Upgrade to annual pass?

connorlevismom

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I bought a 10day, park hopper, non-exp. pass for our last trip thinking that we would use most of it. We ended p only using 2 or 3 days of it because the weather was so hot, and I was pregnant and did not feel like sitting in that heat.

Now we are going in a few weeks and will be going 2 more times in the next year. I was wondering if I can upgrade to an annual pass with this 10 day ticket. Would they take the amount of unsed days off the price or does it have to be a completely non-used ticket for them to do that?

Kristine
 
Sorry, no you will not be able to upgrade those tickets....according to Cheshire Figment (our resident Dis CM ticket specialist on the forum) You have to make the upgrade within 14 days of first using the ticket (even on a non-expiring ticket) After 14 days, your ticket is what it is & you're stuck with it.

Here's the link to the forum ticket thread, it's post #7: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1452684
 
Thanks, obviously nt the answer I was looking for, but what can you do. It is, what it is.

I don't understand the 14 day rule. Why does it matter to Disney when you first used the ticket if there are days stll left? Especially on a non-exp. ticket? That seems kind of silly to me.

But like I said, it is what it is.


Kristine
 
I don't understand the 14 day rule. Why does it matter to Disney when you first used the ticket if there are days stll left? Especially on a non-exp. ticket? That seems kind of silly to me.

The reason is that Disney does upgrades a little differently than most people expect. When you upgrade a ticket you pay the difference between the ticket you want and the ticket you have... no matter how many days have been used. Then, as far as the Disney systems are concerned, you have always had the new ticket.

For example, say you had a 5 day expiring ticket. If you used all 5 days, then upgraded to an annual pass 13 days after it was first used you would still get credit for the full price you paid for the 5 day ticket (even though all 5 days had been used), however, the expiration date of the annual pass would be based on the first day that you used the 5 day ticket... not the day that you did the upgrade. In the end, it would be the same price and you would have the same expiration date as if you had just bought an annual pass to begin with.

In your case, if they did allow you to upgrade that 10 day no expiration ticket that you first used last trip they would give you credit for the full price of the ticket, even though you had used some days, but the annual pass would expire one year from the frist day you used that ticket... it would probably already be expired and unusable.

The reason they don't just give you credit for the unused days is that the first few days are much more expensive than the last few days. On an expiring ticket, you pay $79 for the first day, $77 for the second day and $63 for the third day. Then it's just $6 for the 4th day and $3 each for the 5th through 10th days. If someone paid $237 for an 8 day ticket, then used 4 days and wanted to upgrade to an annual pass they wouldn't be happy if they only got $12 in credit as that was what the last 4 remaining days would be worth.

Each day is worth a bit more for a non expiration ticket, of course, but it's still front loaded in the same way. For example, a 10 day non expiring ticket is $452, but the first three days that you used are worth $243. So if they did allow you to get credit for the unused days you would only get $209... less than half of the cost of your original ticket, even though 7 days were still left on it.

Finally, if you're still following me here, if you're planning longer trips for this year then you're probably better off just purchasing a new AP and saving your non expiration ticket for future trips. If you're planning shorter trips this year, though, you might be better off if you can divide your remaining 7 days between two of your trips, then just purchase an expiring ticket for the third trip.

HTH,
Brett
 

I did look for an answer for this previous to posting.

I have a 1 day pass for 5 of us. At the time we bought the single day pass as part of a package to get the free dining last year. We had AP's then and did not swipe these cards in any turnstile. They did have our dining plan on them and were used to purchase goods in the park. We used our paper AP's to get in.

We are also DVC members so we get a discount on AP's. Can I apply the unused ticket to the DVC annual pass price?

Thanks,
YO
 
Yes, as long as the tickets have not been through a turnstile they are good until used. If they were purchased before the last price increase (August 2, 2009) what you need to do is use them through a turnstile and go to Guest Relations inside the Park , with your DVC Memebership Card, and do the upgrade there.
 
Finally, if you're still following me here, if you're planning longer trips for this year then you're probably better off just purchasing a new AP and saving your non expiration ticket for future trips. If you're planning shorter trips this year, though, you might be better off if you can divide your remaining 7 days between two of your trips, then just purchase an expiring ticket for the third trip.

HTH,
Brett

This is great advice. I think you may well be best off holding on to the non-expiring ticket, and getting an AP for this year. (but do run the math based on how long you plan to visit.)

Remember too, that an AP has a few added perks. The discount's aren't huge, but there are some. You may also be able to get a discounted room rate with an AP. Also, you can buy the Tab;es in Wonderland to get n additional dining discount for TS dining.
 
I don't understand the 14 day rule. Why does it matter to Disney when you first used the ticket if there are days stll left? Especially on a non-exp. ticket? That seems kind of silly to me.
Disney gives you 14 days to change your mind about the ticket you bought. If you do, things are finagled so that it appears as if you started out with the kind of ticket you end up with after the upgrade. For example if you upgrade to annual pass, the AP start date is the date of first use of the submitted ticket. And, if you used water park fun on a ticket, that ticket cannot be upgraded to a non-premium AP because, had you started out with a non-premium AP, you could not possibly have entered the water park with it.

However the policy is that no change is returned if the kind of ticket you really wanted cost less than the ticket you bought originally.

Disney hints: http://www.cockam.com/dispass.htm
 
This is great advice. I think you may well be best off holding on to the non-expiring ticket, and getting an AP for this year. (but do run the math based on how long you plan to visit.)

Remember too, that an AP has a few added perks. The discount's aren't huge, but there are some. You may also be able to get a discounted room rate with an AP. Also, you can buy the Tab;es in Wonderland to get n additional dining discount for TS dining.

I thought about that too but will be going back 2 or three times a year for the next several years. But maybe it is better still to buy the AP. We are DVC members so we get the ticket discount, which is nice.


Disney gives you 14 days to change your mind about the ticket you bought. If you do, things are finagled so that it appears as if you started out with the kind of ticket you end up with after the upgrade. For example if you upgrade to annual pass, the AP start date is the date of first use of the submitted ticket. And, if you used water park fun on a ticket, that ticket cannot be upgraded to a non-premium AP because, had you started out with a non-premium AP, you could not possibly have entered the water park with it.

However the policy is that no change is returned if the kind of ticket you really wanted cost less than the ticket you bought originally.

Disney hints: http://www.cockam.com/dispass.htm


Thanks, I understand. I should have thought about it wayyyy back last May but I would not have known we were going to go so often at that point.

Kristine
 

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