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jrb967

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Just a couple of pieces of advice. I have worked in the travel industry for 20 years and travel a lot for business and pleasure. I provide this information because on our recent trip a few weeks ago, we met a family who spent the entire first day of the VC in the airport because they were late to their flight and missed the cutoff for check-in. They had to standby for hours afterwards to get on a flight, they arrived nearly 15 hours after they were supposed to because all the flights after theirs were full or overbooked. Almost all airlines overbook, some by as much as 10% or more so trying to get on standby to popular destinations like Orlando is nearly impossible. Time at WDW is too precious to spend in the airport.

Some tips:

- have assigned seats if your airline offers them. If you have seat assignments, you are less likely to get bumped from the plane if it is overbooked - as long as you show up on time.

- show up 2 or more hours before your flight, certainly no less than 1 hour. The airlines are very strict on new restrictions for the cutoff time to check bags, generally it is 45 minutes before departure for flts within the U.S. but check with your airline. I can't tell you the number of people I have seen miss their flight because they missed the cutoff to check their bags. They had time to make the flight but their bags did not. Even if you are in line in time but miss it due to the line length, they will not make exceptions.

- If you don't check-in by the cutoff time, usually 30 minutes before departure (again check with your airline), they will also give away your seats if the flight is overbooked and there are passengers who don't have seat assignments. If the flight is overbooked and you lose your seats, you may get bumped. If you are late, you most likely are standby for the next available flight, see above - could be awhile.

- Use the self check-in kiosks, if your airline offers them. They can be your friend and help you avoid the long lines. Not sure why more people don't use these but I use them nearly everytime now, including international travel. During our recent trip to WDW, the line at Orlando for our return home was huge, even at 745AM. We had checked in at the resort since our airline was a participating carrier with DME. I observed they was almost no line at the kiosks. Usually there is an agent there to help you and all you need is your flight number or frequent flyer number. For most airlines, the kiosks allow you the check-in, print your boarding passes, check your bags, even change your seats or upgrade, if other seats are available.

- Know the airline and TSA restriction on luggage. Most airlines have a 50lb minimum on bags and they do enforce it. Expect to pay if you are over. Know how many bags and what size you can check/carry-on. Know what is/isn't allowed in carry-on. It still amazes me at what people will argue with the TSA about. If in doubt, don't bring it, put it in your ziplock bag or be prepared to toss it when asked.

Sorry no advice to offer when mother nature intervenes as she seems to have done a lot lately in several cites, DFW included.

Hope this information is helpful to some.:flower3:
JoAnn
 
Great advice. Allow plenty of time at the airport. Orlando can be very busy at certain times of the day.
 
What about the time allowed for connecting flights? Any more it seems like most connecting flights allow less than one hour to change planes. Will they hold your seats? Will your luggage make it?
 
What about the time allowed for connecting flights? Any more it seems like most connecting flights allow less than one hour to change planes. Will they hold your seats? Will your luggage make it?


Generally they will not hold your flight.
Your luggage will make it. I have had luggage make connections I didn't. It seems to have a more direct route.

You can normally make it to. In MOST airports in the US you do NOT have to clear security again. That's the kicker on time in airports. I used to connect in ATL every week. Half an hour was plenty of time. You are considered "checked in" when you got on the first flight so the 30 minute rule discussed above is not necessary. That said, if you arrive with half an hour to connect go to the plane, do not stop at the newstand to get a paper, or the hamburger joint for food. I can't tell you how often I have seen folks come strolling up in ATL to discover they missed the connection. As they pitch a fit about not having enough time it's hard to feel sorry for them, they have bags from two fast food resturants in the airport and the newsstand... they had time, they just chose to spend it shopping!

If you first flight of the day is OUT of the ATL airport, you will need at LEAST two hours. Twice last week the line for security streched OUT of the termina.

If there are weather delays, acting like a jerk will not help. The agent is not God he/she cannot part the sky and clear the storm. The louder you yell the more likely you are to wind up spending all day in the airport (same for mechanical delays) And do you really want to fly when it is not safe?
 

Just a couple of pieces of advice. I have worked in the travel industry for 20 years and travel a lot for business and pleasure. I provide this information because on our recent trip a few weeks ago, we met a family who spent the entire first day of the VC in the airport because they were late to their flight and missed the cutoff for check-in. They had to standby for hours afterwards to get on a flight, they arrived nearly 15 hours after they were supposed to because all the flights after theirs were full or overbooked. Almost all airlines overbook, some by as much as 10% or more so trying to get on standby to popular destinations like Orlando is nearly impossible. Time at WDW is too precious to spend in the airport.

Some tips:

- have assigned seats if your airline offers them. If you have seat assignments, you are less likely to get bumped from the plane if it is overbooked - as long as you show up on time.

- show up 2 or more hours before your flight, certainly no less than 1 hour. The airlines are very strict on new restrictions for the cutoff time to check bags, generally it is 45 minutes before departure for flts within the U.S. but check with your airline. I can't tell you the number of people I have seen miss their flight because they missed the cutoff to check their bags. They had time to make the flight but their bags did not. Even if you are in line in time but miss it due to the line length, they will not make exceptions.

- If you don't check-in by the cutoff time, usually 30 minutes before departure (again check with your airline), they will also give away your seats if the flight is overbooked and there are passengers who don't have seat assignments. If the flight is overbooked and you lose your seats, you may get bumped. If you are late, you most likely are standby for the next available flight, see above - could be awhile.

- Use the self check-in kiosks, if your airline offers them. They can be your friend and help you avoid the long lines. Not sure why more people don't use these but I use them nearly everytime now, including international travel. During our recent trip to WDW, the line at Orlando for our return home was huge, even at 745AM. We had checked in at the resort since our airline was a participating carrier with DME. I observed they was almost no line at the kiosks. Usually there is an agent there to help you and all you need is your flight number or frequent flyer number. For most airlines, the kiosks allow you the check-in, print your boarding passes, check your bags, even change your seats or upgrade, if other seats are available.

- Know the airline and TSA restriction on luggage. Most airlines have a 50lb minimum on bags and they do enforce it. Expect to pay if you are over. Know how many bags and what size you can check/carry-on. Know what is/isn't allowed in carry-on. It still amazes me at what people will argue with the TSA about. If in doubt, don't bring it, put it in your ziplock bag or be prepared to toss it when asked.

Sorry no advice to offer when mother nature intervenes as she seems to have done a lot lately in several cites, DFW included.

Hope this information is helpful to some.:flower3:
JoAnn

JoAnn
I am curious about the items that you place in the ziplock bags. We are flying Continental and they show a nice picture of a 1 quart ziplock bag with 6 items in it. Well, my 1 quart ziplock (we have 2 of them-one for each carryon) has at least 12 items in it but they all still fit loosely without bulging out the bag. Is this going to be a problem? We really want to carry on, it's just 2 of us, but don't want to run into a problem at security with too many 2 or 3 oz bottles. We will check a bag if we have to but would do it beforehand rather than at the security check point or have to throw out some of our toiletries.
TIA.
 
My ziplock bag is generally STUFFED to the brim and I have not had any problem. The TSA says "comfortable" I asked my stuff and it didn't complain so I am assuming it's comfortable :}
 
Great Advice. Thank you so much for this thread! It may be over kill, but since I am on the East Coast and flying in the winter. We are flying in two days ahead of our cruise.
 
My ziplock bag is generally STUFFED to the brim and I have not had any problem. The TSA says "comfortable" I asked my stuff and it didn't complain so I am assuming it's comfortable :}

Well that's great news (and funny too!!). I also have one set of Tide and Downy (liquids) already preboxed, sealed and in their own shrink wrap. They will not fit in my already overstuffed 1 qt ziplocked bags as well as 10 already preshrinked wrapped Crystal Light iced tea and lemonades (these are powders). Are these items going to be a problem that they are left out on their own even though they are presealed since they were sent to me from a travel company store?
Again TIA!!
 
Well that's great news (and funny too!!). I also have one set of Tide and Downy (liquids) already preboxed, sealed and in their own shrink wrap. They will not fit in my already overstuffed 1 qt ziplocked bags as well as 10 already preshrinked wrapped Crystal Light iced tea and lemonades (these are powders). Are these items going to be a problem that they are left out on their own even though they are presealed since they were sent to me from a travel company store?
Again TIA!!

The Crystal Light is not a problem

The Tide and Downey are. They must fit in the baggie. Can you just take a few and shove them in the baggie?

The travel company store pre-sealing doesn't count.
 
The Crystal Light is not a problem

The Tide and Downey are. They must fit in the baggie. Can you just take a few and shove them in the baggie?

The travel company store pre-sealing doesn't count.

I only have one of each but they will not fit in that 1 qt bag with all the other stuff. Maybe we will just have to buy them down there. I really do think we are going to have to check a bag the more I am "pre-packing". No big deal if we do have to check one bag.
Thanks again.
 
JoAnn
I am curious about the items that you place in the ziplock bags. We are flying Continental and they show a nice picture of a 1 quart ziplock bag with 6 items in it. Well, my 1 quart ziplock (we have 2 of them-one for each carryon) has at least 12 items in it but they all still fit loosely without bulging out the bag. Is this going to be a problem? We really want to carry on, it's just 2 of us, but don't want to run into a problem at security with too many 2 or 3 oz bottles. We will check a bag if we have to but would do it beforehand rather than at the security check point or have to throw out some of our toiletries.
TIA.

You won't be able to have 2 bags each.:eek: The 3-1-1 rule states that the liquids must be no larger than 3oz. each, in a 1 qt. baggie and 1 baggie per passenger. My husband and I manage fine with the 1 bag each. You may need to downsize.
 
You won't be able to have 2 bags each.:eek: The 3-1-1 rule states that the liquids must be no larger than 3oz. each, in a 1 qt. baggie and 1 baggie per passenger. My husband and I manage fine with the 1 bag each. You may need to downsize.

I meant we have 2 bags-one for each carry-on, which is one bag for each of us. I still think we are going to be checking a bag. :guilty:
 

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