bama_ed
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For the Fort DIS Folks:
Back in Jan 2017, our DIS poster @SamRoc asked a question on the Camping Board about the Trails End bread pudding recipe (if anyone had the recipe). When she did so, I happened to be camping in the Fort (in loop 100 close to Trails End). Being innocent and naive, I walked over to Trails End mid-afternoon (when the staff and kitchen were not as busy) and simply asked about the recipe which they gladly shared with me. I came home, cut the industrial sized recipe down to home size, made a batch, and shared the recipe.
It was downloaded nearly 120 times but the feedback I got on the recipe was mixed. The provenance was undisputed but it still WASN'T the same.
I double-checked my math (the original recipe called for 16 pounds of bread/pastry and most home recipes call for 1 pound) of all ingredients and then I remembered the difficulty I had on cutting down the temp/time to bake in the original recipe (which is included with my home recipe). The Fort used a CONVECTION oven whereas I (and many of us) use a CONVENTIONAL oven (the two are not the same). A Convection oven uses a fan to move hot air around inside the oven but it recirculates the same air which means moisture does not get reduced much in a convection oven. On the flip side, an conventional oven is vented to the outside air during its entire baking cycle so moisture is lost during conventional bake time.
I had to compensate for lost moisture in my conventional conversion recipe. The original CONVECTION recipe did not lose much/any moisture.
I feel so stupid.
But I have no shame. Make a mistake? Okay - I messed up. Fix it and move on.
After consulting the internet for bread pudding recipes that used 1 pound of bread products, many/most used up to 3 cups (24 ounces of cream and milk) in a conventional oven recipe rather than 2 cups (16 ounces of cream and milk) in the convection oven recipe. I made the TE bread pudding for my family this Christmas using the extra milk/cream and it was a hit (and of a much better quality). So I share the updated recipe joyfully and will add its download count to the original "119" DL the original recipe got (and me makes "120").
The updated recipe is attached below as a PDF for you to download if you want the recipe. The original industrial size recipe is included for anyone to double check me if they wish (send corrections to me please).
So the bottom line is if you use a CONVECTION (air circulated) oven,
- use 8 oz of cream and 8 oz of milk.
If you use a CONVENTIONAL (air vented) oven (as I and many of us do),
- use 12 oz of cream and 12 oz of milk.
Bama Ed
PS - although Trails End exists still in name in 2024 and beyond, the buffet/AYCTE for breakfast and lunch/dinner does not. But one missing part of the wonderful past Trails End kitchen can live on for generations with the bread pudding.
PPS - in analyzing the recipe, the fort used any left over danishes and bread products. I used straight stale bread which was thick-sliced in 1-inch cubes approximate. But the secret to the TE recipe is in the sauce. Heavy on butter, sugar, and pecans, it differs greatly from the conventional recipes I confered with using 1 pound of bread (many of which used cream). Again, I'm simply sharing with TOTAL TRANSPARENCY the original recipe and any changes to it. Merry Christmas 2024 and long live Trails End!
PPPS - I cut down the recipe to home size (1/16th of the original) but I was unsatisfied with the amount of raisins that left me to use so I added more. Hence the plus ("+") in the recipe if you want more raisins (like I do).
Back in Jan 2017, our DIS poster @SamRoc asked a question on the Camping Board about the Trails End bread pudding recipe (if anyone had the recipe). When she did so, I happened to be camping in the Fort (in loop 100 close to Trails End). Being innocent and naive, I walked over to Trails End mid-afternoon (when the staff and kitchen were not as busy) and simply asked about the recipe which they gladly shared with me. I came home, cut the industrial sized recipe down to home size, made a batch, and shared the recipe.
It was downloaded nearly 120 times but the feedback I got on the recipe was mixed. The provenance was undisputed but it still WASN'T the same.
I double-checked my math (the original recipe called for 16 pounds of bread/pastry and most home recipes call for 1 pound) of all ingredients and then I remembered the difficulty I had on cutting down the temp/time to bake in the original recipe (which is included with my home recipe). The Fort used a CONVECTION oven whereas I (and many of us) use a CONVENTIONAL oven (the two are not the same). A Convection oven uses a fan to move hot air around inside the oven but it recirculates the same air which means moisture does not get reduced much in a convection oven. On the flip side, an conventional oven is vented to the outside air during its entire baking cycle so moisture is lost during conventional bake time.
I had to compensate for lost moisture in my conventional conversion recipe. The original CONVECTION recipe did not lose much/any moisture.


But I have no shame. Make a mistake? Okay - I messed up. Fix it and move on.

After consulting the internet for bread pudding recipes that used 1 pound of bread products, many/most used up to 3 cups (24 ounces of cream and milk) in a conventional oven recipe rather than 2 cups (16 ounces of cream and milk) in the convection oven recipe. I made the TE bread pudding for my family this Christmas using the extra milk/cream and it was a hit (and of a much better quality). So I share the updated recipe joyfully and will add its download count to the original "119" DL the original recipe got (and me makes "120").
The updated recipe is attached below as a PDF for you to download if you want the recipe. The original industrial size recipe is included for anyone to double check me if they wish (send corrections to me please).
So the bottom line is if you use a CONVECTION (air circulated) oven,
- use 8 oz of cream and 8 oz of milk.
If you use a CONVENTIONAL (air vented) oven (as I and many of us do),
- use 12 oz of cream and 12 oz of milk.
Bama Ed
PS - although Trails End exists still in name in 2024 and beyond, the buffet/AYCTE for breakfast and lunch/dinner does not. But one missing part of the wonderful past Trails End kitchen can live on for generations with the bread pudding.
PPS - in analyzing the recipe, the fort used any left over danishes and bread products. I used straight stale bread which was thick-sliced in 1-inch cubes approximate. But the secret to the TE recipe is in the sauce. Heavy on butter, sugar, and pecans, it differs greatly from the conventional recipes I confered with using 1 pound of bread (many of which used cream). Again, I'm simply sharing with TOTAL TRANSPARENCY the original recipe and any changes to it. Merry Christmas 2024 and long live Trails End!
PPPS - I cut down the recipe to home size (1/16th of the original) but I was unsatisfied with the amount of raisins that left me to use so I added more. Hence the plus ("+") in the recipe if you want more raisins (like I do).
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