Under 16 for Keys to Kingdom?

[LiLIrishChick63]

i do believe that they ask for some kind of ID now. i can't be too sure about it because it was 3 years ago i went, but i think i remember them asking for ID from everyone. why don't you take him on some of the other tours they have? they have the Mickey tour where they tell you all about his history and everything. there's a lot of other fun tours to take besides the Keys tour.

 

[Madhatter266]

We wanted to take the tour several years ago and DS was 10 days away from being 16. It didn't fly!! We had to wait until our next visit. And they did check IDs.

 

[gilld]

They didn't check ID's in September when we went.

 

[LongIslandCouple]

Gee, rules are arbitrary? You get to decide which rules you want to follow? Can we all do that? Like, can I come take your car away from you, I mean, really, that stealing rule is so arbitrary in my life...

Feel free to confuse the definitions of "rule" and "law" all you want, it doesn't invalidate my arguement.

Every person has the right to make these judgements for themselves and for their families. We all do it every day. I'm sure you are just like the rest of us, rolling through stop signs, breaking the speed limit by a few miles per hour, etc. If it is socially acceptable to break those laws, then why is it any worse to not follow a rule by stretching the truth to ensure a young adult gets more enjoyment from his vacation?

It isn't.

 

[Becky2005]

DD is waaaay under the age limit, so I haven't tried KTTK, but as far as taking a 14 year old ladies-man footballer on the Family Magic tour, I wouldn't. Maybe the Mickey's Magical Milestones Tour? We did the Family Magic when DD was 7 and she enjoyed it, but she was definitely the oldest one there. The MMM tour says it's designed for 10 and up, so that might be a good choice. (If you do it, let us know how it was. We could do it in 2 more years! lol)

I just wanted to let you know I took the MMM tour this past summer and it's designed for ages 10 & up but they will allow younger ones to go. I took my 8 year old DS on it because I knew he could handle it, he is the type that is an information sponge and he did enjoy it with doing just fine. It was myself, DD & DS-8 along with a few others. I have a trip report on it, one with spoilers (do a search under Mickey's Magical Milestone). There is no way I would have taken my 5 year old on it or something but if you have an 8-9 year old whose personality suits it, then go for it.

 

[Becky2005]

My 13 year old DD was interested in Keys to the Kingdom. Since she cannot go, I signed us both up for Mickey's Magical Milestones (ages 10 and up) for our upcoming April trip. Does anyone have any details about the tour that might help the OP and folks like me? Most importantly, I hope this tour is not geared too "young" for young teens. I certainly don't want to hear about it forever (ha ha)!

It's not really geared too young. When we took it this past summer, I want to say my kids were the only 2 kids on it but it was fairly new then. Unfortunately, DD had recently done an in-depth report on Walt Disney that year and she said she wouldn't want to repeat the tour . I thought it was interesting. DS-8 liked it too. It's definitely not geared like the Family Magic Tour is.

I did a spoiler trip report on it (just search on Mickey's Magical Milestone) from this past summer.

 

[lfama]

I agree, teach your kid to lie about his age now, so when he wants to sneak into a bar in a few years, he's really good at it. Or when he lies to you, you'll know you've trained him well!

That is different. The OP wants to take a 14 year old kid who can't go on the rides on a tour that he is probably less than 2 years shy of being able to go on so that his vacation is not ruined; that is not going to be the gateway of lies and sneaking into bars underage. That's just silly. Obviously, a 14 year old is going to know right from wrong and know that going on a 16 and over tour at Disney World isn't going to have consequences as would sneaking into a bar underage or lying to their parents would.

My mother used to help me sneak into places; when I was 14, she helped me get dressed up like I was 16 so I could get into a taping of a show where my favorite band was performing. I turned out just fine. And to think, I could have taken from that experience that it is ok to lie and sneak into bars underage. Darn, I missed out.

Honestly, I think you're making a big deal over nothing. The 16 and over rule is, like other posters have said, there so that small children cannot get in, probably because it will ruin the magic, perhaps, and also because it's a long tour and small children are probably an interference at points.

 

[DisneyMim]

I've done a couple of the tours. My son wanted to do one two years ago, but he was 15 and he wasn't allowed. I know that they sometimes ask for IDS. I had to show mine.

 

[2giddy4wdw]

That is different. The OP wants to take a 14 year old kid who can't go on the rides on a tour that he is probably less than 2 years shy of being able to go on so that his vacation is not ruined; that is not going to be the gateway of lies and sneaking into bars underage. That's just silly. Obviously, a 14 year old is going to know right from wrong and know that going on a 16 and over tour at Disney World isn't going to have consequences as would sneaking into a bar underage or lying to their parents would.

My mother used to help me sneak into places; when I was 14, she helped me get dressed up like I was 16 so I could get into a taping of a show where my favorite band was performing. I turned out just fine. And to think, I could have taken from that experience that it is ok to lie and sneak into bars underage. Darn, I missed out.

Honestly, I think you're making a big deal over nothing. The 16 and over rule is, like other posters have said, there so that small children cannot get in, probably because it will ruin the magic, perhaps, and also because it's a long tour and small children are probably an interference at points.

I totally agree with this. It's not going to ruin a child for life, just to get him into a tour at Disney World. The unfortunate part is there really isn't anything for the early teens to do. I haven't heard too much about the MMM, but if someone took their 8 year old in and it's for 10 and up, what's that saying about her. My daughter is 13 and would love to do one of the tours. She knows so much about Disney, especially because her cousin works for them. It's something different if they ask for ID's now, but I feel really sorry for him and if there was a way to get him in, I say go for it. And it is a little different stretching his age getting him into a tour at Disney and him trying to get into a bar. And like someone else posted, like we all haven't bent the rules or laws at sometime in our life. Who are we to judge this person just for trying to make the most of an awful situation. They are just trying to find something for this poor kid to do to make his vacation a little happier!!! (I hope all of you never have this happen to your vacation) Good luck on whatever you chose to do!!!!

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

I think there are tours with "recommended" ages, and I think there are tours with MANDATORY ages. We are doing MMM in August with DS9. He will be just shy of 10, I see no problem with that. It is designed for/recommended for ages 10 and up. We did Family Magic in October when he was just past 9 and he was really too old - the kids on the tour with us were from ages 2-6.

I agree 100% that the restriction on age for KTTK is most likely an insurance issue. 16 is the minimum working age in Florida, so it makes perfect sense that anyone under that age would not be allowed backstage, hence not covered if something happens. I also imagine there is a STRONG possibility that everyone will have to show ID. Better to tell him NOW that he can't go on the tour than to be embarrassed by being turned away at tour check-in!

 

[Becky2005]

I I haven't heard too much about the MMM, but if someone took their 8 year old in and it's for 10 and up, what's that saying about her.

I had to respond to this - on the Mickey's Magical Milestone there IS No age requirement it's a recommended age NOT a MUST BE age. Technically you could take your 4 year old on there if you wanted to, they wouldn't get much out of it but it's not restricted. If it had a "must be age 10 & up" I wouldn't have taken my 8 year old on it. They even knew he was 8 years old when I booked. I didn't lie about his age to get him in. I told them he was 8. Horseback riding is age 9 & up - guess what, I didn't allow the 8 year old to go.

Here is the difference direct from the Disney World site:

Mickey's Magical Milestone says:

"Book a tour in advance by calling (407) WDW-TOUR.

This tour is recommended for Guests ages 10 and older. "

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Keys to the Kingdom says:
"Book a tour in advance by calling (407) WDW-TOUR.
Guests must be at least 16 years old to attend this program. "

 

[kaytieeldr]

Every person has the right to make these judgements for themselves and for their families.

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I'm sure you are just like the rest of us, rolling through stop signs

Absolutely - but when one's judgement conflicts with the policy of the company one is attempting to patronize, that company's restrictions overrule the person's judgment.
Apocryhal story, or joke: "Driver rolls his vehicle through a stop sign. Traffic officer pulls him over. Driver says, 'But I slowed down'. Officer starts tapping man on head with nightstick and replies, 'Now, do you want me to slow down or do you want me to stop?'"
Rolling through a stop sign is breaking the law.

Obviously, a 14 year old is going to know right from wrong and know that going on a 16 and over tour at Disney World isn't going to have consequences as would sneaking into a bar underage or lying to their parents would.
My mother used to help me sneak into places; when I was 14, she helped me get dressed up like I was 16 so I could get into a taping of a show where my favorite band was performing. I turned out just fine. And to think, I could have taken from that experience that it is ok to lie and sneak into bars underage. Darn, I missed out

Ah, but the issue isn't specifically the age - it's the lying. You DID 'learn' that it's okay to lie to get something you want.

From allearsnet.com: "Please note that (unless noted in the description below) tour participants must be 16 years of age or older."
It says MUST, not should. Disney's restrictions.

 

[Joanna71985]

This is from an official Disney site:

Restrictions: Guests must be at least 16 years old to attend this program. Please advise guests this is an outdoor walking program. Guests are required to have a photo ID in their possession during the program. Large bags and cameras are NOT permitted.

 

[Schmeck]

Thanks for the back-up!

Yes, a rule and a law are somewhat different, as the process for creating a law is much more difficult. It's a rule with muscle.

So, go ahead and let your child go on the tour (if they don't ID him - hey, wait, make a fake ID for him too!) so that he doesn't "suffer". Sure, rules are for those other guys, your kids are so special they don't have to follow the rules they don't want to.

It starts out small, seems harmless, right? But I see those "special" kids at our local high school every day, they don't understand the word NO means NO, that deadlines are deadlines, etc. I could go on and on, but those who allow their kid to lie (encourage them to, actually) will get it back at them, I hope.

 

[VSL]

Not only would I lie, I'm GOING to lie. My son that won't turn 16 until August will be touring with me in June.

Wow.. and what if they ID you? I'm sure he'll feel so great about being told 'no' there and then after you've told him that it will be fine..

 

[DebbieB]

This is from an official Disney site:

Restrictions: Guests must be at least 16 years old to attend this program. Please advise guests this is an outdoor walking program. Guests are required to have a photo ID in their possession during the program. Large bags and cameras are NOT permitted.

I think the ID is not only for age but also for security. You will be going into sensitive areas.

 

[lfama]

Thanks for the back-up!

Yes, a rule and a law are somewhat different, as the process for creating a law is much more difficult. It's a rule with muscle.

So, go ahead and let your child go on the tour (if they don't ID him - hey, wait, make a fake ID for him too!) so that he doesn't "suffer". Sure, rules are for those other guys, your kids are so special they don't have to follow the rules they don't want to.

It starts out small, seems harmless, right? But I see those "special" kids at our local high school every day, they don't understand the word NO means NO, that deadlines are deadlines, etc. I could go on and on, but those who allow their kid to lie (encourage them to, actually) will get it back at them, I hope.

You are royally blowing a small fib way out of proportion. As I previously stated, the situation isn't going to be a gateway for the young man to lie about everything. I suppose you never lied a day in your life, hence why you are able to scold everyone else so harshly. (Otherwise, if you did lie, then you must be a horrible, lying person, since you are saying that someone who says they are 16 when they're really 14 is going to turn out to be a compulsive liar who doesn't take no for an answer!)

 

[ibelieveintink3]

I've gone to WDW many times but have not heard of keys to the kingdom, i am sixteen..what is this all about! haha

 

[Deb & Bill]

You know, the people who don't like Disney's rules are going to do anything they please. So, the people who follow the rules will wind up paying for the increases in cost because of the people who squeeze the extra people in the room. We'll all have to use the biometric scanner for tickets (sometimes slowing down the line) because of all the people who refused to buy a new ticket from Disney and used tickets off E-bay.

Might as well close this thread because the people who don't follow the rules will continue to say that it doesn't hurt anyone for them to do anything they want.

Karma, people, karma.

But, it's 16 yrs, not younger.

 

[EjandMD]

Really guys, I was just asking if they ever let anyone under 16 take the tour. Please I know people on this board love to get all holier than thou, I don't know why? It doesn't happen on the other boards, just this one. He's not going, I called the tours and no one ever returned my phone call So we will do without. He's a good kid, I don't serve him alcohol or buy cigeretts for him...so I'm not corrupting him. We just wanted to know if they would waive the age requirement, that's all. It's fine really.