Tipping by category poll

[Nite0wl71]

I always tip, it doesn't matter where I stay. I used to tip at the end until I realized that not the same person cleans the room everyday.

 

[Suzanne74]

Actually, as non-tipped employees, they are technically required to turn all tips into management. There is very little enforcement, but those are the stated rules of that position.

you are right but I am sure they do not. They also are not enforced to put them on their taxes but waitresses and bartenders who do not even make min wage DO have to

I have stayed at deluxes, DVC and will be staying at a moderate and I do not tip unless something extra was done and I tip them personally by finding out who actually cleaned the room or did the extra something. I have never left a huge mess but if I did I would probably also tip. I see no reason to tip someone for doing just their job, esp prior to them actually performing it. I pay for the hotel room and in that cost - comes daily cleaning of the room. Disney could easily tack on $5 a night to every hotel room (just raise the room rate) and give it to housekeeping or make it a tipping optional job but they don't and the housekeepers still keep applying so obviously there is no tipping issue or money problems via disney/mousekeepers. I honestly think it is pity money (people feel that job is below them and feel sorry for the "poor" women who has to clean my room) or maybe wishful towel animal money . I understand they work hard but so does everyone else in the world and I don't see anyone else in a non-tipping lower paying job actually get tipped for service and there are many out there. There are also many people who actually struggle their way thru college (usually with min wage jobs) for better then minimum wage employment only to be stuck at a $8-10/hr job and have tons of student loans to pay off - shouldn't they deserve tips too then, aren't they worse off then the person making $6/hr with no loans??

How about the Main Street sweepers in MK - does anyone tip them?? Don't they keep the place you are visiting clean - do you think they make much more then the housekeeper at the resort? Probably not but they sure are friendlier. I don't get it. Because they vacuum, clean a toilet/shower and make a bed I have cleaned a lot worse then that in prior jobs and I would never expect tips on top of my hourly pay. In my current job, I have been offered a few tips here and there, mainly by daughters/sons of patients who are really tough - I never accept them. I never would expect anyone to hand me pity or thank you money and by accepting it I would be saying "yes, poor me, I do deserve more then what I get - bring it on, keep it coming!!" I didn't take this job or any others looking for freebies from people that have more then me and I am proud of what I do - I always have been whether it was $5/hr or $25hr.

off my soapbox and yes my flamesuit is on

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

No comment from me- just a question, and I apologize if it's been answered elsewhere:

Why don't the percentages equal 100 %?

Thanks!

 

[sinclaj]

I travel a LOT and always tip the houskeeping staff. I, personally, want to keep them happy so they don't clean the bathroom with my toothbrush!

 

[RickinNYC]

you are right but I am sure they do not. They also are not enforced to put them on their taxes but waitresses and bartenders who do not even make min wage DO have to

I have stayed at deluxes, DVC and will be staying at a moderate and I do not tip unless something extra was done and I tip them personally by finding out who actually cleaned the room or did the extra something. I have never left a huge mess but if I did I would probably also tip. I see no reason to tip someone for doing just their job, esp prior to them actually performing it. I pay for the hotel room and in that cost - comes daily cleaning of the room. Disney could easily tack on $5 a night to every hotel room (just raise the room rate) and give it to housekeeping or make it a tipping optional job but they don't and the housekeepers still keep applying so obviously there is no tipping issue or money problems via disney/mousekeepers. I honestly think it is pity money (people feel that job is below them and feel sorry for the "poor" women who has to clean my room) or maybe wishful towel animal money . I understand they work hard but so does everyone else in the world and I don't see anyone else in a non-tipping lower paying job actually get tipped for service and there are many out there. There are also many people who actually struggle their way thru college (usually with min wage jobs) for better then minimum wage employment only to be stuck at a $8-10/hr job and have tons of student loans to pay off - shouldn't they deserve tips too then, aren't they worse off then the person making $6/hr with no loans??

How about the Main Street sweepers in MK - does anyone tip them?? Don't they keep the place you are visiting clean - do you think they make much more then the housekeeper at the resort? Probably not but they sure are friendlier. I don't get it. Because they vacuum, clean a toilet/shower and make a bed I have cleaned a lot worse then that in prior jobs and I would never expect tips on top of my hourly pay. In my current job, I have been offered a few tips here and there, mainly by daughters/sons of patients who are really tough - I never accept them. I never would expect anyone to hand me pity or thank you money and by accepting it I would be saying "yes, poor me, I do deserve more then what I get - bring it on, keep it coming!!" I didn't take this job or any others looking for freebies from people that have more then me and I am proud of what I do - I always have been whether it was $5/hr or $25hr.

off my soapbox and yes my flamesuit is on

Wow. I read this and was pretty stunned at the sentiment behind your words. I won't make any other comments to this post because I'd end up banned.

And yes, we tip housekeeping every morning of our trips, whether to WDW or otherwise, provided we receive adequate service. And we tip more if we receive exceptional service. And guilt and pity have absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[chobie]

We stay at all levels and we tip at all levels. We're slobs. I don't consider it to be pity money.

 

[Disneyjosh229]

Im not sure if this has ever been asked before, but do "mousekeepers" get paid the same no matter what hotel there at, or do they get paid a certain amount according to the hotel? Just wondering

 

[ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!]

its not that I believe in tipping...I believe in over-tipping!

no, but really. we tip regardless...its just an extra thank you for taking care of us while we're at home

 

[skiwee1]

No. It's is a legal designation, that Disney has to report to the IRS. It has to do with whether there is an expectation that the principle source of the employee's wages come from gratuities or not. I had the opportunity to confirm this online when we had an online chat (here on the DIS) with the general manager of the BoardWalk. It's pretty well-established.

Remember, though, just because housekeepers are paid a living wage and aren't expected to be tipped, you can give them extra if you wish.

The GM at the Poly and the mousekeeping super both told me that the maid can keep the tips. So while it is a non tipping position they are allowed to keep tips. I never pay any attention to tipping or non tipping rules. I tip because I appreciate the hard work they do and want to show my appreciation. I think it is silly to base that on what you are told. You do what want.

 

[Disneyjosh229]

double post

 

[skiwee1]

Actually, as non-tipped employees, they are technically required to turn all tips into management. There is very little enforcement, but those are the stated rules of that position.

True, but I believe some of Disney's tipped positions are paid over minimum wage. Disney housekeepers are specifically paid a living wage.

How much money they make shouldn't factor into whether you tip or not IMO. I don't care if they are making $2 or $20 an hour. I still tip.

 

[RickinNYC]

The GM at the Poly and the mousekeeping super both told me that the maid can keep the tips. So while it is a non tipping position they are allowed to keep tips. I never pay any attention to tipping or non tipping rules. I tip because I appreciate the hard work they do and want to show my appreciation. I think it is silly to base that on what you are told. You do what want.

Very well said skiwee1! :thewave:

 

[Bracho]

Disney doesn't over pay anyone except for the Board of Directors so we tip those who service us on vacation. I could care less what Disney has a department listed as when it comes to a tipped or non-tipped position. It's my money and I'll make that choice.

Tipping isn't for everyone and is a personal thing in alot of cases. You will find some folks have very strong feelings about who and what they should tip when receiving a service.

 

[beattyfamily]

It's great to see the poll and how the majority of DISers do tip!

I tip and I always will at any and all resorts, hotels and motels, unless I get poor service, but that hasn't happened yet. That is how I was brought up.

I could care aless about Disney's guidelines in a newsletter passed out at check-in. It's just a guideline. They expect us to tip on their cruises and also at DL, so I choose to include WDW mousekeepers as well. It IS a traditionally tipped position in the rest of the world.

 

[patsal]

I didn't vote because I stay at al levels, depending on promotions and my finances at the time I travel. I do tip occasionally (usually actually--unless the service is sub par), but feel that since it is considered a non-tipped position they are getting their wages from the company they chose to work for. It is not my responsibility to make up for wages that are not cosidered a "living wage"--and actually I already do in the form of food stamps, subsidized housing, and other social programs that I pay for through taxes.

 

[RickinNYC]

--and actually I already do in the form of food stamps, subsidized housing, and other social programs that I pay for through taxes.

Oh my God.

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

We don't *have* to do good. (I am an English teacher, so I more assuredly mean "do good" and not "do well".)

We don't have to tip. We don't have to hold doors. We don't have to read to our children. We don't have to give money to charities. We don't have to give a bottle of water to the postal workers. We don't have to tip housekeeping. They are the *extra* things whereby people do *good*. They are not required. We do them, when and if we want to and how we want them done.

These are judgment calls. We should all do what is in accordance to our values, beliefs and priorities. We all live differently. Rather than rehashing the same argument or defending our choices, we all need to accept that we do what we think is right and others may not neccessarily agree. Everyone has intelligent and valid points behind their arguments.

The actions of others (as long as they are legal) are really something we cannot control.

We all do things that other people would disagree with in our personal lives. In my experience, anything sexual, religious or financial is bound to be controversial. My personal beliefs on certain issues have changed throughout my life. It's nice to discuss our opinions, but I just wanted to point out that we can't force everyone to agree.

 

[Lewisc]

I didn't vote because I stay at al levels, depending on promotions and my finances at the time I travel. I do tip occasionally, but feel that since it is considered a non-tipped position they are getting their wages from the company they chose to work for. It is not my responsibility to make up for wages that are not cosidered a "living wage"--and actually I already do in the form of food stamps, subsidized housing, and other social programs that I pay for through taxes.

Sounds a little harsh but there is a lot of truth in your post. There are many CM who don't make much (any?) more than housekeepers, are also important in making our trip magical and aren't allowed to accept tips.

Walmart certainly doesn't pay their cashiers a living wage but we don't tip them.

 

[swilphil]

Does anyone know how much housekeepers at Disney are paid?? I'll tip anyone who cleans my toilet. I hate cleaning so much, and I can't imagine people doing it for 8 hours a day. I stay at deluxes and I do tip, and it's not like I have money to spare. We do lots of things to cut corners on our trip-- bring in our own snacks, split meals, go for fewer days.

If you think about it, by not tipping you are contributing to a higher turnover rate for Disney housekeepers, since tipping is expected at so many other hotels. The housekeepers will leave to take better positions. Higher turnover almost always means overall efficiency declines, and that just gives Disney another excuse to raise the room rates a few more dollars. So even if you're not tipping, you are "paying" in the form of a higher room rate on future trips.

 

[edingerc]

The reason that the percentages don't add up to 100% is that I allowed multiple votes by each person. It's possible that people tip at the deluxe but not the moderate. Or maybe they tip at all levels. That seemed to be the best way to set up the poll.