This Restaurant is For the Dogs

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I wanted to pass along an experience I had at a Disney restaurant last week. I'm not going to name the restaurant as I don't want to call out any specific managers or servers; and because I'm surmising this is probably as issue across property. All I will say is that the restaurant was in one of the theme parks.

We had an ADR for lunch at this location on our last day of vacation. After being seated at a nice table and ordering, two 20-something girls were seated at the two-top table right next to us. This is a restaurant where the tables are very close together. They had a small dog with a sparkly pink collar with them. It looked to be a Yorkie.

I have no problems with dogs in general and fully (one thousand percent) support service dogs. But...I am one hundred percent certain this dog was not a service dog as these are the things we witnessed over the course of our meal:
* the dog barked continually (every time someone passed their table)
* the dog jumped up on the waiter’s legs every single time he came to their table
* the girls passed the dog back and forth between them, letting the dog eat scraps off the table and from their hands.
* the girls put a cardboard take-out container on the floor and let the dog eat out of it. When they left the restaurant, they left the cardboard container on the floor.
* they played with the dog on their laps through the whole meal
* Each of the girls took turns getting up to use the restroom during the meal, leaving the dog behind with the person at the table (it didn't seem as though the dog was serving or assisting one of the girls in particular)

We considered asking for a new table but decided to stay put. Honestly, I think we were all a bit taken aback by the situation in general.

When the two girls finished their meal and left, the waiter looked at us and said, "Service dog...yeah right!"
A man in a suit (who I am assuming was the manager) then came over and took pictures of the cardboard doggy serving tray the girls had left on the floor.

We finished our meal a short while later and as we were leaving we passed the same gentleman in the suit in the lobby. I decided to ask him about the situation. Here is a general outline of how the conversation went:

Me: So, tell me about the dog situation at the table next to us.
Him: What about it?
Me: I thought only service dogs were allowed in the parks and restaurants. It's pretty clear that dog wasn't a service dog.
Him: Because of ADA, the Americans with Disabilities Act, I am not allowed to ask anyone about dogs. It's against the law to ask, and it covers dogs and ponies.
Me: I thought that the ADA specifies that you can ask two questions: Is that a service dog and what jobs is the dog trained to perform?
Him: Well, I'm in food services and that's the job of security and admissions people at the front of the park.
Me: So, are you saying that the ADA prevents you from asking the questions, or does Disney prevent it? And, does Disney ask the allowed questions before a service animal enters the park?
Him: I don't know what they do.

So, yeah, the conversation with the manager was pretty awkward.

Interestingly enough, we had an almost identical situation a few days earlier at the Grand Floridian in the Royal Palm Club. Different people, different dog, similar situation with the dog barking like crazy in the lounge all while being pushed in a baby stroller. I also asked one of the club level concierge CMs how they handle dogs at check-in. She said that they only ask if the dog is a service dog. I asked her if they ask what jobs the dog is trained to perform as allowed by the ADA and she had no clue what I was talking about. She said that they are only trained to ask if it's a service dog. If the owner says yes, the dog is allowed.

I thought these two experiences were pretty indicative of how dogs are being handled at the parks and resorts. Sounds like the waiters and the restaurant managers are in a tough situation. And, so are the other diners.
 
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I personally would be upset. I dont like dogs. I would rather have a crying baby next to me than a dog. I also have a cousin, without children, with 2 dogs who are like her kids. She brings them everywhere and "tells" people they are service dogs. They are not. I think people should have a tag or license or something for the dog indicating it is indeed a service dog and even so they should not be allowed in a place that serves food.

I once was on an airplane, window seat, with a woman and her dog in the aisle seat. Someone in between us. I wanted to complain so badly, but EVERYONE around us thought the dog was soooo cute. It sat in her lap the whole flight....AZ to NC. For the most part, it was behaved. But I was stressed at any moment it was going to jump off her lap onto mine. I didnt want to be the one B**** complaining, but after I got off the plane I thought one and done. I dont care what people think of me, next time I will complain. Nobody should just assume everyone loves dogs and will be OK with it. These "emotional support dogs" are becoming way too common.
 

People taking non service dogs into restaurants is a big pet peeve of mine, and I am a pet owner/lover. I once saw a woman let her dog eat OFF the table!! I have a friend with a service dog. Having spent time with her and her dog in public, including a restaurant, without a doubt, you can tell the difference between a service dog and one that is not. The dog you described was definitely not a service dog. My friend's dog wore a vest that identified it as a service dog. This was to help let people know that the dog was 'working' and not to be pet. My BIL and his girlfriend have a dog that they take everywhere. It is not a small dog. They talked about getting fake service dog stuff for it just so they can take it more places. Burns my biscuits.
 
Disney employees may not be allowed to call them out; but we can! I always call out the "fakes". I do not want to eat in a dog kennel! I want to eat in a restaurant with people. If you let it slide, expect to see a lot more of the same next visit.
 
Per DoJ website
Q32. Are restaurants, bars, and other places that serve food or drink required to allow service animals to be seated on chairs or allow the animal to be fed at the table?

A
. No. Seating, food, and drink are provided for customer use only. The ADA gives a person with a disability the right to be accompanied by his or her service animal, but covered entities are not required to allow an animal to sit or be fed at the table.

Plus nearly every requirement to allow an animal (service or not) into any establishment means the animal MUST always be under control of the handler. Constant barking and jumping on legs is NOT under control period.

https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html
Interestingly Florida law mirrors federal, and is pursuing legislation cracking down on "emotional support" animals...

Places (not just Disney) need to be way more vigilant about this so the individuals with legitimate needs for a service animal don't take the heat, or make it harder.
 
We haven't had problems in restaurants but rather the hotels. We stayed 7 nights at AKL. Next door there was a "yappie" dog, all the while we stayed there. We complained at front desk, cast members said it was a service dog. Well, as far as we know the dog was there without guests. Management finally knocked on door and used "security check". (I truthfully thought the guest needed assistance, and that's why the dog was yapping). Turns out dog was in a cage\kennel While guest was at park!!! Management moved us,

I do understand the need for service dogs, and Disney specifically doesnt allow emotional support animals. But they need to start asking the two questions allowed by ADA. Is that a service dog and what services is it trained to do? Also, to the best of my knowledge, a service animal wears a best when out in public.
 
I put a higher value on a trained service animal, an already valuable assistant, these days. Incidents like the link, below, will continue to climb and people who truly need such a companion will be negatively impacted. Too bad human beings aren't at their best more often.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/...tten-emotional-support-animal-trnd/index.html

WOW....the flight I mentioned in the post above was AA too, to NC!!...but it was last December and nobody got bitten.
 
OMG...just returned to this thread to read some of the responses. The ads I’m seeing on this thread are:
One for dog food
One for Champion Bloodline Puppies
And, here’s a screenshot of the “best” one:
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I guess the Disboard’s targeted ads are on point:dogdance:
I've got two adblockers running and see no ads right now but that is both hilarious and sad...
 
We haven't had problems in restaurants but rather the hotels. We stayed 7 nights at AKL. Next door there was a "yappie" dog, all the while we stayed there. We complained at front desk, cast members said it was a service dog. Well, as far as we know the dog was there without guests. Management finally knocked on door and used "security check". (I truthfully thought the guest needed assistance, and that's why the dog was yapping). Turns out dog was in a cage\kennel While guest was at park!!! Management moved us,
Per federal and Florida law the AKL management would have been within their right to charge the guests a pet fee as a service animal MUST be with their handler at all times. Management should also report to police that a fake service animal is there and hopefully guests get charged. Harsh-yes. and no chance in (anywhere) Disney will ever get that bold until a guest gets seriously seriously injured from a "service" animal. Cast members can get bit, no problem (Disney doesn't even press charges when CMs get PUNCHED).
 
I would be absolutely livid if I paid good money to sit and enjoy a meal, only to have a barking dog eating on the table/floor next to me. Gross.

I feel like WDW is so afraid of negative press and/or getting sued that they let so many guests just get away with terrible behavior and turn a blind eye.
 
The service animal takes precedence, always. The guest with issues can ask to be moved - to another table, or another room, or a different ride car, or wait for a different bus, etc.

Fake service animals, emotional support animals, etc. - do NOT have the same privileges. The guest games precedence.

Air travel is different. Emotional support animals can fly - in cages, also rarely enforced.

if flying, inform the airline of any dog issues at booking, and he prepared to be flexible.
 
So... Does anyone know Disney's policy for if a guest has a dog allergy or has severe anxiety around dogs?
They will move you to another room/table/etc.
Monykalyn's link states the parameters. A service animal is needed for a disabled person to "fully participate in everyday life". None of us want to tell someone else that they can't be here because the animal freaks me out/makes me swell like a blowfish. An individual needs to look out for themselves and alert management to issues. They'll take steps to accommodate everyone, as best they can.
If you see an animal in a chair or eating from the table, you're within your rights to let the handler know that it's not okay and isn't a protected right. In today's society, we'll probably see the altercation on the news.
 
Anyone can buy a vest for their dog It is not something issued when the dog is trained or licensed as a service animal....

https://www.amazon.com/Only-pet-Pro...ocphy=9001869&hvtargid=pla-655046725585&psc=1
My cousin bought these vests for her chihuahuas and claims theyre emotional support dogs when she travels or even goes out shopping. Thank goodness I dont think she has gone so far to bring them to a restaurant.
 
I don't understand why the laws aren't more strict around service animals. It would be easy for real trained animals to get documents proving it and would stop people faking it. I love dogs and don't have any issue with being around them anywhere, but I don't like when people lie when there are people who have real need for them. When I was in Europe almost everywhere I went was dog friendly from stores to restaurants. All the dogs I saw were really well behaved. I wonder if we had such open policies like that people would have better trained dogs to be out in public?

I feel like little yappy dogs aren't the norm for a service animal those are usually larger dogs. I think if people have their dogs in public they should be well trained.
 
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