Use of Points?

[Uncle Remus]

I pulled this from a resale website (FAQs), but this confused me, can someone offer a clarification?

If I own points in multiple places, do I get the 11 month advantage at all of them?

Yes. However, reservations can be made only up to the number of points available at that resort for your reservation.
http://dvcbyresale.com/page.php?pageid=faq#ownmultiple

For example: if I have 60 points from BWV and 60 points from BCV and I want to use 90 of the total 120 points to book at BCV, I can, right?

 

[tinkbutt]

From what I understand you can but you would have to borrow the extra 60 points from BCV from the next year! In order to get the "Home Resort" advantage you have to have all the points from that resort.

 

[Uncle Remus]

From what I understand you can but you would have to borrow the extra 60 points from BCV from the next year! In order to get the "Home Resort" advantage you have to have all the points from that resort.

Well hell, that sure does mess up my plans!


Thank you for the prompt answer, I'm gonna have to go back to the drawin' board.

 

[CraftyMouse]

The quote you highlighted pertains to the 11-month booking window. Points maintain their home resort and use year. If you have 60 BCV points and 60 BWV and you want to combine them for a reservation (even at one of those two resorts) you will need to wait until the 7-month window. From 11-7 months you can only use the points to book a reservation at the resort they belong to.

So if you needed 90 points for a reservation at BCV within the 11-7 month window you would have to borrow 30 from the next use year. If you waited until the 7-month window opens you can combine the BCV and BWV points for the reservation.

 

[Uncle Remus]

The quote you highlighted pertains to the 11-month booking window. Points maintain their home resort and use year. If you have 60 BCV points and 60 BWV and you want to combine them for a reservation (even at one of those two resorts) you will need to wait until the 7-month window. From 11-7 months you can only use the points to book a reservation at the resort they belong to.

So if you needed 90 points for a reservation at BCV within the 11-7 month window you would have to borrow 30 from the next use year. If you waited until the 7-month window opens you can combine the BCV and BWV points for the reservation.

I was afraid of that coz it's my understanding those 2 resorts book up quicker than others due to their size. I'm tryin' to learn the ins 'n outs of DVC ownership before I attempt my first purchase. Thanks for your input, I appreciate all the info I can get.

Can anyone answer this: if I buy a smaller contract from 2 or more resorts, then can I do the one time per year transfer in for each contract?

 

[chalee94]

BTW, i saw you coming and tried to head you off at the pass...

I was afraid of that coz it's my understanding those 2 resorts book up quicker than others due to their size. I'm tryin' to learn the ins 'n outs of DVC ownership before I attempt my first purchase. Thanks for your input, I appreciate all the info I can get.

Can anyone answer this: if I buy a smaller contract from 2 or more resorts, then can I do the one time per year transfer in for each contract?

it's a whole lot easier if you just buy where you want to stay.

but let's say you have a master contract at OKW, and then add-on at BCV and BWV directly through disney...and then buy resales with different UY months at VWL and VB.

at 7 months, if you want to book OKW with BCV pts, you can do it with no problem...including if you want to add an extra night and need to combine OKW and BCV pts to book that night. at 7 months, you can pool pts as long as they are under the same membership number (this is true of add-ons.) there is no benefit to transferring pts that are under the same membership number.

OTOH, if you want to book OKW with VB pts, it's not under the same master contract. you can still book OKW with VB pts at 7 months, but you can't pool OKW and VB pts to book a single night. you would have to book a couple of extra nights at OKW with VB pts and try to link those separate reservations.

(if you wanted to pool VB pts with OKW pts to book a single night's stay, you would need to use up the once-per-year transfer for both your OKW contract and your VB contract. as a result, you would be unable to transfer any points from your other resale contract (VWL in this case) to your OKW contract until the next year).

clearer?

 

[chalee94]

Can anyone answer this: if I buy a smaller contract from 2 or more resorts, then can I do the one time per year transfer in for each contract?

if you mean that you bought 2 small resales and those were the only contracts you owned, then yes, you would be able to transfer in pts for each contract. you could transfer extra pts from a BCV owner to your BCV contract and book BCV at 11 months and then transfer extra pts from a BWV owner to your BWV contract and book BWV at 11 months, if that is what you are asking.

 

[Uncle Remus]

double post, Dang DIS is slow sometimes.

 

[Uncle Remus]

BTW, i saw you coming and tried to head you off at the pass...




it's a whole lot easier if you just buy where you want to stay.

but let's say you have a master contract at OKW, and then add-on at BCV and BWV directly through disney...and then buy resales with different UY months at VWL and VB.

at 7 months, if you want to book OKW with BCV pts, you can do it with no problem...including if you want to add an extra night and need to combine OKW and BCV pts to book that night. at 7 months, you can pool pts as long as they are under the same membership number (this is true of add-ons.) there is no benefit to transferring pts that are under the same membership number.

OTOH, if you want to book OKW with VB pts, it's not under the same master contract. you can still book OKW with VB pts at 7 months, but you can't pool OKW and VB pts to book a single night. you would have to book a couple of extra nights at OKW with VB pts and try to link those separate reservations.

(if you wanted to pool VB pts with OKW pts to book a single night's stay, you would need to use up the once-per-year transfer for both your OKW contract and your VB contract. as a result, you would be unable to transfer any points from your other resale contract (VWL in this case) to your OKW contract until the next year).

clearer?

if you mean that you bought 2 small resales and those were the only contracts you owned, then yes, you would be able to transfer in pts for each contract. you could transfer extra pts from a BCV owner to your BCV contract and book BCV at 11 months and then transfer extra pts from a BWV owner to your BWV contract and book BWV at 11 months, if that is what you are asking.

Hey Charles, I got my mind wrapped around wantin' to be at Disney so dang bad right now, tryin' to decide which resort DVCs I really need and tryin' to keep up with my DVC subscriptions here.

Thanks

I won't even tell ya how much my mind has changed in the last 2 days, but thanks for all the info, I'm hopin' one day I'm gonna look back on this and wonder why in the heck did I worry about such crazy things, kwim?

I think I'm goin' thru withdrawl, I just need 4 good days at Disney.

 

[LisaS]

Can anyone answer this: if I buy a smaller contract from 2 or more resorts, then can I do the one time per year transfer in for each contract?

It depends on how the contracts are set up. The first contract you purchase becomes your Master contract. If you purchase an "add on" to that Master (any resort but same UY), the two contracts function as one in some respects. If they are for the same resort you can treat them like one contract with one pool of points. If they are different resorts then you have 11-month booking privileges at two resorts up to the number of points you own at a each resort. (The home resort booking privilege applies when booking at that resort with the points you own at that resort. Just because you own at BCV for example does not allow you to use OKW points there in the home resort booking window.) If your Master and add on are at two different resorts then you cannot pool the points to book one or the other of those resorts 11 months out but you can pool the points at 7 months out to book at any resort.

If you purchase a contract with a different Use Year (even if it is at the same resort) it is not an "add on" but a new Master contract with a unique membership number. It's as if you are two different members and the contracts cannot be combined. In this case you can use your one transfer per UY to transfer points out of one contract and into the other. If the contracts are for different resorts, the points retain their original home resort and UY. So if you own at BCV and OKW for example, transferring OKW points into your BCV contracts does not morph them into BCV points.

 

[Tara]

Can anyone answer this: if I buy a smaller contract from 2 or more resorts, then can I do the one time per year transfer in for each contract?

Yes, you can transfer points, but those points retain their home resort status, so transferring wouldn't help you with the 11-month booking advantage. (That's my understanding - I'm sure someone else will correct me if I'm wrong.)

 

[Uncle Remus]

Here's the real problem:

when folks say: it's a whole lot easier if you just buy where you want to stay.


I guess I'm just not in the habit of makin' vacation plans so far in advance, but since ya gotta book these smaller resorts so far in advance to get what ya want, it looks like ya gotta have an ownership in more than one to get that 11 month window. In other words, if I wanna stay at both BCV 'n BWV doin' a split stay, I best have both as a home resort.

I also like SSR, stayed there last Nov, it's so laid back, but it appears ya can get pretty much what ya want there at the 7th month window coz of the resort size, plenty of rooms.

 

[Uncle Remus]

It depends on how the contracts are set up. The first contract you purchase becomes your Master contract. If you purchase an "add on" to that Master (any resort but same UY), the two contracts function as one in some respects. If they are for the same resort you can treat them like one contract with one pool of points. If they are different resorts then you have 11-month booking privileges at two resorts up to the number of points you own at a each resort. (The home resort booking privilege applies when booking at that resort with the points you own at that resort. Just because you own at BCV for example does not allow you to use OKW points there in the home resort booking window.) If your Master and add on are at two different resorts then you cannot pool the points to book one or the other of those resorts 11 months out but you can pool the points at 7 months out to book at any resort.

If you purchase a contract with a different Use Year (even if it is at the same resort) it is not an "add on" but a new Master contract with a unique membership number. It's as if you are two different members and the contracts cannot be combined. In this case you can use your one transfer per UY to transfer points out of one contract and into the other. If the contracts are for different resorts, the points retain their original home resort and UY. So if you own at BCV and OKW for example, transferring OKW points into your BCV contracts does not morph them into BCV points.

That's good info for folks who may not know that, my idea is to transfer points from another BCV or BWC owner to one of my contracts if I ever got caught short or would want to buy a bunch for a party.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Yes, you can transfer points, but those points retain their home resort status, so transferring wouldn't help you with the 11-month booking advantage. (That's my understanding - I'm sure someone else will correct me if I'm wrong.)

Hush, no one wants to hear from you if you bought into the BLT, I'm jealous.

I'm teasin' ya, dang I wanna splurge 'n get that too.

 

[LisaS]

That's good info for folks who may not know that, my idea is to transfer points from another BCV or BWC owner to one of my contracts if I ever got caught short or would want to buy a bunch for a party.

If one is a Master and the other an add on, then it's as if you have only one contract and you get one transfer (in or out) per UY.

If they are separate Master contracts (and therefore separate memberships), I'm not sure. I've read posts stating you get one transfer per membership in which case you would get one per master contract. I've read other posts stating that you get just one transfer per member (even if you hold multiple memberships) but that you are allowed two if transferring between your own Master contracts. This might be one of those things where it depends upon which MS CM answers your call when you try to do the second transfer.

 

[Uncle Remus]

If one is a Master and the other an add on, then it's as if you have only one contract and you get one transfer (in or out) per UY.

If they are separate Master contracts (and therefore separate memberships), I'm not sure. I've read posts stating you get one transfer per membership in which case you would get one per contract. I've read other posts stating that you get just one transfer per member (even if you hold multiple memberships) but that you are allowed two if transferring between your own Master contracts. This might be one of those things where it depends upon which MS CM answers your call when you try to do the second transfer.

Yikes, Lisa, if that is true that really could mess up my dang plan!

Geeez, I may have to get another name too.