Updated October 23 Read First Post Genie+ In WDW Summary To Give Disneyland People An Idea Of What To Expect

[FeistyDisneyMom]

I understand what you're saying and to an extent I agree.

My problem is that those of us who cannot ride all the G+ rides are, in essence, paying more for less.

There are a total of 19 G+ rides at DL/DCA. Of these 19, I cannot 'safely' ride 4 unless I want to take chances with motion sickness and a ruined day. This leaves me 15 rides for $20 or about $1.33 per ride. I know that's still 'cheap', but someone who can ride all of them is paying $1.05 per ride.

I'm lucky in that Scopolamine works for me or it would probably be 6 'no rides' for me, making the cost of G+ even more expensive per ride. I really feel for those whose motion sickness is really bad, have a phobia of coasters, or whose children won't get the full benefit of G+ because of height requirements. Many of them probably won't even opt for G+ because they feel it's just not worth it.

I think it would have been better for Disney to set it up so that you pay on a sliding scale for the rides you can ride (so G+ would cost me around $15.75 for 15 passes) or give 19 passes for $20 to be used as one chooses. I'd be able to use my 4 'extras' to re-ride the rides I'm able to do.

It seems like instead of calculating the cost/value based on total number of rides, it makes more sense to calculate based on minutes saved going through LL vs standby for the rides you DO ride. If someone goes on a low attendance day or just manages to really muck up their G+ selections, they could end up going on every ride but still saving less time than someone who uses G+ to minimize time in line through more careful planning/selection.

 

[BayouQueen]

There seems to be a lot of negativity surrounding the 'no repeats' so I know I'm in the minority but, it seems to me that not allowing repeats makes things fairer for everyone. I'll be thrilled if I can get on RSR et al once a day and if limiting re-visits allows more to ride at least once per day then, IMO, it's a good thing.

I suppose. But seems like most people enjoy doing a variety of things. I would love it if I was able to go on more attractions, instead of getting motion sickness.

I dunno. Just one more thing to think about -- one more constraint.

 

[Dory92130]

I understand what you're saying and to an extent I agree.

My problem is that those of us who cannot ride all the G+ rides are, in essence, paying more for less.

There are a total of 19 G+ rides at DL/DCA. Of these 19, I cannot 'safely' ride 4 unless I want to take chances with motion sickness and a ruined day. This leaves me 15 rides for $20 or about $1.33 per ride. I know that's still 'cheap', but someone who can ride all of them is paying $1.05 per ride.

I'm lucky in that Scopolamine works for me or it would probably be 6 'no rides' for me, making the cost of G+ even more expensive per ride. I really feel for those whose motion sickness is really bad, have a phobia of coasters, or whose children won't get the full benefit of G+ because of height requirements. Many of them probably won't even opt for G+ because they feel it's just not worth it.

I think it would have been better for Disney to set it up so that you pay on a sliding scale for the rides you can ride (so G+ would cost me around $15.75 for 15 passes) or give 19 passes for $20 to be used as one chooses. I'd be able to use my 4 'extras' to re-ride the rides I'm able to do.

Like this concept of ticket books..... ;D

 

[StormyCA]

Like this concept of ticket books..... ;D

Honestly, it wouldn't really surprise me if somewhere down the line......

 

[ComeToSocialize]

Has anyone else been following how the "stacking" is working at WDW? It seems like there is a meaningful difference than how Maxpass worked.

As with Maxpass, you can use the 120 minute rule (was 90 min with Maxpass) to hold 2 (or more) G+ reservations at the same time. However, unlike Maxpass, it seems that ANY time you tap into a ride, you become eligible to book another G+ selection immediately, regardless of when you last made a reservation.

For example, say you show up to the park at 9am and book Space Mountain for 11:05-12:05. At 11am, you're eligible to book another selection, so you book Indy for 1:15pm. You then tap into Space at 11:05am. You can now book ANOTHER G+ selection, even though you just booked Indy 5 minutes before. This will then have a cascading effect throughout the day as each time you tap into a ride, you can make another selection immediately.

Taking this further, say at 11:05am after you tap into Space you book RSR for 3:30pm. At 1:05pm you'd be able to make another selection, and then you could make yet another at 1:15pm when you tap into Indy. So you could for example book GotG at 3pm, Soarin at 3:15pm and you still have your RSR for 3:30pm You'd now have 3 selections, and each time you tap into one of them you'd be able to make another, all within the space of 30 minutes, so you could grab another 3 G+s for the evening.

I didn't believe this at first as this is a pretty meaningful difference from Maxpass, but in reading a bunch of posts, (clearest one is on DisneyTouristBlog) it seems to confirm that any time you tap into a ride, you become immediately eligible, even if you're in the waiting period for another selection.

Any thoughts on whether you think this will hold over for DLR? This will be even more powerful at DLR because parkhopping is so easy (lots of WDW people are pointing out that with this strategy, parkhopping is required, as they run out of rides to book in their first park due to the one per day rule).

 

[JMommyof3]

Has anyone else been following how the "stacking" is working at WDW? It seems like there is a meaningful difference than how Maxpass worked.

As with Maxpass, you can use the 120 minute rule (was 90 min with Maxpass) to hold 2 (or more) G+ reservations at the same time. However, unlike Maxpass, it seems that ANY time you tap into a ride, you become eligible to book another G+ selection immediately, regardless of when you last made a reservation.

For example, say you show up to the park at 9am and book Space Mountain for 11:05-12:05. At 11am, you're eligible to book another selection, so you book Indy for 1:15pm. You then tap into Space at 11:05am. You can now book ANOTHER G+ selection, even though you just booked Indy 5 minutes before. This will then have a cascading effect throughout the day as each time you tap into a ride, you can make another selection immediately.

Taking this further, say at 11:05am after you tap into Space you book RSR for 3:30pm. At 1:05pm you'd be able to make another selection, and then you could make yet another at 1:15pm when you tap into Indy. So you could for example book GotG at 3pm, Soarin at 3:15pm and you still have your RSR for 3:30pm You'd now have 3 selections, and each time you tap into one of them you'd be able to make another, all within the space of 30 minutes, so you could grab another 3 G+s for the evening.

I didn't believe this at first as this is a pretty meaningful difference from Maxpass, but in reading a bunch of posts, (clearest one is on DisneyTouristBlog) it seems to confirm that any time you tap into a ride, you become immediately eligible, even if you're in the waiting period for another selection.

Any thoughts on whether you think this will hold over for DLR? This will be even more powerful at DLR because parkhopping is so easy (lots of WDW people are pointing out that with this strategy, parkhopping is required, as they run out of rides to book in their first park due to the one per day rule).

I do really like that feature and I hope it continues over to us. It looks like using the stacking can really work for the PM rides (after getting your initial AM) but really the sweet spot is getting your LL selection to hover around the 120 minute mark. It also looks like if you got your first from 10:15-11:15, you can still get a new one at 11 even thought you technically have one valid. I think it also benefits us more since hopping starts earlier than at WDW. I think it would also benefit DL since none of the fantasyland rides have LL and you could knock those out first thing and start to stack the bigger rides as crowds arrive.
I'm wondering how they will handle ILL$ for DLR though. At WDW, only hotel guests can reserve at 7am and everyone else after. It would be great to have that perk for hotel guests here since there really isn't anything else besides being in "the bubble".

 

[ComeToSocialize]

I do really like that feature and I hope it continues over to us. It looks like using the stacking can really work for the PM rides (after getting your initial AM) but really the sweet spot is getting your LL selection to hover around the 120 minute mark. It also looks like if you got your first from 10:15-11:15, you can still get a new one at 11 even thought you technically have one valid. I think it also benefits us more since hopping starts earlier than at WDW. I think it would also benefit DL since none of the fantasyland rides have LL and you could knock those out first thing and start to stack the bigger rides as crowds arrive.
I'm wondering how they will handle ILL$ for DLR though. At WDW, only hotel guests can reserve at 7am and everyone else after. It would be great to have that perk for hotel guests here since there really isn't anything else besides being in "the bubble".

I agree, I think the way this works actually makes stacking even better for DLR than WDW, given more headliner rides in a condensed area, earlier hopping, and longer park hours. On the other hand, It seems like G+ selections have rarely been selling out at WDW other than Slinky Dog Dash and maybe 1 or 2 other popular rides, whereas stuff on weekends at DLR at least would sell out be evening pretty much all the time (barring cancellations).

My hope is that hotel guests at DLR will be able to book BOTH ILL$ and G+ at 7am with offsite only able to when they enter the turnstiles, but my fear is that that won't happen. I don't think DLR has the same infrastructure about linking hotel reservations with tickets with G+ (this only recently became an issue with the hotel bucket for park reservations, and even that didn't start smoothly). At WDW, everything was always linked to your hotel reservation - your Magic Band, your ability to book 60 days out vs. 30, etc). DLR hasn't really had that (you used to have to show your room key for EMH!). So I worry the IT burden will be too great. But hopefully there will be real perks for hotel guests.