Timing Question

[Gastonrocks]

Sorry im a first time Mickey marthoner i have read that you must keep a 16 minute pace but i thought i also saw on here where when the last person crosses the start line that is when the sweeper clock starts. I would just like to find out for certain since my first half of the race i will be doing alright i just suffered on the practice runs on the second half of the stretch. On the practice runs my first half is always about 12 minute miles but then they fall as i go along to around 15-16+ minute but like i said these are practice runs and i run by myself so hard to say what i will actually do in the race itself since i seem to do much better during 10k races and 5ks

 

[TyNWendy]

I've seen some other bits on this in the forum, but my understanding is that they can't really start a sweeper until the last person crosses the start. Then, imagine a broom moving along at a 16min/mi. pace. If it catches you at any point, it can sweep you off the course. So, if you are ahead of that broom the whole time, you should be fine.

 

[Ronda93]

Yes, the 16 minute pace clock starts with the last runner. Your first half will keep you on the course.

Ronda

 

[ultramickeymouse]

The 16 min pace starts after the last runner crosses the start line. They will put orange flags on the mile markers when the pace has gotten longer than 16 min a mile. At this point, you can be swept at any time.

 

[cewait]

The 16 min pace starts after the last runner crosses the start line. They will put orange flags on the mile markers when the pace has gotten longer than 16 min a mile. At this point, you can be swept at any time.

THis may be my year to see the flags.....

Seriously, while Disney has hard sweep points you can be swept anytime you are behind the sweep pace. There is also a course monitor who rides the pace from what I hear. But I ahve also heard that perosn is not exactly on pace all the time.

Everyone who thinks they may be pace challenged should have a stop watch on their person during the race. A Pace band may be helpfull if you are math challenged. Start the stop watch as you corss the FIRST timing mat at the start. The second mat is the real mat but sometimes it is over loaded and youa read from the first. Then at every mile look at your time. Compare that with a 16 minute pace. If you are ahead then great, behind you know you need to speed up.

one year I offered to start with the last corral and lose a shoe just before the mat giving everyone an added minute or two. I am thinking my fix a flat fee was a little high.

Just in case you are math challenged here is a pace chart.


Mile Cumulative Time
1 ---- 0:16:00
2 ---- 0:32:00
3 ---- 0:48:00
4 ---- 1:04:00
5 ---- 1:20:00
6 ---- 1:36:00
7 ---- 1:52:00
8 ---- 2:08:00
9 ---- 2:24:00
10 --- 2:40:00
11 --- 2:56:00
12 --- 3:12:00
13 --- 3:28:00
14 --- 3:44:00
15 --- 4:00:00
16 --- 4:16:00
17 --- 4:32:00
18 --- 4:48:00
19 --- 5:04:00
20 --- 5:20:00
21 --- 5:36:00
22 --- 5:52:00
23 --- 6:08:00
24 --- 6:24:00
25 --- 6:40:00
26 --- 6:56:00

You can creat a pace band here
http://www.marathonguide.com/fitnesscalcs/PaceBandCreator.cfm

 

[Gastonrocks]

thanks everyone this has made me feel a lot better i don't think i will get swept now i hope everyone has a great race and see you in a week

 

[Hockeychic]

one year I offered to start with the last corral and lose a shoe just before the mat giving everyone an added minute or two. I am thinking my fix a flat fee was a little high.
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Charles, what is your fee maybe I can get a few of us who are going to need every minute possible to finish might be able to chip in and cover that fee.

 

[luvsTink]

The clocks that I have seen in pics at the mile markers....are they from the 1st wave start or the last?

Anne

 

[syko]

The clocks are from when the gun goes off for the first runners.

 

[escape]

Charles, what is your fee maybe I can get a few of us who are going to need every minute possible to finish might be able to chip in and cover that fee.

I'll be glad to put some in the pot, Kim. If I make it, it's going to be down to the wire for me, I'm afraid.

 

[Snowwhitebelle]

thanks again Charles, love the pace wristband idea, going to print one out

 

[cewait]

The clocks that I have seen in pics at the mile markers....are they from the 1st wave start or the last?

Anne

Syko is correct, the clock time is gun time.

I just want to restate that you the runner are responsible for your own time. That is why I highly recommend a stopwatch on your body that you can easily refer to so you can manage your pace. I would not count on the course monitor at the back of the race or the 'your behind pace' flags on mile markers OR VOLUNTEERS to tell you where you are. When the sweep bus pulls acroos the road, it is over regardless if the last water table said you were doing fine with time. Disney does it's best to not sweep runners by having hard sweep points (Note they no longer give these hard points out) but if you are not on pace at any given time you can be asked to leave the course.

 

[Suzy Mouse]

Silly me for asking this....

I won't have a stop watch for the run. So...should I look at the clock as I'm passing the start and then subtract it from the clocks I see along the way? or is there a better way to do it??

 

[ultramickeymouse]

Silly me for asking this....

I won't have a stop watch for the run. So...should I look at the clock as I'm passing the start and then subtract it from the clocks I see along the way? or is there a better way to do it??

Yes, that is what to do. Check to see what time it takes to cross the line after gun time(ie 10 or 20 min) and than use Charles chart. Lots of math but can be done that way.

 

[cewait]

Yes, that is what to do. Check to see what time it takes to cross the line after gun time(ie 10 or 20 min) and than use Charles chart. Lots of math but can be done that way.

That can be done.... I tend to forget #'s along the way. You can get a really cheap Timex Ironman watch that will keep you straight. OR take a sharpie marker with your to the start and mark the time on your hand as you pass.

You'll definitely have something to wrap your mind around on the long in between stretches.