Thought this had to be said...

PlutoTheDog89

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I felt the need to write this. I hope no one takes offense to it, but I felt it needed to be said.

I love these boards. I love the Disney community. Honestly, it's a large part of the reason that keeps me going to Disney. Just when I think I've had enough, I come on here and read someone's trip report or see photos of Beaches and Cream and I start planning my next trip. You guys are all great. Seriously. From Robo's diagrams and witty answers, to (I can't think of who it is, so forgive me) but the user who posts letter grades for every restaurant. Seriously... there's so much good on these boards.

But with all that good often comes the bad. Situations like yesterday and Sunday seem to stir up debates. For the most part, the debates remain educational and as a platform for those to express their beliefs. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and many of the debates (usually the ones about FP+ or the parks) keep me coming back. But it kills me when the debates turn ugly and people start throwing shade at one another. That's not what these boards are about and that's not the rabbit hole the discussions should go down.

At the end of the day, a family lost a toddler yesterday. A father fought for his child and lost - less than a week before father's day. A park that has brought us so much fun and joy is now utter hell for one family. Utter hell - not because they couldn't get a FP+ for Space Mountain or a room with a perfect view at The Contemporary, but because they suffered a tragedy that they will never recover from. A tragedy that they'll be reminded of each time a commercial for Disney World comes on or a new Disney movie comes out or they see a young boy with a Mickey shirt on at the mall.

And yet, while many sympathized and realized this, many of us spent a ton of time arguing over the legalities of a damn sign yesterday. A debate which is fine, ordinarily. Many people brought some great arguments and I loved hearing the legalities behind everything. But some, when disproven or met with disapproval, returned the argument with some nasty comments.

I work in advertising. I spend my days writing and often my ideas and beliefs are dismissed. I sometimes find myself fighting for my ideas and becoming angry and discouraged when they're disregarded. But I've taken on the mentality that in every argument, there's a 50% chance I'm wrong. Even when I know I'm right, there could always be a 50% chance I'm wrong. That mentality has led to far more peaceful arguments and satisfying debates.

Hate begets more hate. Remember that next time you go to type something.
 
Thank you for saying this.

Much love and prayer to Orlando, this poor family, and also to the family of the singer who was shot and killed. So much loss and heartache in our beloved home away from home of Orlando.

I've cried so much this week, I just can't imagine.
 

I felt the need to write this. I hope no one takes offense to it, but I felt it needed to be said.

I love these boards. I love the Disney community. Honestly, it's a large part of the reason that keeps me going to Disney..........

But with all that good often comes the bad. Situations like yesterday and Sunday seem to stir up debates. For the most part, the debates remain educational and as a platform for those to express their beliefs......But it kills me when the debates turn ugly and people start throwing shade at one another. That's not what these boards are about and that's not the rabbit hole the discussions should go down......

And yet, while many sympathized and realized this, many of us spent a ton of time arguing over the legalities of a damn sign yesterday. A debate which is fine, ordinarily. Many people brought some great arguments and I loved hearing the legalities behind everything........

Hate begets more hate. Remember that next time you go to type something.

ITA! While I sometimes read all the posts in a hotly debated thread like the one you mentioned, I never post in these threads for reasons mentioned above. The words and feelings may be sincere but they are so hurtful I can't imagine that anyone would ever express them in person. They're more than just opinions, they are daggers thrown without regard to the person involved.

When I read about or see debates like this in person I also wonder about why a person is saying these things; what is behind the poster's words. What in the poster's life would cause them to say such words in this way? I learned many years ago that people are not always angry about the actual event but sometimes about something not directly related (i.e. the parent screaming about why her daughter got a "B" not an "A" in my class who eventually admitted that she herself had been not been identified as gifted/talented as she felt she deserved in elementary school).

Enough said....
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