to their website and found a dress. When I added it to my cart, it said expected delivery would be Wednesday with Shoprunner. Great! Then when I actually got to check out it said Thursday. Not as great, not sure why it changed, but it was still do-able, so OK! So I bought the dress.

On Tuesday morning, I got notification from FedEx that a shipment had been created. Perfect - it should be delivered on Thursday as promised since it shipped 2 day, right? Nope - when I checked the shipment information, BonTon had created the shipment for FedEx Home instead of FedEx 2 day and it won't arrive until next week. FedEx had not picked up the shipment yet, so I immediately called BonTon. After 15 minutes on hold, I get through. The customer service agent first tells me "there's nothing we can do after it ships" so I say "But it hasn't shipped - you still have the package!" Her response - "There's still nothing we can do". COMPLETE lack of concern over the issue and complete unwillingness to attempt any resolution. So I tell her "Since it wasn't shipped appropriately, how about sending me out a replacement shipment next day at your expense." She fumbles around and then tells me the dress is out of stock. And then she further tells me that they "just deliver the package to Shoprunner, Shoprunner then ships it. They made the mistake - contact them". So I spend half a day trying to contact someone at Shoprunner. First CSR there tries to tell me even though FedEx is saying the package was shipped using FedEx Home and won't be delivered until next week, it will in fact magically make it half way cross country to me in 2 days because I am "near a warehouse". Huh???? Ugh - clearly a fool with no idea what she was talking about. So I attempt email with them - after a bit of back and forth, I finally get a CSR who isn't a complete idiot, and tells me flat out "Shoprunner pays for the shipment, but doesn't do any of the shipping or generate the labels - the retailer does that. Take the problem up with them."

Ping pong at it's best. The art of customer service is clearly dead.

So DD and I run out last night and frantically shop for a dress.

Come this morning, to add insult to injury, I discover BonTon is still selling the same dress I bought on their website and showing it in stock, contrary to what the CSR there told me yesterday. So I get back on the phone and demand to talk to a Supervisor. 20 minutes later I get one on the line and fill her in on the misinformation I received from the CSR I talked to yesterday - both about how they give the package to Shoprunner, and how the item was supposedly out of stock. The Supervisor proceeds to tell me how sorry she is about all that, but first - can I tell her who I talked to yesterday? Of course I can't, so I say "I presume your call log will show that", to which she doesn't reply. Then she tells me the item is out of stock - so I say it is still being sold on the website, with the message "5 items left". She tells me that's an error and she'll forward it onto someone to address that; and is there anything else she can help with? I say "what do you mean is there anything ELSE you can help me with. You haven't helped me at all yet. So far you've only asked me to help you by giving agent names and such." Yes, I was frustrated, but the complete lack of care or concern - other than a obviously well rehearsed but empty "I'm sorry for the issue" - was astounding me. I continue on to say I've spent hours dealing with this issue and don't want to have to deal with it anymore, so I want them to recall the FedEx shipment and give me an immediate refund. I know it is absolutely possible for shippers to recall package. But the supervisor refuses, saying "we can't do that". Umm..yes, it can be done. She repeats they can't. I ask her to contact their shipping department and see if they can do it. She refuses and just says they can't. And she then proceeds to try and blame FedEx for the problem because "her system" says it went out 2 day shipping!! I ask her to check the tracking number on the FedEx site and she will see it didn't. She ignores me when I say that (despite asking her to do it multiple times). She just repeats HER SYSTEM says it went out 2 day, and it must be FedEx'es fault. I say I saw the electronic shipping information Bon-Ton sent to FedEx before FedEx ever had the package, so I know Bon-Ton was the one that messed it up. She just repeats that her system says it went out 2 day. Hopeless!!! So finally I say I have no use for the dress, you won't recall the shipment, so just give me a refund and I'll donate the item when it gets here - quite frankly, I shouldn't have to worry about having to waste yet MORE of my time on by taking it back to a shipping place for a return. She says flat out she won't do that. But hey, she'll give me a 25% discount on the order. The order that we can't use because it is late. So I should pay 75% for an item I don't need. I pointed out the stupidity of that to her. She then offered a trivial 15% discount on a "future order". From a store that regularly puts out discount codes for 50% or more. Really?

UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I give up. Won't be shopping Bon-Ton anymore.
 
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Where does FedEx say the package is now? Often, they'll use the ground service it if will still be delivered in the timeframe promised. If they're shipping across the country, then they obviously need to ship it 2-day, but if it's just coming from one state over, ground will be just as quick.
 
Where does FedEx say the package is now? Often, they'll use the ground service it if will still be delivered in the timeframe promised. If they're shipping across the country, then they obviously need to ship it 2-day, but if it's just coming from one state over, ground will be just as quick.

Nope, its not nearby, it's coming half way cross country. It was still in the state it started from as of this morning, when it was last scanned. Estimated FedEx delivery date is Tuesday (FedEx Home, while it delivers on Saturdays, does not deliver on Mondays). The FedEx delivery estimates are almost always right in my experience, if anything the delivery may run a day or two later, not earlier. My local FedEx depot will actually hold the deliveries if it gets to them before the estimated delivery date.

Shoprunner - at least the CSR who actually knew something - has agreed that the shipment was messed up, and there is no hope that it will get to me in time.
 
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Are you just assuming it won't be there until next week or is that what the tracking is telling you? A ground package can totally make it somewhere in 2-3 days.
 

I'm sorry. :( This kind of thing always happens to me. In fact, it's happening to me right now with an Amazon "Prime" package...that is taking 8 days to arrive -- they changed the delivery date on me once the first date came and went...ugh.

Hopefully by some miracle the dress makes it to you on time; unlikely, but just maybe.
 
Are you just assuming it won't be there until next week or is that what the tracking is telling you? A ground package can totally make it somewhere in 2-3 days.

The FedEx tracking says estimated delivery is Tuesday. I am not assuming anything.
 
Does shop runner have any guarantees?

No. But honestly, I think Bon-Ton was the one that messed up the shipment. Maybe I'm wrong, but given the conversations I've had with Shoprunner about how it works, I don't think it was them.
 
Geeze I just went to shop runner and looked at their policy. WHAT A JOKE!!! The sole purpose of their website is to hook you up with free 2 day shipping. It states in their policy that they do not guarantee that it will be delivered in that time. How the heck do they get people to pay for memberships?!?

For future reference most reputable companies offer quicker delivery for a bit extra. I'd skip the middle man and just pay the extra and take it out of DD allowance for hemhawing so long. :rotfl2:
 
Geeze I just went to shop runner and looked at their policy. WHAT A JOKE!!! The sole purpose of their website is to hook you up with free 2 day shipping. It states in their policy that they do not guarantee that it will be delivered in that time. How the heck do they get people to pay for memberships?!?

For future reference most reputable companies offer quicker delivery for a bit extra. I'd skip the middle man and just pay the extra and take it out of DD allowance for hemhawing so long. :rotfl2:

I don't actually pay for Shoprunner - it is free with an AmEx card. But they get money from AmEx for my account, so I expect the service to work for me.
 
Nordstrom has a great selection of dresses, usually arrive in two days, free shipping both ways, and excellent customer service.
 
Does Bon Ton have a facebook page? If they do, take your concerns there and post it on their page. When I had a similar horrible customer service experience with Sears, as soon as I posted my concerns on a public forum, they jumped at helping me.
 
I feel for you. I am currently fighting with Straight Talk wireless, which actually has the worst customer service of any company I have ever encountered.

Hope the dress comes in time.
 
I don't actually pay for Shoprunner - it is free with an AmEx card. But they get money from AmEx for my account, so I expect the service to work for me.

Call AMEX if you paid using their card. They may be able to help and maybe you can dispute the charge.

I know it does not help now but one thing to remember is that 2 day shipping in a lot of cases means two days from when they ship the item not from when purchased.

Hope it works out for you
 
I feel for you. I am currently fighting with Straight Talk wireless, which actually has the worst customer service of any company I have ever encountered.

Hope the dress comes in time.

Cell companies - ugh. I feel your pain!!

The dress definitely won't make it in time - it had moved about 640 miles straight down the interstate from where it started as of a few hours ago, it's clearly moving on a truck not a plane. But we did find a dress here in town that will do. Not as well as the one we ordered, and it was more expensive (ouch!), but it will work. It's the first HS dance DD has gone to, so I want her to feel excited and a new dress is always such a big part of that.

What gets me about all of this is that I still don't have a sincere apology from any company involved in the mix up. Shoprunner just points the finger at Bon-Ton and Bon-Ton points the finger at whoever they can think of at the moment (Shoprunner, FedEx or I suspect if I called again they'd blame the man in the moon!). I work in professional services - if I ever treated my clients like that and refused to do everything in my power and then some to address a problem, my derriere would be on the sidewalk!
 
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I know it does not help now but one thing to remember is that 2 day shipping in a lot of cases means two days from when they ship the item not from when purchased.

I did account for the fact that 2 day shipping is only from the time shipped and doesn't include the time it takes the company to prepare the order. BonTon says they ship in 1 business day - the first CSR I talked to even admitted they should have gotten it out on Monday not Tuesday. But I had accounted for that, and gave them an extra day. If they had shipped the proper method, it would have worked.
 
Does Bon Ton have a facebook page? If they do, take your concerns there and post it on their page. When I had a similar horrible customer service experience with Sears, as soon as I posted my concerns on a public forum, they jumped at helping me.

So I went ahead and posted on BonTons facebook page. Their response? Gee, send us an email describing your experience via our generic contact us link so we can "improve". So once again - no attempt at all to resolve the problem, they just want me to spend yet MORE of my time to help THEM. UGGHHHH. Worse yet, I already sent an email in via that link on Monday, identifying that I wanted to be contacted back, but I have not been contacted. Obviously, BonTon is just interested in lip service, not actually giving anything that resembles true customer service.

On the flip side, since Shoprunner screens posts on their Facebook page, I went ahead and posted on their Community forums on the Shoprunner website instead about their part in the issue. This morning I got a message saying the issue had been escalated and someone on their Management team should be calling me. Still not the best customer service in that it took a public complaint, but at least they are trying now.
 
I was thinking the same thing....dispute the charge with your credit card
 















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