Toy Story 3 Cancelled

[GrimGhost]

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According to a poster at Animation Nation, Catmull and Lasseter "announced to Feature Animation employees [Tuesday] that the 'Toy Story 3' production will end effectively [Tuesday]. They said that sequels should only be made if there is a really great story that demands it, and should be the domain of those who created the original film."

Lasseter gets it. I never had any doubt. He really gets it.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Here are two news stories on this subject:

'Toy Story 3' to be retooled at Pixar: sources (Reuters, Thu. Jan 26, 2006).

Deal Ends Quarrel Over Pixar Sequels (Los Angeles Times, Thu. Jan 26, 2006) — may require registration

 

[airlarry!]

What a boneheaded move!

How can Lasseter and Catmull sacrifice short term profits for long term value? Don't they know how much money can be made by making these sequels? They are much less expensive to make and have built in brand loyalty.

I don't who the heck these guys are, but they should both be fired from Pixar, unless they recant and start working on Toy Storys III, IV, V, and VI immediately. Forget new stories, I want to know what happens to when Woody's sister moves into the toy room.

 

[TSR6]

How many times can you flog the dead horse?

 

[ekmdisney]

I'm glad that TS3 has been put down. Seeing how PIXAR was NOT doing the work, Disney was. Now that Lasater and his gang have control over the animated movies progects, the retooling of TS3 is a good idea. It means that they will take thier time and work on the story and give us a high quality bit of work. And who know TS3 might end up on the big screen like TS2 did. Seeing how TS2 was suppose to be a DTV release that was just to good for that.

 

[airlarry!]

How many times can you flog the dead horse?

M. TSR6, when did the horse die?

There are some on this very board who still believe:

• Disney should be out of the 2D market
• Disney's recent strategy of DTV sequels has been good for the company
• Ideas like issuing new Pooh episodes with a female character instead of Pooh make good business sense

The news swirling around the Disney/Pixar purchase adds a new wrinkle to evaluating these beliefs. In my opinion, it signals a shift in thinking. I don't believe Igor cares one way or the other whether Disney re-enters the 2D market or ever produces another full-length animated feature.

But MiniME appears willing to allow others to make that decision. Whether it is by necessity, choice, or impulse, well, that's another topic for debate.

I will say this. I said in six months Igor could erase his image as Ei$ner's manservant. I cannot tell a lie. This move is certainly big enough, daring enough, out of the box enough to be considered. (Of course, it could also easily be construed as another sign that Igor thinks content should be bought by Disney not created.)

 

[daber]

How many times can you flog the dead horse?

When did Bullseye die? Maybe that was the plot of Toy Story III

 

[2Xited4Disney]

[*]Disney's recent strategy of DTV sequels has been good for the company

Obviously it is good for the company. They are putting out Low Budget sequels that people will buy or rent on DVD and VHS. So they are making a profit. The problem is which company are you talking about? Walt's Walt Disney Company was not about profit it was about creativity and innovention. Eisner's Walt Disney Company was about putting out low budget items to return a profit (of course there were occasions where high budget items were used{Splash Mountain} FORTUNEATELY Iger's Walt Disney Company is going to be about creativity (I am basing this on the fact that part of the deal with Pixar John Lassiter, the creative genious behind most of the Disney-Pixar Movies is going to be involved with the immagineers. With this move I believe it is the end of attractions without storys behind them (Primeviel Whirl)

 

[groovy~disney]

While I acknowledge that the DTV sequels are of lesser quality than the originals, I don't share the same sentiment as most of their "value". Yes, they make money for the company which allows the Disney Company to purchase and build e-ticket rides like E:E and build new resorts and parks. They also help ensure the future of Disney by targeting a young audience (I would say Disney is making these for ages 3-10 approximately) and getting them hooked on Disney. IMHO, I don't believe that these DTV sequels take away anything from the original. I have seen a few but I don't think any less of the original because these are of lesser quality. Unless there are facts out there (and maybe there are b/c I didn't research these comments, just my thoughts) that tell me these do not make money for the company or help build a fan base, then I stand by my comments. If there are and you bring them to my attention, I will stand corrected. I also know about Walt's quote that you can't top pigs with pigs or something to that effect and I love what Walt's vision was, but don't tell me he wasn't about making money for his company or that he didn't want to draw in a larger audience, that is why he originally explored the TV medium in the first place, at least to my understanding.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to stir anything up and I would love to hear any rational/civilized responses, I love to learn if I'm in the wrong. Thanks and have a WOW day!

 

[groovy~disney]

Let me add one thing, I'm also glad they halted the making of TS3, my reason is that they didn't have the Pixar people working on it. I don't think that would have been fair to the franchise if Disney tried to make another sequel without Pixar's assistance. Pixar dreamed up the franchise in the first place so they should have creative input. I think if the Pixar people have a good idea for another story involving the Toy Story characters, then by all means make it and release it at theatres, I believe they could make another quality theatre release if they have a good story to back it up. If not, a DTV release wouldn't upset me as long as they allow the original creators to work on it.

 

[Gopher#1]

I am happy they they have haulted TS3, and I was never a big fan of the DTV sequals. I don't have a problem with low budget for profit, but if they do that at least give it some quality. Those sequals did not have good storylines or character development, this is what turned me away from them. You wouldn't need to spend a lot on a movie, just as long as it has a good story/characters. I hope Disney will go back to it's days of quality and creativity.

 

[raidermatt]

How many times can you flog the dead horse?

I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[raidermatt]

Let me 'splain.

No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

As long as Disney continued to make the cheap sequels at every opportunity, like with TS3*, the horse did indeed appear to be dead.

Now that they have shut one down for quality/strategic concerns, the horse is most certainly alive.


*It should be noted that the only thing that has held Disney back from making sequels to the Pixar films has been Pixar themselves. Yes, Disney had the right to do it, but they also didn't want to irreperably harm the Pixar relationship. They only started up TS3 when it was looking like the relationship would end anyway.

 

[TSR6]

Let me 'splain.

No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

As long as Disney continued to make the cheap sequels at every opportunity, like with TS3*, the horse did indeed appear to be dead.

Now that they have shut one down for quality/strategic concerns, the horse is most certainly alive.


*It should be noted that the only thing that has held Disney back from making sequels to the Pixar films has been Pixar themselves. Yes, Disney had the right to do it, but they also didn't want to irreperably harm the Pixar relationship. They only started up TS3 when it was looking like the relationship would end anyway.

Thank you! There is only so much you can beat out of the story line and/or charactors. What is the average attention span of a kid?

 

[yitbos96bb]

What a boneheaded move!

How can Lasseter and Catmull sacrifice short term profits for long term value? Don't they know how much money can be made by making these sequels? They are much less expensive to make and have built in brand loyalty.

I don't who the heck these guys are, but they should both be fired from Pixar, unless they recant and start working on Toy Storys III, IV, V, and VI immediately. Forget new stories, I want to know what happens to when Woody's sister moves into the toy room.

Yeah, lets fire the guy who helped make Toy Story and Pixar what they are today. That makes sense. Just want to remind you that WALT was anti-sequel as well.

 

[DancingBear]

Yitbos, welcome to the party. If you knew any of AirLarry's history, you'd know his post was purely sarcastic.