UY months?

[erikawolf2004]

Does every location have every UY month? We are looking at getting a BCV or BWV contract and would really like Dec, but might be ok getting another resort, but not sure if they would all have December.

Thanks, Erika

 

[Sandisw]

Yes, all DVC resorts have Feb, Mar, April, June, Aug, Sept, Oct, and Dec UY's. However, the points for each UY are not evenly distributed and some resorts have more of one UY than another.

For example, there are a lot of BLT points assigned to Feb UY. I have a June UY and the amount of points for this UY are a lot less. That means, my chances of find June UY contracts on the resale market won't be as good as it would if I wanted Feb UY.

 

[papamouse1]

I see used inventory on a couple of different sites with Dec UY for both of those resorts, so there definitely are points out there with your UY. Now the trick is finding a contract for them that you can buy

Also, with both of those resorts being older sold out resorts, direct buying from Disney will only be available if they have ROFR'd and bought back any inventory with that UY. There is no guarantee they will have it.... luck of the draw

 

[chalee94]

Does every location have every UY month? We are looking at getting a BCV or BWV contract and would really like Dec, but might be ok getting another resort, but not sure if they would all have December.

so i'm assuming you would mostly be traveling in dec or early in the calendar year?

 

[erikawolf2004]

so i'm assuming you would mostly be traveling in dec or early in the calendar year?

We would most likely not travel in the fall, so that is why I'm thinking Dec would be a good UY for us. We just went in Dec and loved it and then we would travel in the late winter possibly, spring or over summer vacation, since we have a 5 yr old we have to take into consideration school schedules going forward. We stayed at the BC over Dec and loved the location, Epcot is our favorite park and a must for most of our dinner plans and I don't see that changing. So that is why we are looking at the BCV & BWV with BCV being our first choice. We are going to wait until after the changes because we want to get as good of a deal as possible and wouldn't change out our points..we want a small contract about 75 points so we can use them every 2-3 years either in DW, HHI or possibly Aulani.

Thank you to everyone that responded.

 

[papamouse1]

We would most likely not travel in the fall, so that is why I'm thinking Dec would be a good UY for us. We just went in Dec and loved it and then we would travel in the late winter possibly, spring or over summer vacation, since we have a 5 yr old we have to take into consideration school schedules going forward. We stayed at the BC over Dec and loved the location, Epcot is our favorite park and a must for most of our dinner plans and I don't see that changing. So that is why we are looking at the BCV & BWV with BCV being our first choice. We are going to wait until after the changes because we want to get as good of a deal as possible and wouldn't change out our points..we want a small contract about 75 points so we can use them every 2-3 years either in DW, HHI or possibly Aulani.

Thank you to everyone that responded.

Here's the thing... You want to try and buy a UY that is 1 month ahead of your preferred travel time. For example you buy a Jan UY if your preferred month to travel is Dec., so as soon as you get your points, you can start booking in the 11 month window. Other reasons why you want to own a UY that is 12 out form when you " usually" travel is ...
1) If you book as early as possible, then if you need to cancel, it is much safer to cancel farther out from your travel date without any penalty.

2) Also, you have more time to decide if you are going to bank your points without facing penalties.

Hope that makes sense. IMO it would not be beneficial to buy Dec points unless you plan on traveling in Nov. If you think you are most likely to travel at Spring Break or early summer because of school, then pick a UY around April- June.

 

[rlovew]

You want a use year that is right before your preffered travel time. If you will maily be going in Dec and the Apring then a fall use year would be good. That way if you have to cancel you have time to bank your points or arrange a different trip before the end of your use year.

 

[rlovew]

Here's the thing... You want to try and buy a UY that is 1 month ahead of your preferred travel time. For example you buy a Jan UY if your preferred month to travel is Dec., so as soon as you get your points, you can start booking in the 11 month window. Other reasons why you want to own a UY that is 12 out form when you " usually" travel is ...
1) If you book as early as possible, then if you need to cancel, it is much safer to cancel farther out from your travel date without any penalty.

2) Also, you have more time to decide if you are going to bank your points without facing penalties.

Hope that makes sense. IMO it would not be beneficial to buy Dec points unless you plan on traveling in Nov. If you think you are most likely to travel at Spring Break or early summer because of school, then pick a UY around April- June.

This is not correct- you do not have to be in your use year to book. Your points are allocated well before the begining of your use year and you can always book at your 11 month and 7 month window provided you will have the points when you are planning to travel.

 

[papamouse1]

This is not correct- you do not have to be in your use year to book. Your points are allocated well before the begining of your use year and you can always book at your 11 month and 7 month window provided you will have the points when you are planning to travel.

I think you have misunderstood my point or maybe I wasn't clear enough
You receive your points for 2011 in the month of your UY correct? Yes, you can borrow points earlier... OR hold your points and book later any time during the year, true... So you can basically book anytime you prefer.

But you are missing my main point. The farther away from your UY month you book, the less time you have to cancel without penalty, and less time you have to decide if you want to bank what you have left.


Example scenario...
I have a June UY contract. My family is going on a cruise and a WDW stay end of Nov. We wanted to try out the concierge level at AKV so we HAD to book 11 months out to get it. In order to use my June 2011 points in January to book that room, I had to "borrow" the points. They are not officially available to use until June. Since they are borrowed, I now have few good options if for some reason I need to cancel. My only other option would have been to have just kept my 2010 UY points until Jan 2011 to book, but now I am dangerously close to the cutoff for banking points and cancellation penalties. So my point is, yes I can have a June UY and book Dec, but it is much more risky.
All this extra risk is gone if my UY is Jan. Now in Jan 2011, my points arrive and I book for Nov with my actual year points, so no borrowing... Plus now I have the maximum amount of time to make changes, cancel, whatever, and avoid any penalties for doing so. You also have plenty of time left now to decode what to do with any extra points you have... Bank them, or use them fir a short trip... Whatever.

So with that said... IMO, buy a UY that is closest to your "favored" time of year. It will give more flexibility to make changes if needed

 

[erikawolf2004]

Ok now I'm confused! I thought if we had a Dec UY and say wanted to travel in Dec for example: we want to travel Dec 2011, we could either bank our 2010 points and use our 2010 and 2011 points for the 2011 trip or another option which would probably be the better option of using our 2011 and 2012 point, then we would have until Nov 2012 to use those points, meaning if we cancelled the Dec 2011 trip we would have almost all of 2012 to use them. If we had the Dec UY we just have to bank our points by Aug of the following year, is this not correct?

 

[papamouse1]

Ok now I'm confused! I thought if we had a Dec UY and say wanted to travel in Dec for example: we want to travel Dec 2011, we could either bank our 2010 points and use our 2010 and 2011 points for the 2011 trip or another option which would probably be the better option of using our 2011 and 2012 point, then we would have until Nov 2012 to use those points, meaning if we cancelled the Dec 2011 trip we would have almost all of 2012 to use them. If we had the Dec UY we just have to bank our points by Aug of the following year, is this not correct?

I know it can get kinda messy thinking about it

Here's your scenario with a Dec UY...

You can bank 2010 points into 2011, or borrow from 2012 into 2011. In both cases, the banked/borrowed become 2011 points which means you have until Nov 2012 to use them... So booking Dec 2011 would be no problem.
And yes you are correct, you have until end of July to bank your points. REMEMBER though, you can't bank any of the borrowed or banked points you brought into your UY... Only points that are from that actual UY can be banked.

 

[DebbieB]

I think you have misunderstood my point or maybe I wasn't clear enough
You receive your points for 2011 in the month of your UY correct? Yes, you can borrow points earlier... OR hold your points and book later any time during the year, true... So you can basically book anytime you prefer.

But you are missing my main point. The farther away from your UY month you book, the less time you have to cancel without penalty, and less time you have to decide if you want to bank what you have left.


Example scenario...
I have a June UY contract. My family is going on a cruise and a WDW stay end of Nov. We wanted to try out the concierge level at AKV so we HAD to book 11 months out to get it. In order to use my June 2011 points in January to book that room, I had to "borrow" the points. They are not officially available to use until June. Since they are borrowed, I now have few good options if for some reason I need to cancel. My only other option would have been to have just kept my 2010 UY points until Jan 2011 to book, but now I am dangerously close to the cutoff for banking points and cancellation penalties. So my point is, yes I can have a June UY and book Dec, but it is much more risky.
All this extra risk is gone if my UY is Jan. Now in Jan 2011, my points arrive and I book for Nov with my actual year points, so no borrowing... Plus now I have the maximum amount of time to make changes, cancel, whatever, and avoid any penalties for doing so. You also have plenty of time left now to decode what to do with any extra points you have... Bank them, or use them fir a short trip... Whatever.

So with that said... IMO, buy a UY that is closest to your "favored" time of year. It will give more flexibility to make changes if needed

No, that's not correct. You do not receive your points when your use year starts. They are added to your account years in advance. I have an April use year and if I look at my account online, right now I have 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. On April 1 of this year, they will add 2014. I booked a trip for May 2011 back in October, I used banked 2010 and current 2011, I did not have to borrow them since my date of stay was in my 2011 use year. I could have borrowed 2012 if I did not have enough. All points use is based on date of stay, not when you make the reservation. You look at the use year that applies to the date of stay. In my case, May 2011 is in my 2011 use year, so that use year is treated as current. I did not have to borrow 2011, they were already "available".

 

[CarolMN]

Those who are up for a bit of a tutorial on Use Year will be interested in this thread:

Understanding Use Year

 

[Sandisw]

Ok now I'm confused! I thought if we had a Dec UY and say wanted to travel in Dec for example: we want to travel Dec 2011, we could either bank our 2010 points and use our 2010 and 2011 points for the 2011 trip or another option which would probably be the better option of using our 2011 and 2012 point, then we would have until Nov 2012 to use those points, meaning if we cancelled the Dec 2011 trip we would have almost all of 2012 to use them. If we had the Dec UY we just have to bank our points by Aug of the following year, is this not correct?

Your UY has nothing to do with when you can book your trip. Everything is based on time of travel so you want to have a UY that falls BEFORE you travel, not after. I think the PP is a bit confused about this.

For example, I travel in August with a June UY. To book my August 2011 trip, I called in Sept 2010 (11 months out). When I called, I was in my 2010 UY, but the points I could use for that trip, since my trip was in my 2011 UY were banked 2010 points, 2011 points, and borrow 2012 points.

Basically, just because I was in my 2010 UY when I called, it didn't mean I was borrowing 2011 UY points to book. If your trip is in your 2011 UY, then any 2011 UY points are considered current.

If you have a Dec UY, it will work for your stated travel times.

 

[Sandisw]

I think you have misunderstood my point or maybe I wasn't clear enough
You receive your points for 2011 in the month of your UY correct? Yes, you can borrow points earlier... OR hold your points and book later any time during the year, true... So you can basically book anytime you prefer.

But you are missing my main point. The farther away from your UY month you book, the less time you have to cancel without penalty, and less time you have to decide if you want to bank what you have left.


Example scenario...
I have a June UY contract. My family is going on a cruise and a WDW stay end of Nov. We wanted to try out the concierge level at AKV so we HAD to book 11 months out to get it. In order to use my June 2011 points in January to book that room, I had to "borrow" the points. They are not officially available to use until June. Since they are borrowed, I now have few good options if for some reason I need to cancel. My only other option would have been to have just kept my 2010 UY points until Jan 2011 to book, but now I am dangerously close to the cutoff for banking points and cancellation penalties. So my point is, yes I can have a June UY and book Dec, but it is much more risky.
All this extra risk is gone if my UY is Jan. Now in Jan 2011, my points arrive and I book for Nov with my actual year points, so no borrowing... Plus now I have the maximum amount of time to make changes, cancel, whatever, and avoid any penalties for doing so. You also have plenty of time left now to decode what to do with any extra points you have... Bank them, or use them fir a short trip... Whatever.

So with that said... IMO, buy a UY that is closest to your "favored" time of year. It will give more flexibility to make changes if needed

This is not true. I booked an August 2011 trip using my June 2011 UY points in Septmber 2010 and those points are not "borrowed" because my trip (not when I called) is in my 2011 UY.


In your situation, if you wanted to travel in Nov 2011 with a June UY, you could have booked in Dec 2010 with those June 2011 UY points and it would not count as "borrowing" because your Nov 2011 trip falls in your June 2011 UY. You don't have to wait until you start a UY to book with points. Your points are already in your account.

It is based on when you travel and not when you book. The only way you would be borrowing June 2011 UY points is if you wanted to use them in the 2010 UY (June 1st, 2010 to May 31st, 2011). When you call is immaterial to what points get used for trips.

 

[chalee94]

Example scenario...
I have a June UY contract. My family is going on a cruise and a WDW stay end of Nov. We wanted to try out the concierge level at AKV so we HAD to book 11 months out to get it. In order to use my June 2011 points in January to book that room, I had to "borrow" the points.

not accurate.

They are not officially available to use until June.

not accurate.

please re-read carol's use year link above...

 

[Lost boy]

Yes, papamouse is wrong. When we bought, our long time guide asked us what our travel times would most likely be and we said mid to late Jan. so he said a Dec. uy would be perfect and it has been .

 

[papamouse1]

ErIka, I just want to apologize if I have caused you any confusion. I could have sworn the CM said he was "borrowing" points to do my resize, but SandisW totally makes sense.
And LostBoy is correct as well, the preferred UY is the month BEFORE the month your family prefers to travel and the month AFTER. I get those backwards for some reason. .

 

[maburke]

We would most likely not travel in the fall, so that is why I'm thinking Dec would be a good UY for us. We just went in Dec and loved it and then we would travel in the late winter possibly, spring or over summer vacation, since we have a 5 yr old we have to take into consideration school schedules going forward. We stayed at the BC over Dec and loved the location, Epcot is our favorite park and a must for most of our dinner plans and I don't see that changing. So that is why we are looking at the BCV & BWV with BCV being our first choice. We are going to wait until after the changes because we want to get as good of a deal as possible and wouldn't change out our points..we want a small contract about 75 points so we can use them every 2-3 years either in DW, HHI or possibly Aulani.

Thank you to everyone that responded.

You have that exactly right, and it sounds like a Dec UY is a good choice for you. (Though reading the UY thread is a great idea.).

Papamouse1, you might consider editing your earlier post so that there isn't incorrect information out there. There isn't even any such thing as a January Use Year.