Ughh.....my daughter was offensive.....

AC7179

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My daughter ( just turned 12) spent the day shopping with her friend, friend's mom, and friend's mom's friend in the city. After a long day of shopping, they stop at a fast food restaurant on the way home. Apparently the order was really messed up. My daughter said, jokinging, "This, my friends, is why you go to college," about the workers that messed up their order. Apparently the mom's friend was very offended by this and pretty much attacked my daughter, telling her that she didn't have a degree and she had plently of money, thank you very much, and didn't have to work at a fast food place. From what I can gather, it turned into a very big deal and the friend was very, very offended.

I know that my daughter was probably trying to be funny and it fell flat. I don't think what she said was funny and, had I been with her, would have told her to get off her high horse and quit acting superior. I'm the only person in her immediate family with a degree, it's not like we look down on people without them. I feel awful that she was so offensive. The only thing I can guess that the comment came from is we tell her she needs to go to college so she doesn't end up in a dead end job. I am just sick over this incident. I'm afraid she won't be invited to go places with this particular friend (very nice girl) anymore. She is usually a lovely little girl, but this is probably the second or third time this year she has said something like that that could be taken so offensively. I don't really know what the next step should be.........do you think that the lady making a big scene about it is punishment enough? I'm sure she was VERY embarrassed and felt badly once she realized she had hurt someone's feelings......and I know she would never do so on purpose, but the point is that she did it. Thoughts, anyone?
 
Sorry, I know it's not pc, but that would have made me chuckle. ;) I get her point, but I also see how some would be offended. If she feels badly, then I think being jumped all over like she was is definitely punishment enough.
 
AC7179 said:
My daughter said, jokinging, "This, my friends, is why you go to college," about the workers that messed up their order. Apparently the mom's friend was very offended by this and pretty much attacked my daughter, telling her that she didn't have a degree and she had plently of money, thank you very much, and didn't have to work at a fast food place. From what I can gather, it turned into a very big deal and the friend was very, very offended.

It sounds to me that the other kid's Mom has some hang ups about never going to college. :rolleyes:

Your daughter was right on....I once had a college professor tell us that the kids that didn't go to college were saying "Do you want fries with that?".

I know not everyone will end up like that but in todays world you almost HAVE to have a college degree to be successful.
 
Food for thought...
Have her play "fast food worker" for a few nights - she has to take the order in the morning, set the table, get the drinks, help make the meal if possible, serve, and clean up. Maybe this will help teach her that it is a lot of hard work regardless of education and everyone makes mistakes.

Also she should make a formal apology to the other parent - something to the effect of "I just wanted to say I am sorry for my comment the other day at _______ fill in restaurant name. I was trying to be funny but realize now that it was in poor taste and am sorry to have offended anyone"
 

Are you sure she is embarrassed? Or is that what you are hoping? Yikes, alot of kids that are going to college are working fast food jobs.
 
SherryNC said:
Sorry, I know it's not pc, but that would have made me chuckle. ;) I get her point, but I also see how some would be offended. If she feels badly, then I think being jumped all over like she was is definitely punishment enough.

Actually I would have chuckled too....as long as she did not say it to the waitress/waitor! I tell my daughter all the time, do good in school or you will end up flipping burgers for the rest of your life!
 
I don't know. I think it is kind of funny. ;)

I would just tell her to keep those types of jokes in her standup routine only. ;)
 
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AC7179 said:
I don't really know what the next step should be.........do you think that the lady making a big scene about it is punishment enough? I'm sure she was VERY embarrassed and felt badly once she realized she had hurt someone's feelings......and I know she would never do so on purpose, but the point is that she did it. Thoughts, anyone?


I hope you don't punish your child. She shouldn't have been humiliated by an "adult" for an offhand comment she meant as a joke. :(
 
tiggersmom2 said:
It sounds to me that the other kid's Mom has some hang ups about never going to college. :rolleyes:

Your daughter was right on....I once had a college professor tell us that the kids that didn't go to college were saying "Do you want fries with that?".

I know not everyone will end up like that but in todays world you almost HAVE to have a college degree to be successful.

:confused3 I know alot of people without degrees who are successful and ones with degrees who are living peaycheck to paycheck/working 2 jobs :confused3
 
She's not home yet. I haven't talked to her.

Of course, I am hoping that she is embarrassed that she hurt someone's feelings. I'm sure that she is----she is not a mean child, she just is not always spot on regarding her judgement, obviously. Thanks to all who responded.......We have told her that any job that is an honest job is not shameful----but that we hope and want more than that for her. I honestly think she just made a bad jugement call and a joke that fell flat and am trying to find the best way to deal with it.
 
Michie said:
:confused3 I know alot of people without degrees who are successful and ones with degrees who are living peaycheck to paycheck/working 2 jobs :confused3

Good for you......but still...most people with degrees ARE successful. Just like Aprilgail tells her kid to do good in school or she will be flipping hamburgers....I tell my 11 yr. old the same thing.

Like it or not.....college usually ensures a better life.
 
AC7179 said:
I honestly think she just made a bad jugement call and a joke that fell flat and am trying to find the best way to deal with it.


I would "deal with it" by having a little chat with the adult that humiliated my child in public. :rolleyes:
 
:rotfl: This sorta reminds me about something that happened a few weeks ago :rotfl2: I volunteer at a thrift store owned by a Hospice. I usually go in and clean and go through items that are dropped off :earseek: Anyway this guy comes in, and he buys something. Anyway the total was 2.35. He gave me 2 one dollar bills and a dime and a nickle, the new one.Anyway, I told him he stil owed, and he goes "what, are you stupid? No wonder you work here." :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: His buddy had to point out his mistake. :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
 
Sounds just like something my 13 year old would have said. I would have laughed because I know him, he wouldn't have meant it to put anyone down at all, he would just try to be funny. I think the friend's mom has some issues.
 
Unless your DD directly said that to the fast food worker, I would not find it an offensive comment at all. What would upset me a great deal more is another adult taking it upon herself to reprimand DD for a comment that not only has a ring of truth to it but for Pete's sake, it came from a 12 year old! If this woman is so easily offended by the comments of a child, then it is not your DD with the problem, IMHO ;)

BTW, no I do not have a college degree (I've worked retail and as a bartender most of my adult life until last DD was born and I try to instill in my children exactly what your DD is thinking...I don't want them to have to work the way I did and while a degree does not guarantee success, it certainly makes it a lot more likely). I'm sure your DD is a very sweet girl who just said the first thing that came to her (as the mom of a 12 year old DD myself, I can totally relate) ;)
 
gepetto said:
I would "deal with it" by having a little chat with the adult that humiliated my child in public. :rolleyes:


Most definitely.....that woman was so out of line!!!! :mad:
 
Whether or not it was offensive would depend on if any of the workers overheard. As for the mom's friend,( if it indeed went the way yr DD described ) it seems she has quite a problem in the rudeness department. Her behaviour seems every bit as offensive as yr daughter's remark was thoughtless. There are plenty of more thoughful approaches in letting a young person know they may have hurt some feelings--especially someone else's child! Difference is she's an adult & should well know better. Yr daughter is 12 & kids do some dumb things, youth is for learning.
On the upside, the mom's friend's tirade will insure DD will not soon forget to spare others' feelings!
:rolleyes:

Jean
 
AC7179 said:
She's not home yet. I haven't talked to her.
So, did her friend's mom call to tell you what happened? Was she upset with your daughter? I think the comment is funny too as long as it wasn't said within earshot of one of the employees. That woman was completely out of line for scolding your daughter. She should not have to apologize. Well I guess she could apologize for upsetting the woman. :rotfl:
 
I am going to have to agree that the other woman overreacted - if she was offended by the comments she should have had a discreet conversation with you about it

and I say good for you for instilling in her a desire to go to college!
 














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