This Trip Report Is Under Refurbishment For Your Future Enjoyment (UPDATED 9/13 with final bonus chapter)

[Captain_Oblivious]

I'm going to admit how much of a geek I am (as if it wasn't obvious before) but I've been confused and honestly conflicted about the whole time travel rules thing ever since I saw Endgame. Which one do we follow - Back to the Future rues or Avengers rules? How did Captain America go back in time, live for 70 years and not screw up the timeline by betting on sporting events. It's madness I say! (as if time travel is a real thing...)

I will fully admit I don't understand how all the time travel works in Endgame. But then again, if you think too hard about any time-travel movie, the plot logic falls apart. Best to just enjoy it in the moment.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

I'm like a bad penny. I always turn up.

You think you're joking, but I have proof... uh... dang it. I left my laptop at home. That's where I have my Photoshop loaded.

No one caught that reference, huh?

Tooooo early. Blech.

Agreed.

Only 2 hours? This is not my experience.

Well, you need to try it at 2 in the morning.

How inconvenient. I would convince them otherwise via a very convincing, sternly worded letter.

Good idea! That works every time.

I've taken both of those.

Which one do you like better?

I do the same with WestJet. The gap is gone, but... I get points and free bags (and much, much better service.)

I can get 2 free bags on United since I have their credit card. I'm making use of that perk this summer. Not that United has a wonderful reputation or anything. But not many airlines do anymore.

That's what Dad's do. I'll have more on that later in my soon to be started TR.

It does seem to be our lot in life, for sure.

Leverage is a good thing.

His flights were at sane times of day, though.

Oh? Never been there. Always O'Hare.

I think that was one of Southwest's tricks to keeping fares low. They would fly to smaller airports in metropolitan areas to reduce fees.

Hmmm... wonder if it's ever been on top of somebody's house?

Um... actually... sounds like fun!

It's more like when you're riding in someone else's car and they unexpectedly hit the brakes hard.

I never said that before but will in the future.

I see what you did there.

Gotta keep mixing it up to keep the natives from getting restless.

We were beyond going for the sugar rush and needed some protein.

Hunger. The ultimate ingredient in fine cuisine.

Well said.

Not to self. Decline any invitations to eat at the Oblivious household.

Well, ok. Suit yourself.

I miss that comic.

Don't step on any butterflies.

Actually... I flew west, into the past and... when I got back, my grandfather was dead. (Presume you've heard of the Grandfather paradox?)


He was dead before I left... but, still.

My favorite line about the grandfather paradox came from Stephen King's novel 11/22/63, when the main character was protesting to his buddy about going back in time to change the past.

Main character: But what if I go back and then kill my own grandfather?

Buddy: (long pause) Why the f--- would you do that?

How does that even happen??? Left it on the tarmac?

No idea. We never did get a straight answer.

Still... Where's my... my car seat???

Yeah...

The choice of rental companies everywhere.

Pretty much.

The nice thing is, if you have it for more than a month or so... invariably something bad does happen. They're very reliable that way.

It is an amazing track record!

Nah. Too pedestrian.

Meaning lots of walking, of course.

Of course. Just what we needed!

Hmmm... is it the manhole cover on the street in front of that gate?

Spend a lot of time in sewers, do ya?

Huh. Obviously making enough money to not need tours yet...

I think they've done ok for themselves.

Tell her to wait. With talent like hers, it's a sure thing.

I mean...that would be so cool, wouldn't it?

You must've been starving!!!!

Also, they gave us fries that were fresh and hot.

Always wanted to visit. Perhaps some day.

This was my first time! Took me 44 years to get there.

I see it. Looks plenty steep to me!

Driving there was definitely an adventure.

Carefully.
With frequent clutch replacements.

I believe it. I'd be panicking every time I had to stop on an uphill slope.

Yay! You got to the parking lot early!

Pretty good plan B!

It was more just switching up the order we were seeing the sights.

Beautiful, Clark.

I mean, it beats any chain link fence in Delaware.

Nice family photo. Too bad those annoying statues were in the way.

Yeah! Somebody should do something about that.

Knew that, but... had no idea it was like that!

Any chance you can cut a corner, you take it. It's the American way.

Knew of it... haven't seen one in real life, yet.

I thought they had one (or a replica) in One Man's Dream.

So you're almost exactly like Walt!

Yes! Except for the talent and game-changing revolutionary ideas.

Nah. It just covers the missing part of the bridge.

That was considerate. You'd hate to spoil the visit that way.

I can't wait to see what marvels you two come up with!

You can practically see our brain cells overheating.

You're kidding! I was just telling a co-worker about Lefty's in DTD.
They have left handed mugs similar to this:

Cute.

That's... pretty incredible.

Nice shot!

Dang it! Fences, trees... and now people!

The nerve! Down in front!

I'd love to see it (both actually... haven't seen the Grand Canyon yet either) some day.

Hopefully you will see both. And find them as impressive in person as I did.

Yes of course. Very obvious. Simple really. Surprised you don't know.

Blue spiky flowers? Are we all good with that name?

What? This is a side of you that you've never revealed before!

I'm just full of surprises!

If it ain't good... it's empty.

Precisely.

I'm on your side here.


Remember that. It does happen.

I had to quote that above to preserve it for posterity.

Oh, man! Noooooo!!!!

Dude! BBQ!!!

I know...it was painful.

But the line was moving way too slowly. I do think a restaurant should be making every effort to serve its customers in a reasonable time.

Yeah, okay. I can see that. Long day.

Very long!

Oh... no...

Unfortunately, I've eaten at one once. I don't have to imagine it. It's indelibly imprinted on my psyche.

It's not great. But I think there are worse options out there. It's hard to screw up pancakes.

There it is!!! Woot!

Yay.

Well, that's good at least. I don't suppose they said what happened?

No, we never really found out. They lost it, and then found it again. Don't know where it went during the day.

You're welcome.

I only steal from the best! It was a good idea.

 

[pkondz]

I'm like a bad penny. I always turn up.

That's why you don't come up here. We don't have pennies.

No one caught that reference, huh?

Oh, I caught it.
I was contemplating looking up a still from the movie "1941", also starring Belushi, and photoshopping some German flags on some zeros or something.

Well, you need to try it at 2 in the morning.

Note to self. Mark wants me to visit at 2am.

Good idea! That works every time.

It works pretty often for my mom. I'm amazed at the free crap she gets.

Which one do you like better?

Late.

I can get 2 free bags on United since I have their credit card. I'm making use of that perk this summer. Not that United has a wonderful reputation or anything. But not many airlines do anymore.

Well WestJet is consistently voted best low cost carrier in Canada.

It's the only low cost carrier of significance, but still...

His flights were at sane times of day, though.

That's just poor planning on his part, then.

I think that was one of Southwest's tricks to keeping fares low. They would fly to smaller airports in metropolitan areas to reduce fees.

We have a new(ish) airline that's doing that. Not sure how well it's working out for them, though. I've heard of problems.

It's more like when you're riding in someone else's car and they unexpectedly hit the brakes hard.

Okay, not fun.

Well, ok. Suit yourself.

Note to self. Rescind former note to self.

I miss that comic.

Me too. So good.

My favorite line about the grandfather paradox came from Stephen King's novel 11/22/63, when the main character was protesting to his buddy about going back in time to change the past.

Main character: But what if I go back and then kill my own grandfather?

Buddy: (long pause) Why the f--- would you do that?

I remember that. How many times have you read it now? I think I'm up to three.

Spend a lot of time in sewers, do ya?

Of course. It's to get away from the snow. Not to worry though, I always leave a marker in case of emergency.

I think they've done ok for themselves.

Fair to middlin'

I mean...that would be so cool, wouldn't it?

Definitely!

Also, they gave us fries that were fresh and hot.

Yumm… love those.

This was my first time! Took me 44 years to get there.

Taking me longer. Hopefully not too much longer.

I believe it. I'd be panicking every time I had to stop on an uphill slope.

Heh.
Try it on a bike. More steps involved.

I mean, it beats any chain link fence in Delaware.

Are you sure???

Any chance you can cut a corner, you take it. It's the American way.

I thought they had one (or a replica) in One Man's Dream.

Maybe? Been too many years.

Yes! Except for the talent and game-changing revolutionary ideas.

See? Almost exactly the same!

You can practically see our brain cells overheating.

I thought I saw smoke.

Hopefully you will see both. And find them as impressive in person as I did.

I'd like to some day.

Blue spiky flowers? Are we all good with that name?

I had to quote that above to preserve it for posterity.

Stop looking at my posterity.

But the line was moving way too slowly. I do think a restaurant should be making every effort to serve its customers in a reasonable time.

Hmmm...

I read an interesting article about that...
I Found the Best Burger Place in America. And Then I Killed It.

It's not great. But I think there are worse options out there. It's hard to screw up pancakes.

Well, I seldom eat pancakes. So... not sure if there are worse options out there.

Yay.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

That's why you don't come up here. We don't have pennies.

We really shouldn't have them, either. They cost more to produce than they're worth.

Oh, I caught it.
I was contemplating looking up a still from the movie "1941", also starring Belushi, and photoshopping some German flags on some zeros or something.

Nice. I'm just glad to see my movie references aren't going to waste.

Note to self. Mark wants me to visit at 2am.

No, you can drive around D.C. at 2 a.m. I'll be at home.

It works pretty often for my mom. I'm amazed at the free crap she gets.

I've seen others get rewarded that way, too. Either I'm too lazy or not a very good complainer.

Well WestJet is consistently voted best low cost carrier in Canada.

It's the only low cost carrier of significance, but still...

I know there are other airlines in the U.S. that compete with Southwest for low-cost fares, but the reviews of their services are...less than kind. Southwest generally treats us well.

That's just poor planning on his part, then.

Do you know what our fee is for airport limo services? We stop at Claymont and buy each other cheese steaks.

We have a new(ish) airline that's doing that. Not sure how well it's working out for them, though. I've heard of problems.

Maybe it depends on the airport. I think flying into Midway in Chicago actually is a good thing. O'Hare is so huge and crowded that there can often be delays.

Note to self. Rescind former note to self.

Have I mentioned how much I love my new smoker?

Me too. So good.

Far Side and Calvin and Hobbes. The best of all time.

I remember that. How many times have you read it now? I think I'm up to three.

Still just the once, but it really stuck with me. I know I will read it again someday. What a great story.

Here's my favorite novel I read this year so far: November Road

Coincidentally, it also uses the Kennedy assassination as the backdrop for the story. There must be something about it that really inspires novelists.

Of course. It's to get away from the snow. Not to worry though, I always leave a marker in case of emergency.

That's very helpful. Kids probably love it, too.

Taking me longer. Hopefully not too much longer.

I can safely say it was worth the effort!

Heh.
Try it on a bike. More steps involved.

Ugh. I eat too many cheese steaks for that.

Are you sure???

Pretty sure.

Maybe? Been too many years.

They have changed their exhibits around, too.

See? Almost exactly the same!

This is why so many people talk about us in the same breath. Such as, "Boy, that guy is no Walt Disney."

I thought I saw smoke.

Well, when you only have a few brain cells to work with, it's very easy to overheat them.

Stop looking at my posterity.

Excuse me.

Hmmm...

I read an interesting article about that...
I Found the Best Burger Place in America. And Then I Killed It.

That's an interesting perspective. I'm admittedly not coming at this from the owner's perspective.

I think what bothered me was that the line didn't move at all. I can handle a longer wait if there's a sense of progress being made. But standing in virtually one place for 20 minutes made me wonder: is anyone actually being served? Maybe someday I'll get the chance to try again.

Well, I seldom eat pancakes. So... not sure if there are worse options out there.

Even if they are bad, I was feeding everyone for about $5.99 apiece.

 

[pkondz]

We really shouldn't have them, either. They cost more to produce than they're worth.

Same here. Why they're gone. No one misses them.

Nice. I'm just glad to see my movie references aren't going to waste.

Oh they are.
I realised long ago that everything I write is a complete waste of time.


Doesn't stop me from doing it though.

No, you can drive around D.C. at 2 a.m. I'll be at home.

Even better!

I've seen others get rewarded that way, too. Either I'm too lazy or not a very good complainer.

I find it's not worth the effort. Write a letter? For a $3 product?

Do you know what our fee is for airport limo services? We stop at Claymont and buy each other cheese steaks.

Niiiice

Maybe it depends on the airport. I think flying into Midway in Chicago actually is a good thing. O'Hare is so huge and crowded that there can often be delays.

Yeah. I've had to sprint through it...
I try to avoid ORD as much as possible.

Have I mentioned how much I love my new smoker?

Only 1 or 2 hundred times.

Far Side and Calvin and Hobbes. The best of all time.

Still just the once, but it really stuck with me. I know I will read it again someday. What a great story.

Here's my favorite novel I read this year so far: November Road

Thanks for that. Might have to see if I can find it.

Coincidentally, it also uses the Kennedy assassination as the backdrop for the story. There must be something about it that really inspires novelists.

It was a seminal moment in history.

That's very helpful. Kids probably love it, too.

Yep.

Ugh. I eat too many cheese steaks for that.

Allow me to clarify. Motorbike. No pedaling required.

This is why so many people talk about us in the same breath. Such as, "Boy, that guy is no Walt Disney."

See? Same-same.

Well, when you only have a few brain cells to work with, it's very easy to overheat them.

That's why they always say to ice it.

"It" being... pretty much everything/anything.

I think what bothered me was that the line didn't move at all. I can handle a longer wait if there's a sense of progress being made. But standing in virtually one place for 20 minutes made me wonder: is anyone actually being served? Maybe someday I'll get the chance to try again.

Hmmm... Yeah, I can see that.

Even if they are bad, I was feeding everyone for about $5.99 apiece.

Hard to beat that... especially if the e coli is thrown in for free!

 

[docsoliday1]

Well, ok. Suit yourself.

I'm in!!!

What time do you want me to show up for dinner?

 

[Steppesister]

Nothing is over until I say it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I’d found cheap tickets several months earlier and grabbed them

Cheap tickets trump most EVERYTHING. Every time.

Southwest has started playing the game where you can get a cheap fare, but you have to take the flight at Ridiculous O’Clock in the morning or Holy Crap It’s Late at night.

I've noticed that too. Stinks.

We still end up flying with them because of the lack of bag fees--with a family of 6, we typically get destroyed on bag fees with the other airlines.

HUGE perk. When $100 is added to the real price, it's a no-brainer.

so when you fly in it always feels like you’re going to land right on top of somebody’s house, and then all of a sudden the plane drops right down onto a runway and the pilot immediately hits full flaps in order to brake hard. It can get exciting if you’re not ready for it.

And so freaking cool.

As always, I hoped none of our actions would mess up the future.

Stupic space-time continuum.

I find driving a Dodge Caravan to be like shopping in a Walmart: in most instances, you get exactly what you need, but you’re worried the whole time that something bad is going to happen.

We haven’t received a response yet, but they may still be preparing their offer.

Well, yeah, of course. The 7 Dwarves are still drawing up my contract for Private Nursing Position for me.

The drive was slow, as traffic was terrible.

At some point, I just know this TR will have some surprises in it.

I've seen that view before!

The Walt Disney Family Museum is exactly what its title says it is: a museum dedicated to enshrining the life of Walt Disney which was established by his family and heirs. It’s both a biography and a tribute to the legacy of achievements Disney left behind.

Fair sum up. It's exactly that.

The place gets more interesting once you get past the early history of Walt’s childhood and get into the meat of his animation career. There are numerous displays and exhibits, some interactive, showing how painstaking the business of animation was back then. This wall shows over 700 individual drawings which together comprised about 15 seconds of actual movie footage.

I'd completely agree. I was blown away by that wall as well.

I missed this! It makes me giggle. LOL!

So this great new idea will earn you a million bucks. Just enough for one AP.

 

[afwdwfan]

Nothing is over until I say it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Hell no!

As always, I hoped none of our actions would mess up the future.

Well, your actions always mess up the future, but the time travel element is completely irrelevant to that detail.

Our first stop was in Emeryville, a neighborhood on the north side of Oakland. Right in town, on an unassuming side street near strip malls and apartment buildings, is a place some of you might be familiar with.

On the ground all of 5 minutes and already finding that Disney reference. And clearly that left lane says "guests." I don't know why you didn't roll right on up and let Sarah deliver her resume in person.

There’s also a small visitor center nearby, run by the National Park Service which oversees the Presidio. That was an opportunity for us to pick up a National Park passport stamp. It also gave us our first view of the Golden Gate Bridge, which came just as every visitor pictures it in their minds: through the glorious mesh of a chain-link fence.

The Golden Gate Bridge is under refurbishment for your future enjoyment.

I’ve got it! Left-handed coffee mugs!

Duuuuuuuude!!!! Brilliant!

Before long, we were greeted with some truly amazing views, sans chain-link fence:

Dang! That was fast!

Whenever I’d seen the Golden Gate Bridge on TV, I always thought it looked nice, but was still just an orange bridge. What was the big deal? Now, having seen it in person—I get it. You have to stand there to truly appreciate the scale of it, much like the Grand Canyon. The bridge is absolutely massive, both in height and span. It looked more rust-red and less orange to me, which really looked gorgeous against the blue waters of the bay. What merely looked nice on TV was stunning to me in person.

I'm sorry... I just think no matter how massive or beautiful it is, I'd be totally disappointed by it if I got to see it and Bob Saget wasn't driving a convertible across the bridge.

Finally, after about 20 minutes in which we’d moved a total of 5 feet, we bailed.

Hmm... I know it's a little early, but something tells me there might be a pattern forming.

 

[FantasiaMagic]

I enjoyed seeing the pictures from the Walt Disney Family Museum, looks like a great attraction to visit one day!

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

Same here. Why they're gone. No one misses them.

I wish we would make that move. Then again, there are a lot of seemingly obvious things we could do that we just don't for some reason.

Oh they are.
I realised long ago that everything I write is a complete waste of time.


Doesn't stop me from doing it though.

I'm in the same boat. At least we amuse ourselves!

I find it's not worth the effort. Write a letter? For a $3 product?

Agreed. Gotta pick your battles.

Yeah. I've had to sprint through it...
I try to avoid ORD as much as possible.

I haven't flown through there in decades. Will be there this summer, though.

Only 1 or 2 hundred times.

So I need to use it more.

Thanks for that. Might have to see if I can find it.

Hope you enjoy it!

It was a seminal moment in history.

Yeah, and there are so many "what if" questions surrounding it. Makes for a good jumping-off point for a story.

Allow me to clarify. Motorbike. No pedaling required.

Ah. That sounds like a slight improvement.

That's why they always say to ice it.

"It" being... pretty much everything/anything.

Anything that randomly hurts when you wake up in the morning. Which is pretty much everything.

Hard to beat that... especially if the e coli is thrown in for free!

I'm in!!!

What time do you want me to show up for dinner?

If you hit the road now, it would give me just enough time to smoke it.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

Cheap tickets trump most EVERYTHING. Every time.

Yep. Pretty much. Especially when you have to buy six of them.

I've noticed that too. Stinks.

I hate those games. It's hard to pull the trigger and then wait/hope something better becomes available.

HUGE perk. When $100 is added to the real price, it's a no-brainer.

And so freaking cool.

It can be a bit uncomfortable.

Stupic space-time continuum.

I've had to re-set everything so many times.

Well, yeah, of course. The 7 Dwarves are still drawing up my contract for Private Nursing Position for me.

It's in the mail! I'm sure!

At some point, I just know this TR will have some surprises in it.

Here's a list of good times to drive in San Francisco:

I've seen that view before!

And fairly recently, too!

Fair sum up. It's exactly that.

Thanks for the quality check.

I'd completely agree. I was blown away by that wall as well.

It's incredible the amount of work that went into it.

I missed this! It makes me giggle. LOL!

Walt knew what was up.

So this great new idea will earn you a million bucks. Just enough for one AP.

And a t-shirt!

Hell no!

I'm glad someone around here knows the classics!

Well, your actions always mess up the future, but the time travel element is completely irrelevant to that detail.

This is true. Then I wish I could use the time travel to stop messing up my future.

On the ground all of 5 minutes and already finding that Disney reference. And clearly that left lane says "guests." I don't know why you didn't roll right on up and let Sarah deliver her resume in person.

I should have used the old standard line: "Don't you know who I am????"

The Golden Gate Bridge is under refurbishment for your future enjoyment.

Thankfully, not the bridge itself. That would have been a bummer.

Duuuuuuuude!!!! Brilliant!

Dang! That was fast!

Just like all dedicated state workers, getting things done faster than you ever thought possible.

I'm sorry... I just think no matter how massive or beautiful it is, I'd be totally disappointed by it if I got to see it and Bob Saget wasn't driving a convertible across the bridge.

Hmm. I get it, and yet I've mostly lived by a code of keeping my life Bob Saget-free. It works.

Hmm... I know it's a little early, but something tells me there might be a pattern forming.

It certainly was on that day, anyway.

I enjoyed seeing the pictures from the Walt Disney Family Museum, looks like a great attraction to visit one day!

Definitely a must for any Disney fan!

 

[pkondz]

I wish we would make that move. Then again, there are a lot of seemingly obvious things we could do that we just don't for some reason.

A government that doesn't do the obvious???

I'm in the same boat. At least we amuse ourselves!

That's how we get in trouble.

I haven't flown through there in decades. Will be there this summer, though.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Bags... patience... sanity... whatever, something will be lost.

So I need to use it more.

Do you ship internationally?

Yeah, and there are so many "what if" questions surrounding it. Makes for a good jumping-off point for a story.

Anything that randomly hurts when you wake up in the morning. Which is pretty much everything.

Pretty much.

If you hit the road now, it would give me just enough time to smoke it.

Dude. Be careful when you say that to me. You know I'll drive a long way for a meet and good food.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

A government that doesn't do the obvious???

I know, right? What are the odds?

That's how we get in trouble.

You're more right than you know.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Bags... patience... sanity... whatever, something will be lost.

Great! I can't wait!

Do you ship internationally?

I considered it until I looked up the shipping costs to Canada.

Pretty much.

Getting old sucks.

Dude. Be careful when you say that to me. You know I'll drive a long way for a meet and good food.

If you're going to drive all that way, the least I can do is serve up some good brisket for you.

 

[pkondz]

I know, right? What are the odds?

High.

The odds are high.

Great! I can't wait!

The mind goes first.

I considered it until I looked up the shipping costs to Canada.

There's that. It's not exactly inconsequential.

Getting old sucks.

yes

If you're going to drive all that way, the least I can do is serve up some good brisket for you.

Deal!!

 

[docsoliday1]

High.

The odds are high.

Very high.
we are talking about the odds Jen Urso will use the blaster against them, right?

The mind goes first.

Huh? What?

There's that. It's not exactly inconsequential.

Not at all. I don't quite understand that either considering we're attached. It's not as if it has to go by boat or plane as with other countries.

Deal!!

Hey!!! Wait a minute. He was making that offer to ME!

 

[pkondz]

we are talking about the odds Jen Urso will use the blaster against them, right?

Um... sorry. Don't get the reference?

Huh? What?

When?

Not at all. I don't quite understand that either considering we're attached. It's not as if it has to go by boat or plane as with other countries.

It's probably cheaper to do that.

Hmmm.... I wonder how much the same package would cost to ship to Canada, vs shipping to Hawaii?

Hey!!! Wait a minute. He was making that offer to ME!

Ha! Sorry, suckah!

 

[docsoliday1]

Um... sorry. Don't get the reference?

The Star Wars movie rogue one. A character gives Jen a blaster. The droid asks him why he'd do that and asks if he know the probability she'll use it on him.
High.
Very high.

When?

Where?

It's probably cheaper to do that.

Hmmm.... I wonder how much the same package would cost to ship to Canada, vs shipping to Hawaii?

When I was stationed in Korea, our mailing address was via Hawaii and if I recall it wasn't more expensive than normal mail.

Ha! Sorry, suckah!

And you said you liked me. Hate to see what it would be like if you didn't like me.

 

[pkondz]

The Star Wars movie rogue one. A character gives Jen a blaster. The droid asks him why he'd do that and asks if he know the probability she'll use it on him.
High.
Very high.

Ohhhhhh....

Where?

Why?

When I was stationed in Korea, our mailing address was via Hawaii and if I recall it wasn't more expensive than normal mail.

I knew it!!!!

And you said you liked me. Hate to see what it would be like if you didn't like me.

Exactly the same.
It's up to you now to figure out if I like you or not.

 

[docsoliday1]

Why?

How?

I knew it!!!!

Well, we have several military installations at Hawaii and I'm fairly certain our mail was via military transports. I know it was slower than molasses in winter, so I guess it's possible it came over in cargo ships as well.
Still doesn't make sense especially if someone in Minnesota were to send something to Winnipeg...shorter than Minnesota to FL.

 

[pkondz]

How?

Who?

Well, we have several military installations at Hawaii and I'm fairly certain our mail was via military transports. I know it was slower than molasses in winter, so I guess it's possible it came over in cargo ships as well.
Still doesn't make sense especially if someone in Minnesota were to send something to Winnipeg...shorter than Minnesota to FL.

Of course is doesn't make sense. That's bureaucracy for ya!