Thyroid cancer and general question

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My sister was diognosed with thyroid cancer about 2 weeks ago. She has always had thyroid problems since she was 8(when she started her period). She began radiation treatments last week they will be once a week.

Here is my question. Should she be taking better care of herself? Like no drinking beer and eating fastfood several times a day, large amount of sugary foods, not fruit or veg. maybe excercising, eat healthy?

She said its not like she has "real" cancer:eek: And that this is easy to treat and no big deal.

Cancer is Cancer correct?
 
Wow. This post really struck a cord with me since I had thyroid cancer as well. Do you feel that cancer is the fault of a person's lifestyle? Do you live a completely healthy lifestyle yourself, as to judge? Is it just thyroid cancer or all cancers that you think are avoidable if you abstain from certain things? I would ask that you research thyroid cancer and causes before you post ignorant ideas as these.

I still remember after my surgery, one neighbour, whom I didn't particularly know, came up to me and asked me if I was going to start "eating more healthy now". I've never been so insulted in my life. She had/has absolutely no idea of my eating or lifestyle habits but assumed that I was responsible for my cancer.

And yes, cancer IS cancer.
 
Yes, cancer is cancer, and thyroid cancer has an exceptionally high cure rate. As scary as it is to find out you have thyroid cancer, in the long run it's not too bad. My mother was diagnosed with thyroid cancer quite by accident when she had a routine chest xray for her job(nurse.) She was very upset, of course, and had to do the radiation and surgery. That was about 30 years ago and except for the fact that she has a small silvery scar at her neck and she has to take thyroid med for the rest of her life, it doesn't affect her at all.

As far as changing her ways, I think you probably need to drop that great idea. I agree with a previous poster who said it sounds a little judgemental. You probably didn't mean it like that, but that might be the way its received. :flower3:
 
I never said I told her these things, I do not live perfect life never said I did.

Did I state the her lifestyle was the cause of her cancer? NO! Did I state the all cancers were avoidable? NO!

I have read and heard from people that have had cancer they felt better if they changed some of thier choices. Like anyone who eats crap will feel like crap.

She is the one who said its not real cancer. I know that cancer is serious no matter what type you have. She is the one stating it.

This was not an ignorant post. are there not many people who take a holistic approach along with the medications? Yes. I research everything. I was just asking a question.
 

I never said I told her these things, I do not live perfect life never said I did.

Did I state the her lifestyle was the cause of her cancer? NO! Did I state the all cancers were avoidable? NO!

I have read and heard from people that have had cancer they felt better if they changed some of thier choices. Like anyone who eats crap will feel like crap.

She is the one who said its not real cancer. I know that cancer is serious no matter what type you have. She is the one stating it.

This was not an ignorant post. are there not many people who take a holistic approach along with the medications? Yes. I research everything. I was just asking a question.

Maybe she says it's not real cancer because that's how she can deal with it? :confused3 Who know? We can play tricks on our minds whenwe don't want to face something. Or maybe she understands that thyroid cancer is highly treatable, so she's just not all that worried. I agree that cleaning up a bad diet, getting more active, getting adequate rest, et al, will make anyone feel better. But sometimes telling someone that, especially if they are facing a serious or chronic illness, can *feel* like criticism.

BTW--this is not meant as criticism to you. I truly understand your concern about your mother. I went through the same thing with my mom.
 
Maybe she says it's not real cancer because that's how she can deal with it? :confused3 Who know? We can play tricks on our minds whenwe don't want to face something. Or maybe she understands that thyroid cancer is highly treatable, so she's just not all that worried. I agree that cleaning up a bad diet, getting more active, getting adequate rest, et al, will make anyone feel better. But sometimes telling someone that, especially if they are facing a serious or chronic illness, can *feel* like criticism.

BTW--this is not meant as criticism to you. I truly understand your concern about your mother. I went through the same thing with my mom.

Thank you. All I was asking if lifestyle change would help her feel better. Like I stated I havent said anything to her (sister).

Another question should she have seen another doctor. She is following her primary care doctor who is doing the treatment. I was always to believe get a 2nd opinon.
 
Thank you. All I was asking if lifestyle change would help her feel better. Like I stated I havent said anything to her (sister).

Another question should she have seen another doctor. She is following her primary care doctor who is doing the treatment. I was always to believe get a 2nd opinon.

Personally,I *would* get a second opinion about something as serious as cancer, any kind of cancer. I'm sure her primary doc means well, but she needs a specialist for this.
 
Maybe she says it's not real cancer because that's how she can deal with it? :confused3 Who know? We can play tricks on our minds whenwe don't want to face something. Or maybe she understands that thyroid cancer is highly treatable, so she's just not all that worried. I agree that cleaning up a bad diet, getting more active, getting adequate rest, et al, will make anyone feel better. But sometimes telling someone that, especially if they are facing a serious or chronic illness, can *feel* like criticism.

BTW--this is not meant as criticism to you. I truly understand your concern about your mother. I went through the same thing with my mom.

I totally agree with this. My BIL suffered through a summer of treatment for an oral-throat cancer. It was a horrific treatment. He survived it, and has now been cancer-free for 3 years. While my sister was at every appointment, and took careful notes of the side effects. The ONLY thing my BIL took from the pre-treatment meetings was that "he was probably going to lose weight, but he had a few pounds to lose". So - he left the pre-treatment meetings thinking he was fat (trust me - this was so not true!)

Personally,I *would* get a second opinion about something as serious as cancer, any kind of cancer. I'm sure her primary doc means well, but she needs a specialist for this.

I totally agree with this. Primary care physicians play a much-needed role in today's healthcare. Treatment for cancer - really falls outside of what they were trained for.

Now - as far as her cancer "not being real" - it is real. Very real. Your sister may be dealing with it by differnentiating cancers. Some cancers have a high rate of survival. Others, i.e. pancreatic cancer are quite the opposite. One of my SIL's had breast cancer, although it was found very, very early. She preferred not to think that she had cancer either. (SIL just didn't want her DD to "freak" out about it. No worries about family history - my niece is adopted.)

Good luck...your DD got a bombshell dropped on her. She is going to need your support!!!
 
Personally,I *would* get a second opinion about something as serious as cancer, any kind of cancer. I'm sure her primary doc means well, but she needs a specialist for this.

That is odd that her primary doc is doing this, isn't it? I don't have any experience with cancer, but I thought an oncologist was involved with any cancer. I know my best friend had melanoma and she was referred to an oncologist right away. Thank goodness they caught it and removed it in time before she had to go thru any treatment, but that was the oncologists call, not a primary doc.
 
Thyroid cancer survivor here - I have always dealt with an endocrinologist for all my treatment. I had the surgery to remove my thyroid and had 3 rounds of radioactive iodine. This involves just taking a radioactive pill and letting that "kill" the thyroid cancer cells from inside your body - not radiation on the outside. To the OP, sure, your sister would probably feel better if she started a healthier lifestyle, but maybe once she does accept her diagnosis, she will decide to take better care. It was after my cancer diagnosis 11 years ago that I got serious about exercise. With the high dose of thyroid med I have to take to keep any "rogue" cancer cells from growing, the risk of osteoporsis is MUCH greater than someone who has their thyroid. I've been diagnosed with premenopausal osteoposis by my NP, although my endocrinologist doesn't really believe it because I am premenopausal.
 
Thyroid cancer survivor here - I have always dealt with an endocrinologist for all my treatment. I had the surgery to remove my thyroid and had 3 rounds of radioactive iodine. This involves just taking a radioactive pill and letting that "kill" the thyroid cancer cells from inside your body - not radiation on the outside. To the OP, sure, your sister would probably feel better if she started a healthier lifestyle, but maybe once she does accept her diagnosis, she will decide to take better care. It was after my cancer diagnosis 11 years ago that I got serious about exercise. With the high dose of thyroid med I have to take to keep any "rogue" cancer cells from growing, the risk of osteoporsis is MUCH greater than someone who has their thyroid. I've been diagnosed with premenopausal osteoposis by my NP, although my endocrinologist doesn't really believe it because I am premenopausal.

Is it common to have the thyroid removed? I ask because they have said nothing about surgery. She has had a problem with this for years. shes 26 and had a thyroid cancer scare when she was maybe 13yrs old. Shes been on synthroid since she was 8 or 9. She has seen the endocrinologist, he has the primary doctor do the treatment since he is a specialist that comes in once a month.
 
Is it common to have the thyroid removed? I ask because they have said nothing about surgery. She has had a problem with this for years. shes 26 and had a thyroid cancer scare when she was maybe 13yrs old. Shes been on synthroid since she was 8 or 9. She has seen the endocrinologist, he has the primary doctor do the treatment since he is a specialist that comes in once a month.

Hmm,I think so. They went in and took Mother's whole thyroid--gotta get it all, you know. Then she when in for the radioisotope treatment. I'm just REALLY surprised that a PCP is overseeing this. :sad2:
 
DH had a tumor in his frontal lobe in his 20s. He refused western medical care (and had to hire an attorney to keep the diagnosing doctors off his case when they were threatening him with being committed and having care despite his wishes). This tumor was not malignant, but it was growing so fast "they" gave him 6 months to live without their treatment. He refused b/c they said surgery wasn't possible, and it was only radiation being shot at the frontal lobe...the side effects that were possible, he felt, were worse than death.

He went on a beyond-macrobiotic diet, where he coudln't even have fish (usually a part of macro) b/c the fish readily available in the States are so toxin-filled, he juiced, he did supplements, he did hyperbaric chamber treatments. He paid out of pocket for it all b/c they aren't covered by insurance even now, and it was crazy-hard (he had to move back in with his mom) b/c he was making under 30K at the time while in the Seattle area.

He also paid for MRIs throughout, also paid for OOP, and within 6 months it was responding. Within a year, I believe, it was gone.

Diet CAN have affects even on scary "cells growing and not stopping and creating tumors" problems.

I remember reading this article when it came out. 1/3! From the article, "The genes have been there for thousands of years, but if cancer rates are changing in a lifetime, that doesn't have much to do with genes," said a Harvard researcher. As stated in the article, the problem is EXACTLY what happened here. People hear this, and feel BLAMED. Instead of feeling EMPOWERED. That they can affect change in their internal environments. Make a chance. Do something.


I believe that someone with a scary diagnosis should definitely do everything to make their bodies not have to fight the tumors AND have to deal with junk being put into them. So yes, I think your sister should be helping her body...not hindering it. She could feel empowered by such a thing...no need to feel guilty.




By the way, if she has her thyroid out, tell her to get a careful surgeon. Friend of mine had that surgery, the guy nicked her parathyroid and had to take THAT out, too. It's VERY VERY VERY difficult for her to manage her weight now, and she has to take something like 30 calcium pills a day, last she told me, because of not having either one of them....
 
I had thyroid cancer 15 years ago. Based on your post, your sister is getting very improper treatment. You do not treat thyroid cancer with external, weekly radiation. Not at all. That part scares me for her. She should have it removed and then ingest radioactive iodine.

As for her lifestyle, not sure it will make a difference in how she feels. Sure, cutting junk is better for you but a person must be mentally prepared to do that.
 
Just a warning about taking "treatable" cancers lightly. The link is to a coronial inquest into the death of a woman who chose instead of traditional surgery / radiation/ chemo for a stage 2ish colon cancer for a holistic fruit juice, meditation, homeopath remedy.

After several months of this treatment she was admitted to hospital for emergency surgery as her colon was completely obstructed by the cancer, had not had a BM for 12 days and if she had not had the operation she would have died in 24 hours after vomiting feces. Until that time she had refused all pain relief on the advice of her homeopath as the advice was the pain relief would interfere with the treatment. She screamed every night


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7397417/cancer-wife-died-in-excruciating-pain/

The inquest has been running for several days, and her husband is a very promient Uni Professor who publishes (not peer reviewed) and speaks frequently on the dangers of toxic chemicals in food, environment etc. Thier pacts was that if the treatment worked he would write another best seller book.

By the time they consented to use 'orthodox' medicine the cancer was Stage 4 and past curing. This is all from the perspective of somebody who is very very skilled at researching but declined the treatment.

The inquest is running for more days if you want to check back
 
My sister was diognosed with thyroid cancer about 2 weeks ago. She has always had thyroid problems since she was 8(when she started her period). She began radiation treatments last week they will be once a week.


Cancer is Cancer correct?

radiation treatments are only used after the thyroid has been removed and this is used only where there were Stage lll or Stage lV cancers. Your sister needs to have the endo refer her to a surgeon and oncologist ASAP!
Who did the fine needle biopsy and what type and stage of cancer was diagnosed? Right now the most important thing is to get the proper treatment for your sister.....and yes, Cancer is Cancer....
 
I am so sorry to read about your sister's diagnosis. Sadly, I know what it feels like to have a sister diagnosed with cancer.

You're right, Cancer is cancer. Leading a healthier lifestyle from here on out can only help her, but it's highly unlikely it was her lifestyle that caused the cancer.







A little bit of my history, because I feel the need to throw a very large bucket of cold water on what I see as a HORRIBLE misrepresentation on your thread.

On May 5, 2008, my beloved little sis was diagnosed with brain cancer. Further biopsy showed that it's a very rare and aggressive glio neuroma brain tumor. It's most closely related to Glioblastoma Multiforme, which is the most aggressive brain cancer that there is.

DH had a tumor in his frontal lobe in his 20s. He refused western medical care (and had to hire an attorney to keep the diagnosing doctors off his case when they were threatening him with being committed and having care despite his wishes). This tumor was not malignant, but it was growing so fast "they" gave him 6 months to live without their treatment. He refused b/c they said surgery wasn't possible, and it was only radiation being shot at the frontal lobe...the side effects that were possible, he felt, were worse than death.

All primary brain tumors are considered malignant, regardless of how fast they are growing. They are graded on how fast they are growing. If his tumor was growing fast it was not only malignant, but it was a high grade malignancy. (Glioblastoma Multiforme is one of the few tumors that is known to have a bleak survival rate such as 6 months)

Also, brain tumors generally come back. I've only heard of cases in children where tumors stayed gone once they were gone. Adults can have many years before the tumor comes back, but it almost always comes back and it's usually much worse when it comes back. Your husband may want to continue to monitor his head via MRI to make sure that his tumor isn't slowly growing back, despite his diet.

I am wondering what were the biopsy results for his tumor. ie what kind of tumor did he have? Doctors will not suggest any course of treatment before biopsy, and since they knew that they couldn't operate and radiation was the only answer, then they must have biopsied and known what they were dealing with. I'm interested because I'd like to know if his cancer was similar to my sisters.

He went on a beyond-macrobiotic diet, where he coudln't even have fish (usually a part of macro) b/c the fish readily available in the States are so toxin-filled, he juiced, he did supplements, he did hyperbaric chamber treatments. He paid out of pocket for it all b/c they aren't covered by insurance even now, and it was crazy-hard (he had to move back in with his mom) b/c he was making under 30K at the time while in the Seattle area.

I have asked this of someone once before, but would you PLEASE share specific details of this diet cure-all for cancer? If you or your husband had the cure to cancer, you'd not only be rich and famous, but the entire medical industry would be on its ear . Can you imagine the validation for finally proving that diet has more power than doctors and medicines? It'd be a huge victory for the holistic approach to medicine.

To me, personally, it'd be a favor. My sister is no longer tolerating her treatments, and has to back off from almost everything that she's done medically to shrink her tumor. She can possibly do radiation again, but it's risky. Surgery is very risky as it'll likely paralyze her on her entire left side. Avastin is causing negative side effects, and Temodar is no longer tolerated by her (or is working) at all. Frankly her prospects for living many more years aren't good, and you could save a life other than your husbands if you share specific information about how he cured his brain tumor.

He also paid for MRIs throughout, also paid for OOP, and within 6 months it was responding. Within a year, I believe, it was gone.

Would you please share scans of those MRIs proving that your husband, you believe, cured cancer with his DIET alone? I have seen way too many MRI photos of cancerous brain tumors (remember, they're all cancerous) and I'd love to see some good news for once.

Diet CAN have affects even on scary "cells growing and not stopping and creating tumors" problems.

I believe that diet can help the situation. I think it's medically irresponsible for anyone to tell the world that diet alone can cure cancer unless there is proof.

Unless you are willing to share proof, or share your cure with the world, I don't think you should blindly tell the world that diet cures cancer. I sincerely hope that nobody on a message board would believe what you are saying without more proof as well.


OP, I am so sorry to take your thread off topic. I really do feel badly for you, your sister, and your entire family. This diagnosis really turns a family upside down, and the last things you need are bad medical advice or more turmoil. :hug:
 
I would like to thank all posters who offered insight and ideas and for not bashing me because of my question:hug:. I will ask my sister if she had gone to an oncologist? and why they havent had the thyroid removed. I would think they would remove it since she has had such a problem with it for so long plus having a cancer scare already. Thank you again.
 
All primary brain tumors are considered malignant, regardless of how fast they are growing. They are graded on how fast they are growing. If his tumor was growing fast it was not only malignant, but it was a high grade malignancy. (Glioblastoma Multiforme is one of the few tumors that is known to have a bleak survival rate such as 6 months)


I assuming that Bumber meant that the tumor was a benign brain tumor (i.e. not cancer at all).

What that has to do with a post about a cancerous thyroid tumor, I have no idea. But we all know that Bumber likes to post her "medical facts" any chance that she gets.

OP - I agree with others that the treatment you are describing for your sister doesn't sound like the standard care for thyroid cancer. I'd be looking for a second opinion.
 
Another question: Sister does not have any insurance could they not be doing surgery because of that reason?
 


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