Uh-Oh! White kids in RI want a White Scholarship!

[Christine]

Originally posted by IMGONNABE40!
I don't see where the Supreme Court would even have authority to hear the case.

That was a tongue-and-cheek exaggeration on my part, not meant to be serious or intelligent!

 

[IMGONNABE40!]

Gotcha! So hard to tell emotion when reading a thread. I understand what you are saying by the way. In an ideal world none of this would be necessary!

 

[goofy4tink]

As my 30 y/o son said today..."Mom, I'm finally part of a minority...young white males." But, then again, there is my sil, very intelligent..but not above using the black female card if needed in the past. I just don't think race/ethnicity should be listed on scholarships. Everyone keeps screaming for equality. Let's just be equal then. I also don't want a doctor caring for me that got the job because of his race/religion/ethnic background. Man, I want the doc with the best grades!!!!

 

[Cindy B]

Well, I can say in the late 80's -early 90's I dated a guy whose father just happened to be a director of admissions for a law school.

Being at my then BF's house, I would see the dad sorting out applications for the school at home.

There were always two piles.. one for non whites (primarily African American), and the other Caucasian pile.

I once asked him about it, and if the lower grade point, minority student would get admission due to quotas,etc.. while a harder working (higher GPA student, more academically inclined, more well rounded student ) would not be accepted due to the color of thier skin...


He said yes, and it happened all the time.

Then, as I was applying to colleges at the time as well... would always put OTHER down on college applications.

 

[Virgo10]

Originally posted by IMGONNABE40!


PS I spent 5 minutes trying to find the correct spelling for perogative. I can't seem to figure out how to spell check when I post a reply. If anyone knows the correct spelling please let me know! Thanks.

Go figure

pre·rog·a·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-rg-tv)
n.
An exclusive right or privilege held by a person or group, especially a hereditary or official right. See Synonyms at right.
The exclusive right and power to command, decide, rule, or judge: the principal's prerogative to suspend a student.
A special quality that confers superiority.

adj.
Of, arising from, or exercising a prerogative.


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[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin praerogtva, feminine of praerogtvus, asked first, from praerogtus, past participle of praerogre, to ask before : prae-, pre- + rogre, to ask; see reg- in Indo-European Roots.]
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pre·roga·tived adj.


Added: One of my favorite sites:
http://dictionary.reference.com/

And you don't have to know how to spell the word to look it up.

 

[IMGONNABE40!]

Thank you Virgo 10! I hate to sound ignorant, especially on a thread about academic scholarships I will make a note of that. I never would have guessed PRE instead of PER!

 

[Disney Doll]

I think scholarships should be awarded on merit or choice of major(ie-The Frank Sinatra Memorial Scholarship goes to someone majoring in music). I don't think race or gender should ever come into play.

However, since there are scholarships specifically directed for "people of color"(as my Jamaican-American colleague says "not all black folks are from Africa"), then I see no reason not to have scholarships which are directed only for white people.

 

[septbride2002]

I have to agree with what everyone else is saying. When I was going to college and searching out scholarships this is what I discovered about myself ---- the only thing I had going for me was that I was a woman.

GPA - Average
Income - Middle Class Average
ACT Score - Average

I have no physical handicaps, am not a daughter of the revolution, was not Native American, African American, Pacific Islander, or any other nation origin. Therefore - being an American is Average.

Did not grow up in an Urban area

And here is the kicker - my family spent more then they made and I could prove it but I still received no scholarships. So I had to pay for my entire college education by myself which means by age 22 I was $30,000 in debt. That is with 2 years of Community College and 2 years of a Private 4 year college. Many of my friends with different national origin or ethnic backround (who I love dearly) were better off financially with their families and received up to $10,000 in scholarships - none of them being for academics.

The truth about college for middle class caucasion folks is this if you are middle class then the government feels that your family should still be able to support your education and are not going to finacially help you out.

If you were lets say lower middle class or in a lower income bracket more then likely you could receive enough money for college through scholarships. Therefore actually making less money in the real world helps you get to college. Or you better hope you parents have a college fund for you, or you can do what I did and work a full time job, while going to school full time for 4 years.

~Amanda

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by septbride2002
The truth about college for middle class caucasion folks is this if you are middle class then the government feels that your family should still be able to support your education and are not going to finacially help you out. ~Amanda

Just wondering ----- I know all classes of people support our nation, but which classification of citizens supports the government, the most? I don't think I'm wrong, but isn't it the middle class? Not only are we the major "cash register" of the USA, but we also have to pay for our education, with minimal support.

Please don't flame me --- my parents had 4 boys in college (back-to-back) and they were classified as middle class. I received no assistance and it took me years to pay off my college loans.

Maybe Pete will start a "United DIS College Fund?" How about it Pete?

 

[Bob O]

I dont think that scholarships should be based on race/sex/color/creed but based on merit and performance. But sadly those among us who claim to colorblind are the same ones who are putting us into small individual groups that support race based college admission policies and also scholarships. Also the ones who support a black history month but would never support a white history month, these are all meant to divide us as americans rather than unite the country so we are all part of a shared american experience.
As for the question posed benaeth me-
There is new data for 2001. The share of total income taxes paid by the top 1% fell to 33.89% from 37.42% in 2000. This is mainly because their income share (not just wages) fell from 20.81% to 17.53%. However, their average tax rate actually rose slightly from 27.45% to 27.50%.


*Data covers calendar year 2001, not fiscal year 2001 - and includes all income, not just wages, excluding Social Security
This proves that it was not the tax cut that caused revenues from the rich to fall, but the recession and the stock market crash. In other words, you live by the sword, you die by the sword. If you are going to benefit from the rich paying more taxes, due to progressivity, on the upside, you are going to lose more revenue from these people on the downside. This is a good argument for reducing progressivity.

Think of it this way: less than four dollars out of every $100 paid in income taxes in the United States is paid by someone in the bottom 50% of wage earners. Are the top half millionaires? Noooo, more like "thousandaires." The top 50% were those individuals or couples filing jointly who earned $26,000 and up in 1999. (The top 1% earned $293,000-plus.) Americans who want to are continuing to improve their lives - and those who don't want to, aren't. Here are the wage earners in each category and the percentages they pay:

Top 5% pay 53.25% of all income taxes (Down from 2000 figure: 56.47%). The top 10% pay 64.89% (Down from 2000 figure: 67.33%). The top 25% pay 82.9% (Down from 2000 figure: 84.01%). The top 50% pay 96.03% (Down from 2000 figure: 96.09%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.97% of all income taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 17.53 (2000: 20.81%) of all income. The top 5% earns 31.99 (2000: 35.30%). The top 10% earns 43.11% (2000: 46.01%); the top 25% earns 65.23% (2000: 67.15%), and the top 50% earns 86.19% (2000: 87.01%) of all the income.
T

 

[Cindy B]

Originally posted by Disney Doll
I think scholarships should be awarded on merit or choice of major(ie-The Frank Sinatra Memorial Scholarship goes to someone majoring in music). I don't think race or gender should ever come into play.

However, since there are scholarships specifically directed for "people of color"(as my Jamaican-American colleague says "not all black folks are from Africa"), then I see no reason not to have scholarships which are directed only for white people.

As I just completed a scholarship application, I did note that most were major specific. I am an education major, and there are at least four specific education major scholarships.

I did notice that there were a few scholarships for single mothers that are non traditional students. I can't say that I disagree with that, because a work mate of mine is on this scholarship. She maintains a 4.0, works two jobs, and has a nine year old.

As I am a non traditional student, I am hoping that I can receive a merit scholarship.