Vegetarians - Were you accommodated at Company Parties this year?

You know, if you make the food vegan - and you can have a very delicious meal with vegan food - then everyone can eat it. It fits with all religious requirements as well. (Of course, allergies are another issue, and tricky because they can be so specific.) So it seems to me that's the simplest way to go. Make the meal vegan, and everyone can enjoy it.

Teresa
 
You know, if you make the food vegan - and you can have a very delicious meal with vegan food - then everyone can eat it. It fits with all religious requirements as well. (Of course, allergies are another issue, and tricky because they can be so specific.) So it seems to me that's the simplest way to go. Make the meal vegan, and everyone can enjoy it.

Teresa

Lot's of people have medical issues that make them unable to eat certain food, and some people, like my husband, don't enjoy a meal unless there is meat.

I think it's a good idea to serve a vegetarian (and if you're doing that, might as well make it vegan, to accomodate more people) entree at a function, but I don't think it's right to make everything vegan, to satisfy a few. Most people want meat with their meals.
 
Then there's our command-wide summer and winter parties. These are worse. There are about 3,000 to 4,000 people invited to these events and -- you guessed it -- there are usually NO vegetarian options. At least with the office potlucks, I can bring something myself. Our summer picnic had two options: hamburgers or hot dogs? No veggie burgers or ANYTHING offered. This holiday party at a local hall offered no vegetarian entree. I guess we're expected to just eat green beans and boxed mashed potatoes and consider ourselves lucky.

So I guess to answer your original question: no. And I work for a large organization, no less. It's very frustrating.

That boggles my mind. I am an event planner and I always include a vegetarian option.

To be perfectly honest, however, there is a disincentive to include a vegetarian option based upon my experience. Please note that I am not generalizing to the world, but reporting MY experience. After adding a vegetarian option, I had a tenfold increase in complaints and demands from those wanting more options. By giving an additional option, it seems as though I have empowered others to make demands for additional options (salt free, lactose free, gluten free, vegan, etc etc etc.) Last year I counted up the number of different options people had demanded and it was TEN!

Caterers increase the overall price as the client increases the number of options over two. So I either increase the number of options and increase the price OR I keep the number of options. Either way, I get complaints. Too costly! Not enough options! I get nastygrams telling me that I am promoting animal abuse by offering a vegetarian option and not a vegan option. If I replace the vegetarian option with a vegan option, the vegetarians complain about not getting protein and that I'm not sympathetic to their dietary needs.

As an event planner, I feel as though I cannot win.


Make the meal vegan, and everyone can enjoy it.
Yeah, I tried that. I got more complaints than ever when I only offered a vegan option. Least popular thing I ever tried. Never again. Note that I tried that bec my boss is a vegan and she insisted that everyone would love her diet. I funneled the complaints to her. After dealing with the complaints, she agreed with me, "Never again."
 
You know, if you make the food vegan - and you can have a very delicious meal with vegan food - then everyone can eat it. It fits with all religious requirements as well. (Of course, allergies are another issue, and tricky because they can be so specific.) So it seems to me that's the simplest way to go. Make the meal vegan, and everyone can enjoy it.

Teresa

Except then you have not accommodated the people like me who hate most vegetables! I spend so much time picking out the stuff I won't eat when I go to functions. I recently went to an industry conference that included meals. There were several options for the vegetarians but I spent a lot of time eating salad because it was easier than picking out the vegetables in the entree's.

One of the buffets was very nice though because they had "stations" where they featured an entree and you could tell them to leave out stuff. The lobster station was particularly good!
 

Um, salads are made with vegetables....

As I said earlier, I did like the way the restaurant where we had our office meal handled it. There was meat (turkey with gravy) for the people who needed meat with their meal, but it was on a separate platter so easily avoided by those who didn't want it. Then all the other dishes were vegan. There were three different kinds of salad, one with beans so you could have that if you were not eating meat and concerned about getting more protein. There were fresh-baked breads, served with hummus (again, more protein for people who are concerned about that) (although honestly most people get more protein than they need!). There were seasoned roasted potatoes, and a selection of vegetable sides as well (trying to remember all the options - I know they had roasted parsnips and carrots, and a green bean/cauliflower/broccoli dish too). So everyone got plenty of choices, without it being a big deal. You could easily add a plate of cheese if you felt the cheese-eating vegetarians would be upset.

Teresa
 
Um, salads are made with vegetables....

As I said earlier, I did like the way the restaurant where we had our office meal handled it. There was meat (turkey with gravy) for the people who needed meat with their meal, but it was on a separate platter so easily avoided by those who didn't want it. Then all the other dishes were vegan. There were three different kinds of salad, one with beans so you could have that if you were not eating meat and concerned about getting more protein. There were fresh-baked breads, served with hummus (again, more protein for people who are concerned about that) (although honestly most people get more protein than they need!). There were seasoned roasted potatoes, and a selection of vegetable sides as well (trying to remember all the options - I know they had roasted parsnips and carrots, and a green bean/cauliflower/broccoli dish too). So everyone got plenty of choices, without it being a big deal. You could easily add a plate of cheese if you felt the cheese-eating vegetarians would be upset.

Teresa

I find it hard to believe that all of these options were vegan. Now, maybe your work went out of the way to get vegan selections but most places don't. They feel because it is a vegetable side dish or some type of potato, it must be vegan. You said they served fresh baked bread. Did they really go out of their way to find bread that didn't have eggs or dairy? That would be terrific but most breads on a buffet or pot luck are not vegan.

My DH's work Christmas party was last night. They had a pathetic salad (iceberg and carrots, nothing else) but at least it was vegan. However, they only had two dressings to choose from and both were creamy so they contained dairy. They had a great looking green bean medley but it was swimming in butter. There were mashed potatoes but I know those had butter and milk in them. They had tons of breads but but again, I am certain they have eggs and/or dairy. I am NOT complaining. I do not expect anyone to cater to the way I eat. I eat beforehand and I am perfectly content enjoying the other parts of the evening. I just want to point out that while it may look vegan, chances are unlikely that it really is.
 
Unfortunately, yes. It only takes a few people to ruin the party for everyone else. I'm glad her company was trying to accommodate her, even though they apparently fell short of your particular standards.
To be clear, they normally fulfill those standards, and this time they didn't come close. Also, it should be noted that about 1/3 of my wife's department are vegetarians. The organizers of this year's even are going to catch heck tomorrow for how badly this was handled, this year.

I realize that you're a Vegan or Vegitarian or have other food issues that separate your preferences out from the majority of employees, and I'm sorry that you have experienced that. But what has to be remembered here is that everything is about choice. And with choices come consequences such as not having your preference honored when a decision is being made to benefit the group as a whole.
Absolutely. Did you read, though, what I wrote earlier?
Okay but there is a difference, and in the context of a company - specifically a company that sells its wares all over the world - that difference matters: Vegetarianism is, for many, a cultural/religious issue, no different from the desire to eat Kosher. It is very hard for a company to tell you, as an employee, "Be sensitive to other cultures in how you design our products and how you sell them," and then turn around and disrespect such cultural/religious distinctions within their own labor pool.
Do you see the issue I'm highlighting there? Do you see how it makes things a big different from the norm, with regard to what you're saying here?

This isn't a civil right or an action that's going to have extensive repercussions winging their ways far into the future and destroying lives, businesses and maybe even the planet.
I agree 100%

We're talking about food preferences here.
Yes, true, but I do think it is critical to distinguish between those food preferences that are preferences for preference's sake, and those that reflect ethical decisions. While on the surface, and perhaps in most cases, what you're saying would prevail, the considerations I highlighted (the desire to stage a morale-building exercise, and the imperative management projects to staff to be sensitive to such "preferences" in the conduct of their daily service to customers) may change the dynamic. At the very least, a company probably shouldn't expect people to appreciate the "gift" of a party, if the food offered is definitively disrespectful of their beliefs and values; and a company probably shouldn't expect their staff to be more sensitive to cultural values in the conduct of their service to customers than the company itself exhibits in its interactions with its employees.

However, they're surely within their rights to ignore those implications. You're right about that. And in many cases, they can do so with impunity - they're actually better off doing so. In a tough job market, like we have today, it is far more likely that employees will take their own beliefs and values and stick them in their pockets to a great extent.

And you can bet that if/when all the other employees become upset because of the loss of functions like that, the company will definitely make all employees aware of why those privileges were removed.
Only an idiot-manager would foster enmity among the employees. No reasonable person believes that the path to better productivity and quality among those working for you is to help them hate each other.
 
I think at this point I'm going to have to fall back on my stock answer to everything and everyone:

Bicker, you're absolutely, 100% right on each and every point you've made. How wrong I was. Thank you! I'm glad you pointed that out to me. Now I can change my ways.

Now where did I leave that gym bag? I hope not in the car. I hate getting into a freezing bathing suit.
 
What a strange reply.
Not at all. When I have a choice of being right or being happy, I'll choose happy every time. I can either spend time arguing with you (which will make you happy but waste my time) or go to the gym and let you have the argument.

You win.

I win.

TA-DAH!

Happy! ;)
 
You don't need take such a strange turn just because folks don't agree with you. Disagreement is okay. We don't all have to believe the same things and value things the same.
 
See, I don't understand this. Does everyone else just eat meat, meat and more meat? I always make meat free dishes to take to potlucks because I eat meat about three times a week and fish twice, the rest of my meals are meat free. I'm not talking vegan here, that is a tough one. My friends who are vegan can get food at my house but they know most places don't have tofu, soy milk and cheese or dishes free of butter. At an office holiday party, I would expect to eat the side dishes as there are so few vegetarians. Years ago, my office of about 25 went to a restaurant and our boss had alerted the restaurant that two of us were vegetarians. They made beautiful salads for us. Everyone else was jealous, lol!
 
Yes, the restaurant did specially make all the side dishes (including the breads) vegan. Not hard to do, actually. My boss had called in advance to arrange this, and our server let us know that the food was all vegan.

I always ask, even if food looks like it might be vegan.

Teresa
 
See, I don't understand this. Does everyone else just eat meat, meat and more meat?

I think a lot of it is that a lot of people associate value with meat. I remember back 10-15 years ago, when a lot of the better WDW restaurants started going gourmet. While many of us remember that time as the "golden age" of dining at WDW, back at the time there were a lot of folks who expressed outrage at how many of the meals, especially the appetizers, were becoming so inconsequential. What they often meant was that the appetizers were becoming less reliant on meat, and many people associated some vegetables and grains on a plate as cheap food, ignoring how some of the flavorful ingredients were perhaps rare and therefore expensive ingredients.
 
See, I don't understand this. Does everyone else just eat meat, meat and more meat? I always make meat free dishes to take to potlucks because I eat meat about three times a week and fish twice, the rest of my meals are meat free. I'm not talking vegan here, that is a tough one. My friends who are vegan can get food at my house but they know most places don't have tofu, soy milk and cheese or dishes free of butter. At an office holiday party, I would expect to eat the side dishes as there are so few vegetarians. Years ago, my office of about 25 went to a restaurant and our boss had alerted the restaurant that two of us were vegetarians. They made beautiful salads for us. Everyone else was jealous, lol!

I'd be happy having meat only once or twice a week, but my husband feels like he needs it with each meal. Seriously feels off and sometimes sick if he doesn't eat it. :confused3 My sons are the same way (but they don't do many veggies). I love almost all vegetables and like most fruits.
 
I'm thinking that maybe our department just likes and knows each other so well. We have a person who is Jewish and follows those eating guidelines, two people on diets, and several people who have odd food habits.

We had a potluck and everyone tried so hard to help everyone else. Someone brought in a lovely salad and insisted the dressing be on the side just for me.

I made sure that I went "in" with our Jewish colleague to make sure she had something to enjoy. And so on.

It was great. (Well, except for my non-so-odd issue of eating other's homemade items! LOL!)

When we have catered events, there is ALWAYS things for the vegetarians and the vegans and the religious eaters in terrific quantities. Even the waiters know to ask before serving huge dinners (for 200-500 people.) They just ask the table members before serving who is what. :lmao:

Maybe it is because I work in entertainment and it has been this way forever?
 
I was a vegetarian for a long time and honestly I don't ever remember having any problems. Our Christmas parties were always potluck style and most people brought non-meat, side dishes. The company always provided turkey and a few people would bring things like meatballs, but most dishes were salads, pasta salads, veggie sides, and desserts. I don't ever remember being anything but stuffed! :laughing:

Most catered events usually offered a veggie entree. . .and honestly they were usually horrid! :( I ate fish and shellfish, so if that was an option I picked that instead of the veggie option. The only time I remember not having many options was a catered in luncheon seminar. They served a Greek pasta salad that had chicken in it. I was never really picky, so I just picked the chicken out. It was actually really good.

I do think finding vegan options would be harder. A lot of people put cheese in their salads. But I think you can usually find a salad that is just veggies and at least a veggie or fruit tray.

I do think there are usually options. . .so you just deal with it. . .just like people that can't have gluten. . .or pork. . .or dairy. :confused3

ETA-when my kids school had barbecues or they were going to a birthday party, I would send in some veggie hot dogs or a cheese pizza. It was never a big deal.
 
My DD is a vegetarian; and I don't even make her special sides~ I'm hoping she gets over her crazy phase of trying to make me nuts!:laughing:

Just trying to lighten it up~ LOL; but no I have never noticed; any office or group function I've been too always has at least a salad and a pasta. Oh~ most importantly~ desert :lovestruc
 
We just had our work Christmas party on Friday and in our small group of 9 employees we do have a vegetarian and always have stuff for her to eat and enjoy. We went to a comedy club this year and there were 2 vegetarian pasta dishes available on the buffet along with salads, and side dishes that contained no meat, but the establishment did come out and ask if she would like the chef to make her another dish for dinner-she said she was fine with what would be offered on the buffet. They did a great job of replenishing the buffet so there was always alot of food for everyone to choose from. I dont recall if there were vegan choices available.

Our managers/owners are also always very good about accomodating her during lunches catered in etc and she is never left without being able to join us in filling our faces :goodvibes
 
I live near a very progressive vegetarian Mecca of sorts and it's fairly easy to find options at parties here, even in the more suburban areas where meat on meat casseroles is the usual fare. I'm grateful to live in such a veg-friendly area where many people share the same thoughts and feelings as I do, especially because I come from a "house divided" -- hubby is an omnivore.
 

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