To all smokers and non-smokers

[peachgirl]

I was just wondering about these "smoking optional rooms". I never knew they existed.

"smoking optional" is just the new more politically correct way of saying you can puff away to your heart's content in this room!
I guess by changing it from "smoking" to "smoking optional" it means you aren't forced to smoke just because you stay there.

I taught first grade for several years and teachers come to easily recognize students whose parents smoke. Not just by the smell, but so many of them have that awful telltale cough. I taught in a small, rural school and knew these parents.

I too have taught elementary age children in a rural setting where I knew the parents. I've never, ever noticed that "awful telltale cough" you speak of nor have any of my peers ever made mention of it. I'm not arguing that children should be exposed to cigarette smoke or that it's not harmful, but I think to say that you can pick out a child whose parents smoke by an "awful telltale cough" is a bit of an overstatement.

There are simply limits to what we can do as far as how other people raise their children. Quite frankly, from my experience in dealing with children, whether or not their parents smoked was the least of my worries.

 

[mrssalvaggio]

Then a lot of good people are not in their "right mind", because they do make the choice to smoke around their children. I'll just say one more time that with our freedoms comes the responsibility to make good choices, and unfortunately we have to accept the fact that not all people will.

 

[mrssalvaggio]

Sorry for my ignorant comment, peachgirl. It must have just been something in the water.

 

[Tigger Woods]

with our freedoms comes the responsibility to make good choices

Who determines whether those choices are 'good' or not? You? The Government? My Aunt Lucy? Gimme a break ...

 

[mitros]

I doubt that a " Non smoking night" would work. If a facility allows smoking 6 nights a week, not having smoking one night would not be able to be tolerated by folks that cannot be around smoke. The place would pretty much have smoke odors imbedded {not sure about that spelling} in everything. My DW is one of those and becomes ill in the presence of smoke.

 

[mrssalvaggio]

Each individual person needs to make these determinations. I'm not sure why I think you're so defensive about this (I have not meant to seem as though I was judging anyone), but if you want to quote me then how about the part where I said I have faith in our society??

 

[SCCaguioa]

This thread has turned from a FYI to a debate and should be moved.

 

[Tigger Woods]

My DW is one of those and becomes ill in the presence of smoke.

Be sure to keep her away from Illuminations. She'll probably vomit.

if you want to quote me then how about the part where I said I have faith in our society??

FAITH IN SOCIETY? This is a topic about smoking at Disney World. Maybe you should start a FAITH IN SOCIETY thread.

 

[mitros]

Whhooa! calm down friend , I was just expressing my opinion. And for your info, my DW probably would vomit in an enclosed space with a lot of smoke, but not outside in the wide open spaces. Her eyes do burn though, during Illuminations . I'm sorry if my opinions and my wifes condition offend you. PS: sorry, moderator, I know this is now off track.

 

[mrssalvaggio]

My mother warned me about people that would always try to get the last word in. That's not what I'm trying to do. No it isn't. I am not. Don't get your shorts in such a bundle and have faith in yourself that you are OK with people having opinions different than yours. Sorry op for going so off topic and I did not realize how uptight some people would get about others expressing their views.

OK, Tigger Woods - GO!! (I'll let you have the last word.)

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by baloo722
I'm a non-smoker who is sick & tired of government telling private businesses what they can allow & cannot allow when it comes to a legal activity. It is a joke. If there was such a big market for non-smoking establishments, wouldn't they have sprung up everywhere? People, we keep giving away our freedoms a little at a time, & before you know it, they're all gone....(ever hear of the patriot act?)

When people can't have common courtesy for the safety and well being of other citizens, then it's time for the government to interfere.

Second hand smoke kills. And if it means governmental action to keep the public safe from people who are committing long term suicide, and in it's course produces a homicide, then that's fine with me.

And yes, I said homicide. When the smoke of a smoker induces fatal illness in a non-smoker, the smoker has by their actions commited a murder.

Anne

 

[kinggoofy]

WOW...first time reading a few of these post since mid-yesterday afternoon.

As Mrs A. stated...my OP was intended as an FYI .....NOT a debate.

Can't we all get along ????????/

 

[diznee25]

This thread has turned from a FYI to a debate and should be moved.

I agree, please move this thread to the debate board!

 

[Tigger Woods]

Second hand smoke kills.

Spare us the cliche's. Nobody's asking you to breathe in their smoke. We're talking about designated smoking areas at Disney World. Although, I must admit, the 'murder' angle is an interesting twist.

 

[Virgo10]

Originally posted by Tigger Woods
Spare us the cliche's. Nobody's asking you to breathe in their smoke. We're talking about designated smoking areas at Disney World. Although, I must admit, the 'murder' angle is an interesting twist.

OH NO! I'm being accused of being a murderer and I've never even gotten a parking ticket.

Roberta

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by Tigger Woods
Spare us the cliche's. Nobody's asking you to breathe in their smoke.

You took my words out of context. Go back and reread my ENTIRE post as well as the one I was responding to.

Anne

 

[LvsTnk]

I guess there isn't any new info

 

[Tigger Woods]

When people can't have common courtesy for the safety and well being of other citizens, then it's time for the government to interfere.

Second hand smoke kills. And if it means governmental action to keep the public safe from people who are committing long term suicide, and in it's course produces a homicide, then that's fine with me.

And yes, I said homicide. When the smoke of a smoker induces fatal illness in a non-smoker, the smoker has by their actions commited a murder.
I stand by my original response. When people can't have common courtesy for the safety and well being of other citizens, then it's time for the government to interfere.

I stand by my response.

 

[Keeva]

I wish they would make Disney non Drinking or at least in designated areas only. Then I wouldn't have to smell the awful smell and see their kids exposed to it .Who is to blame when they grow up to be Drunk Drivers?

 

[baloo722]

"As for the comment about our government being set up so that we can govern ourselves...this law was not just passed by the legislature here in Florida. It was part of the ballot at our last election and the citizens of Florida voted on it. Obviously, the people here (by 85%) chose to ban smoking in public places."

we are not a democracy. we are not mob rule. we are a representative republic. 99% of the population could vote for something, it doesn't make it right! our leaders are sooo PC that they would never fight to overturn this. Our constitutional freedoms are wasting away, and people are actually calling second-hand smoke (which has also been proven NOT to cause illnesss in scientific studies) murderers.... glad we have things in perspective.