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Can anyone completely explain VAT to me? I know it's added to the price of just about everything purchased on the ship and in ports on med cruise. what is the percentage? and is it charged on the price of excursions? Will it be clearly marked on ship receipts? thanks
 
VAT stands for Value-Added Tax. It is simply taxes that are added to the good or service you are purchasing. I am not sure what jurisdiction the Disney ships fall under it's usually a state/government tax.
 
Value added tax (VAT) is tax on exchanges. It is levied on the value added that results from each exchange. It differs from a sales tax because a sales tax is levied on the total value of the exchange. For this reason, a VAT is neutral with respect to the number of passages that there are between the producer and the final consumer. A VAT is an indirect tax, in that the tax is collected from someone other than the person who actually bears the cost of the tax (namely the seller rather than the consumer). To avoid double taxation on final consumption, exports (which by definition, are consumed abroad) are usually not subject to VAT and VAT charged under such circumstances is usually refundable.

The VAT was invented by a French economist in 1954. Maurice Lauré, joint director of the French tax authority, the Direction générale des impôts, as taxe sur la valeur ajoutée (TVA in French) was first to introduce VAT with effect from 10 April 1954 for large businesses, and extended over time to all business sectors. In France, it is the most important source of state finance, accounting for approximately 45% of state revenues.

Personal end-consumers of products, consumers and services cannot recover VAT on purchases, but businesses are able to recover VAT on the materials and services that they buy to make further supplies or services directly or indirectly sold to end-users. In this way, the total tax levied at each stage in the economic chain of supply is a constant fraction of the value added by a business to its products, and most of the cost of collecting the tax is borne by business, rather than by the state. VAT was invented because very high sales taxes and tariffs encourage cheating and smuggling. It has been criticized on the grounds that it is a regressive tax.

What are VAT/GST?

Value Added Tax (VAT) is a form of indirect tax applied to the value added at each stage of production (primary, manufacturing, wholesale and retail). This tax is much like the sales tax paid in the United States. VAT may be calculated by the subtraction method or credit method. The subtraction method applies the tax to the difference between the value of the purchases and the value of outputs. The credit method applies the tax rate to total sales and then gives each member of the distribution channel a rate adjusted credit on purchases. The European Union, Japan and some South American countries assess VAT at a rate of 15-25 percent. The GST, or Goods and Services Tax, is a 7 percent tax charged on most goods and services sold or provided in Canada; it is similar to VAT.

Why are taxes refunded?

The main principle of VAT is that governments do not charge the tax on exports of goods to other countries. They extend this principle to include purchases made by foreign visitors when they take goods back to their country. This, in theory, is supposed to stimulate trade and economic development.

What countries allow VAT refunds?

The EC countries (Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom), Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Iceland, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Norway, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Turkey, and Switzerland all refund VAT/GST to varying degrees.

Who can recover VAT- businesses or tourists?

While both business travelers and tourists are entitled to VAT refunds, the refund opportunities differ greatly. Tourists can apply for VAT refunds on merchandise, but not services. Custom officials must validate this merchandise to prove that the merchandise is indeed leaving the country. Business refunds, however, also include a wide range of services and do not require customs validation. The individual business traveler's employer files for refunds on their behalf.

What VAT expenses can be recovered?

Business travel costs (car rentals, hotel accommodation, meals, gas expenses, telephone expenses), business operating costs (jet fuel, maintenance costs), marketing/advertising services, and trade show/conference expenses are the most typical business expense categories that qualify for a VAT refund.

What are the procedures involved in recovering VAT?

For the tourist, reclaiming a VAT is a fairy straightforward process. The typical scenario is to get some form of documentation when you make a purchase, stipulating the amount of refund due. You then show these documents to customs officials upon leaving the country to claim your refund. Most countries specify a minimum amount you must spend in a particular shop to claim a refund. The minimum amount ranges from US$ 25 in Sweden to US$ 340 in Switzerland.

Another way for tourists to reclaim VAT is by purchasing items at stores participating in the Europe Tax-free Shopping program. When your buy from these merchants you simply show your passport and get a Tax-Free Shopping Cheque showing the amount of refund owed to you. When you leave the country, you show your purchases to an appropriate customs official, who stamps your checks. You then claim your refund from a Europe Tax-free shopping desk on site, or have the refund mailed to you.

For the business traveler, the easiest way to reclaim taxes is to have a company specializing in VAT refunds do the work for you. You save your receipts from all your purchases and send them to one of these service providers. They will then identify which receipts are eligible for a refund, fill out all necessary paperwork, file the claim with the appropriate authorities, and send you a check once the refund has been issued. As a fee, the company will claim a percentage of the refund; the fee is waived in the event a refund is not issued.


 
Value added tax (VAT) is tax on exchanges. It is levied on the value added that results from each exchange. It differs from a sales tax because a sales tax is levied on the total value of the exchange. For this reason, a VAT is neutral with respect to the number of passages that there are between the producer and the final consumer. A VAT is an indirect tax, in that the tax is collected from someone other than the person who actually bears the cost of the tax (namely the seller rather than the consumer). To avoid double taxation on final consumption, exports (which by definition, are consumed abroad) are usually not subject to VAT and VAT charged under such circumstances is usually refundable.

The VAT was invented by a French economist in 1954. Maurice Lauré, joint director of the French tax authority, the Direction générale des impôts, as taxe sur la valeur ajoutée (TVA in French) was first to introduce VAT with effect from 10 April 1954 for large businesses, and extended over time to all business sectors. In France, it is the most important source of state finance, accounting for approximately 45% of state revenues.

Personal end-consumers of products, consumers and services cannot recover VAT on purchases, but businesses are able to recover VAT on the materials and services that they buy to make further supplies or services directly or indirectly sold to end-users. In this way, the total tax levied at each stage in the economic chain of supply is a constant fraction of the value added by a business to its products, and most of the cost of collecting the tax is borne by business, rather than by the state. VAT was invented because very high sales taxes and tariffs encourage cheating and smuggling. It has been criticized on the grounds that it is a regressive tax.

What are VAT/GST?

Value Added Tax (VAT) is a form of indirect tax applied to the value added at each stage of production (primary, manufacturing, wholesale and retail). This tax is much like the sales tax paid in the United States. VAT may be calculated by the subtraction method or credit method. The subtraction method applies the tax to the difference between the value of the purchases and the value of outputs. The credit method applies the tax rate to total sales and then gives each member of the distribution channel a rate adjusted credit on purchases. The European Union, Japan and some South American countries assess VAT at a rate of 15-25 percent. The GST, or Goods and Services Tax, is a 7 percent tax charged on most goods and services sold or provided in Canada; it is similar to VAT.

Why are taxes refunded?

The main principle of VAT is that governments do not charge the tax on exports of goods to other countries. They extend this principle to include purchases made by foreign visitors when they take goods back to their country. This, in theory, is supposed to stimulate trade and economic development.

What countries allow VAT refunds?

The EC countries (Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom), Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Iceland, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Norway, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Turkey, and Switzerland all refund VAT/GST to varying degrees.

Who can recover VAT- businesses or tourists?

While both business travelers and tourists are entitled to VAT refunds, the refund opportunities differ greatly. Tourists can apply for VAT refunds on merchandise, but not services. Custom officials must validate this merchandise to prove that the merchandise is indeed leaving the country. Business refunds, however, also include a wide range of services and do not require customs validation. The individual business traveler's employer files for refunds on their behalf.

What VAT expenses can be recovered?

Business travel costs (car rentals, hotel accommodation, meals, gas expenses, telephone expenses), business operating costs (jet fuel, maintenance costs), marketing/advertising services, and trade show/conference expenses are the most typical business expense categories that qualify for a VAT refund.

What are the procedures involved in recovering VAT?

For the tourist, reclaiming a VAT is a fairy straightforward process. The typical scenario is to get some form of documentation when you make a purchase, stipulating the amount of refund due. You then show these documents to customs officials upon leaving the country to claim your refund. Most countries specify a minimum amount you must spend in a particular shop to claim a refund. The minimum amount ranges from US$ 25 in Sweden to US$ 340 in Switzerland.

Another way for tourists to reclaim VAT is by purchasing items at stores participating in the Europe Tax-free Shopping program. When your buy from these merchants you simply show your passport and get a Tax-Free Shopping Cheque showing the amount of refund owed to you. When you leave the country, you show your purchases to an appropriate customs official, who stamps your checks. You then claim your refund from a Europe Tax-free shopping desk on site, or have the refund mailed to you.

For the business traveler, the easiest way to reclaim taxes is to have a company specializing in VAT refunds do the work for you. You save your receipts from all your purchases and send them to one of these service providers. They will then identify which receipts are eligible for a refund, fill out all necessary paperwork, file the claim with the appropriate authorities, and send you a check once the refund has been issued. As a fee, the company will claim a percentage of the refund; the fee is waived in the event a refund is not issued.




Wow - that's a lot of unfamiliar information to digest. :confused3 Birkner, would you please be so kind as to break this down into what exactly it means for the average Med cruiser and, as a result, what we need to do? Thanks! :)
 

response by birkner was pretty much what i read on wikipedia.com. i was looking for more of a layman's explanation on how it applies to the disney cruise. especially percentage and if it applies to excursions. any pervious med cruisers from another cruise line?
 
If you make any purchases which have some value (the country-specific amount can be researched but it also is related to your effort:dollar ratio) you will want to file to get a refund of the tax (when you return to the US-but you will need to get paperwork when you leave the country). Careful, there are companies set up in airports to arrange this for you (they look official) but charge a fee. When leaving Canada recently, getting the proper form NOT from a "for fee" company was a pain in the neck.
Also, some shop keepers are very good at illustrating your purchase price AFTER the refund of the VAT ("your price would only be....") since they know you are a tourist. You better plan on filing for the refund if you believe the shop keeper

Barb
 
OK don't quote me on this but I've been told its 18% on the boat and applies to gifts and drink etc on the boat. Don't know about whether it applies to excursions.
 
professorandmom - you say the shop workers let you know what you are paying for an item... is the vat clearly indicated on the receipt you sign (credit card) or receipt you receive (cash) like sales tax is? someone else said 18% - does that sound right to you? I've heard it's pretty easy to get the refund on your own, but to keep receipts separated by port (or perhaps countries) as vats may be different. it would just be easier to start this trip knowing what to do along the way rather than trying to pull everything together on the last day.
 
Wow - that's a lot of unfamiliar information to digest. :confused3 Birkner, would you please be so kind as to break this down into what exactly it means for the average Med cruiser and, as a result, what we need to do? Thanks! :)

Basically what you do is have the merchant fill out the form when you make a purchase and turn those forms in the last EU country you visit. I know this is complicated but there is really no way to make it completely simple.

For example, when you make your purchase, have the merchant fill out the necessary refund document, called a "cheque." You'll need to present your passport. Make sure the paperwork is done before you leave the store so there's nothing important missing. If they leave any blanks for you to fill out, be sure you understand what goes where. Attach your receipt to the form and stash it in a safe place.

What if the store ships your purchase to your home? You can still collect a refund, but the process varies by country. In Italy, the shipper gets your customs stamp for you and sends you the documents. In Germany, you take the documents home and then get a stamp at a German consulate or embassy once you receive the goods. Ask at the shop where you make your purchase how it works in their country.

What if the store ships your purchase to your home? You can still collect a refund, but the process varies by country. In Italy, the shipper gets your customs stamp for you and sends you the documents. In Germany, you take the documents home and then get a stamp at a German consulate or embassy once you receive the goods. Ask at the shop where you make your purchase how it works in their country.

If you buy merchandise in a European Union country and you're bringing the goods home with you, process your documents at your last stop in the EU, regardless of where you made your purchases. So if you buy sweaters in Denmark, pants in France, and shoes in Italy, and you're flying home from Greece, get your documents stamped in Athens. Be aware that if the currencies are different in the country where you made your purchase and where you process your refund — say, pounds and euros — you may have to pay an extra conversion fee. And don't forget — Switzerland, Norway, Croatia, and Turkey

TWO IMPORTANT POINTS:

1. You're not supposed to use your purchased goods before you present them at customs. Some retailers, particularly those in Scandinavia, will staple and seal the shopping bag to keep people from cheating. If you show up at customs wearing your new shoes, officials might look the other way — or deny you a refund.

2. You'll have to wait in a special line at customs and then, if you're collecting your refund right away, at the refund office. In smaller airports, ports, and less-trafficked border crossings, finding the right customs agent can be tough. If you run out of time and have to leave without the stamp, you're probably out of luck. A few countries allow you to try to recover the refund through the embassy in your home country. Regardless, it's a lot of trouble.
 
I read on one of the posts it is 18% in Mickeys Mates and shutters and 7% on drinks which sounds more like it ( we are from the uk and are used to VAT although we use differents rates ) apparently there are forms and notices all over for you guys that can claim it back ( us European residents can't) . I would ask at guest services if you don't understand the forms . It should all be itemised on all receipts - it's a legal requirement .

Hope this helps :cool2:
 
sounds like we shouldn't plan on shopping in europe!! or just shop knowing it is costing 18% or whatever more than the shop keeper is telling us. I've heard it's charged on soft drinks, food, etc. is this true??
 
If you visit the UK there is no VAT on childrens shoes !!! So stock up on childrens shoes :rotfl: ...... at the moment you have such a poor exchange rate plus the VAT that I don't think you will be finding any bargains ! Enjoy the sights and the food and take lots of photos home .

Seriously each country has different rates of VAT and different items that are not charged vat on . It is very complicated but will be on the bottom of each receipt - the prices shown in the shops here INCLUDE vat unlike your sales tax which is added afterwards . I am pretty sure it is the same in other euro countries too ( definate in France ) but the ship will probably be different .
 
Can anyone completely explain VAT to me?
We were in Europe last month.

As a foreign visitor, you are able to claim back the tax you pay on purchases you take home.

1. Shop at a store displaying the "Tax Free Shopping" sign.

2. Ask a salesclerk what's the minimum purchase required at that store in one day. (You cannot combine receipts from different days, or from different stores.) If you meet the minimum purchase, ask the salesclerk to prepare a refund form (it's called a "Global Refund Cheque").

3. At the airport, when leaving the EU, show your purchases, original receipts, and passport to the EU customs officials and have your refund form stamped. (Put the merchandise in your carry-on bag. They will ask if you have the items with you, and sometimes will ask to see them. This is to prevent people from buying things for others, and claiming the refund.)

4. Get your refund as a credit to your credit card or as a bank check by mail.

Woody
 
Unless things have changed since I was in Germany, VAT is INCLUDED in the prices quoted on merchandise. So you actually pay $25.00 for an item marked $25.00 but your final receipt will show cost $20.00 and VAT $5.00. %s are wrong but you get the picture. It's not a tax that is computed at the checkout like sales tax is. When you're shopping, you don't have to "add" the VAT to the price quoted, it's already there.

Not exactly sure how they will do it on the ship so be sure to ask. And some of you UK or other European posters correct me if I'm wrong. It's been several years since I've been in Europe.
 
thanks everyone who replied. CMMom you really clarified things for me - i think! Price marked is the total price, including VAT. Refunded only if you exceed preset minimum amount in a single store. So small purchases, such as snacks and small souveniers are nothing that we will need to itemize or keep track of for customs purposes? Do I have this right?
 

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