This may not be a popular opinion, but why is CA so insistent on getting Polanski??

They did indeed. Look at the post I quoted. In fact I bolded the appropriate section for you. It was OK, because the Mom did x y and z.

I'm not "engaging in hyperbole" I'm responding to a specific post. One that you apparently didn't read. If the other poster can sugar coat Polanski's crime, than I can reply and say it shouldn't be sugar coated.

I didn't discuss money or victim's rights in my post, because I was responding to a specific poster, and I conveniently bolded the part to which I was replying. Pretty simple really. I hope I helped "clear up your confusion".

I think it's a HUGE stretch to say that the part of the post you bolded said it was "OK" to drug and rape that child. All it says was that the parents had to have been completely dumb (or blinded by money) in order to put their child in that situation. It was a "what did they expect?" type of statement, not a "Mr. Polanski was totally allowed to do what he did because of the stupidity of the parents" statement.

I honestly don't see how you can make that big of a jump? :confused3
 
This is perhaps the attitude that confuses me the most. I don't care what the conduct of the parent is, it does not permit or excuse the rape of a small child.

I can certainly see ringing the authorities, but rape? Its okay to drug and rape that child, because their mother isn't the best?

A normal human being would not be "partying" with children.

I never said it was okay, I just think it's a crying shame the parents got off with out so much as a slap on the wrist, and no one's talking about prosecuting them. Also, I think after 30 years the victim here should have the final say in the matter.

In the Seventies too many people did not view young ladies of 13 as "children". If they had breasts and hair in the right places, they were fair game, especially if they were hanging around in movie stars' houses and getting drunk. The assorted young women who hung out at Jack Nicholson's house (and places like that) were generally there because they were starlets who were hoping to turn a bit of sex into a chance at a big break. Which, of course, in no way excuses Polanski's actions, even if he was high on drugs himself at the time.

Even today, in Alabama, 14yos can get legally married!

For that matter I'm a bit annoyed at the idea that any 13yo can be considered a "small child". They're not. The people who are sexually attracted to teenagers are not the same people who are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. Polanski is a rapist, but he's never raped a "small child".
 
I never said it was okay, I just think it's a crying shame the parents got off with out so much as a slap on the wrist, and no one's talking about prosecuting them. Also, I think after 30 years the victim here should have the final say in the matter.

In the Seventies too many people did not view young ladies of 13 as "small children". If they had breasts and hair in the right places, they were fair game, especially if they were hanging around in movie stars' houses and getting drunk. The assorted young women who hung out at Jack Nicholson's house (and places like that) were generally there because they were starlets who were hoping to turn a bit of sex into a chance at a big break.

Even today, in Alabama, 14yos can get legally married!

For that matter I'm a bit annoyed at the idea that any 13yo can be considered a "small child". They're not. The people who are sexually attracted to teenagers are not the same people who are sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

If anything the mother's alledged conduct gives Polanski yet another strike. He should have called the appropriate regulatory body. The crime is a 10, and adding in the mother's conduct does not effect it in the least. Its not like he killed someone, and we find out it was self defense, or stole and we find out he was being coerced by the mafia.

California recognized that 14 year-olds (and under) were indeed "little kids" at the time. We were briefly discussing on another page that the psych eval was required because the little girl was so young. It would not have been a requirement for a 16 year-old.
 
Actually, your post to me here constitutes a personal attack on both me and my DH, who IS a PO and is sick and tired of the whole RP debate. His views and mine are exactly the same: it's been 30 years, the courts flubbed it, and the only reason it's brought up ad nauseum is for personal gain on the part of the DA and the media.

There is no "justice" to be served in this particular case. He hasn't been serial raping children for years (I'll address the 16 y/o below) and no one in the US needs to be "protected" from this 76 y/o man because he hasn't lived here for over 30 years. DH's first concern has always been the safety of the public - ALWAYS. Justice is the DA's and the Judge's jurisdiction.

Insult my views all you want. But when you question my DH's honor and integrity, a man who puts his life on the line every single day to protect the people he's taken an oath to serve, you've gone too far.

What personal attack? Where I called your DH a cop? How is that an attack? I was stating a fact, one that you have said here over and over again. He is a cop, right? And where did I "question his honor and integrity"? :rotfl: PLEASE SHOW ME EXACTLY WHERE I DID THAT. Oh, that's right. You can't, because it's not there. Anywhere. I NEVER attacked your husband or made disparaging comments about him. You can twist what I said all you want and you will still come up empty on that on. ;) Come on Carly, you are really reaching here. I asked you what his views as a police officer would be. HOW IS THAT AN ATTACK? :confused3 Show me.

Carly_Roach said:
Wrong. The story is a nice standby on a slow news days because it hits the easily tripped hot buttons of those who are so quickly and easily led by their emotions instead of their logic.
No, not wrong. True. Polanski drugged and raped her. Polanski ran from his sentencing. Polanski refuses to answer for his crime. If he had done his time, then went on with his life, this would not be in the news like it is now.





Carly_Roach said:
THIS is the crux of the matter, where many people's personal feelings are trumping the rights of the victim to live her life free of this kind of scandal. Polanski has not been proven to be a child molester and, so far, there have been no facts brought up to prove that has done it or has been doing it to any other child (the 16 y/o woman, who did a Playboy photo spread less than 10 years later, notwithstanding).

The whole thing smacks to me of a man who likes (or used to like) young women. While I cannot excuse the 13 y/o 30 years ago, I can say that a 16 y/o can easily give consent to enter into sexual relations. Many do every day. If she's now changing her mind, it's likely because even bad publicity is still free publicity.

Polanski is not a danger to society. The only thing served by spending hundreds of thousands of dollars that the State of California doesn't have to 'bring him to justice' is a DA's run for office and a public's need for blood. I guess we, as a people, haven't evolved from the whole guillotine, hanging or burning people at the stake in the public square as I'd hoped we'd have by now.
The victim does not get to decide if the DA goes after him or not. So, regardless of what the public's feelings are on this, they are not trumping the victims. The public has no say in the matter. We don't get to decide who the DA goes after either.

Sixteen is still a child. Sixteen is still underage. Sixteen is still illegal. And 16 with a 40 something year old man is just wrong in so many ways. :sad2:

I don't recall seeing a lot of hangings or burning of people at the stake lately. Nor any guillotines. :confused3 I also don't recall anyone yelling for Polanski's death or even for his blood. Just a bit of justice.
 

If anything the mother's alledged conduct gives Polanski yet another strike. He should have called the appropriate regulatory body. The crime is a 10, and adding in the mother's conduct does not effect it in the least. Its not like he killed someone, and we find out it was self defense, or stole and we find out he was being coerced by the mafia.

California recognized that 14 year-olds (and under) were indeed "little kids" at the time. We were briefly discussing on another page that the psych eval was required because the little girl was so young. It would not have been a requirement for a 16 year-old.

A psych evaluation can be ordered for any person of any age. The fact that she had a psych eval. done does not prove that she's legally a "little kid".

And common sense says she's not. No 13yo is a "little kid", unless there's something wrong with their pituitary gland.

And no, I am NOT saying it's okay to rape 13yos just because they're not "little kids". All I'm saying is what I've said from the start - this woman does not want him prosecuted and I respect her wishes. Also, I think it's a shame that her parents, and Jack Nicholson, and a whole host of other people are getting off scott-free, while they go after Polanski. I'm torn between wanting to see everyone changed and no one charged, and I do think it's a sin to victimize innocent people (like this 40-something woman). If they can bring him to trial without involving her in ANY way than I might be able to accept it.

Slightly off topic... Here's a fascinating table listing ages of consent around the world:

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

Interestingly, it's completely legal for a 16yo American to have consensual sex with a 12yo as long as it happens in Some Other Country (where presumably the age of consent is also 12 - like Mexico). But this same relationship, if it happened in mainland US, would result in prosecution and land the 16yo on the Sex Offenders registry to be labelled a "pedophile" for the rest of his life.

I had no idea!
 
As for "what if it was YOUR daughter"? MY 14 year old daughter wouldn't be spending the night in the company of any man more than twice her age, much less Roman Polanski. My daughter also wouldn't be palling around with Jack Nicholson, hanging out at his home, and going to Hollywood parties where people are drinking and doing drugs.
It sounds like you're a little unclear about the facts of the case. The girl's mother did not allow her to spend the night with Polanksi at some Hollywood party. Polanski offered to shoot some modeling photos of the girl that she could then use in her portfolio after show the mother photo spreads he had done for Vogue magazine. Jack Nicholson's house was the used as the setting. The attacks started in the hot tub after he plied the girl with alcohol and a Quaalude and then again in a bedroom after the victim was drugged. The only other person in the home at the time was believed to be either a maid or actress Angelica Houston (Nicholson's girlfriend at the time). The woman greeted them when they arrived and heard the victim's crying from a bedroom. She asked through the door if anything was wrong, and Polanski replied through a cracked door to assure her all was well. After being there for a couple of hours Polanski drove the victim back home and gave her the "Don't you dare tell anyone, they won't believe you..." speech.

While you can question the girl's mother for allowing her to be alone with Polanski, it's not too far fetched given that Polanski was a famous figure and knew the girl and his month as he had done photo shoots with the daughter before.
 
I think it's a HUGE stretch to say that the part of the post you bolded said it was "OK" to drug and rape that child. All it says was that the parents had to have been completely dumb (or blinded by money) in order to put their child in that situation. It was a "what did they expect?" type of statement, not a "Mr. Polanski was totally allowed to do what he did because of the stupidity of the parents" statement.

I honestly don't see how you can make that big of a jump? :confused3

Actually, I read it the same way. "Because the parents should have expected it and allowed the situation to happen, it was ok the child was drugged and raped." If that not what she meant, then she either should have omitted that statement or said it another way.

I don't care if the parents should have expected it. It was wrong of them and today they would probably have been facing child endangerment charges and they should have 30 years ago.

Age 13 is still 13. Unless a person can legally vote and sign up to go die for this country, then they are still a child.
I never said it was okay, I just think it's a crying shame the parents got off with out so much as a slap on the wrist, and no one's talking about prosecuting them. Also, I think after 30 years the victim here should have the final say in the matter.

In the Seventies too many people did not view young ladies of 13 as "children". If they had breasts and hair in the right places, they were fair game, especially if they were hanging around in movie stars' houses and getting drunk. The assorted young women who hung out at Jack Nicholson's house (and places like that) were generally there because they were starlets who were hoping to turn a bit of sex into a chance at a big break. Which, of course, in no way excuses Polanski's actions, even if he was high on drugs himself at the time.

Even today, in Alabama, 14yos can get legally married!

For that matter I'm a bit annoyed at the idea that any 13yo can be considered a "small child". They're not. The people who are sexually attracted to teenagers are not the same people who are sexually attracted to prepubescent children. Polanski is a rapist, but he's never raped a "small child".

How many people do you know who actually married at 14? In Alabama, you can also marry your cousin.


A psych evaluation can be ordered for any person of any age. The fact that she had a psych eval. done does not prove that she's legally a "little kid".

And common sense says she's not. No 13yo is a "little kid", unless there's something wrong with their pituitary gland.

And no, I am NOT saying it's okay to rape 13yos just because they're not "little kids". All I'm saying is what I've said from the start - this woman does not want him prosecuted and I respect her wishes. Also, I think it's a shame that her parents, and Jack Nicholson, and a whole host of other people are getting off scott-free, while they go after Polanski. I'm torn between wanting to see everyone changed and no one charged, and I do think it's a sin to victimize innocent people (like this 40-something woman). If they can bring him to trial without involving her in ANY way than I might be able to accept it.

Slightly off topic... Here's a fascinating table listing ages of consent around the world:

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

Interestingly, it's completely legal for a 16yo American to have consensual sex with a 12yo as long as it happens in Some Other Country (where presumably the age of consent is also 12 - like Mexico). But this same relationship, if it happened in mainland US, would result in prosecution and land the 16yo on the Sex Offenders registry to be labelled a "pedophile" for the rest of his life.

I had no idea!

It's my understanding that he's already been prosecuted. He only needs to be sentenced. She has nothing to do with it now. The only reason she is suffering now is because this man has gotten away with this crime and the media won't leave her alone about it.

What does it matter about age of consent anyway? Escpecially in other countries? She was underaged in this country. Or even in other states? The crime happened in this country and in California. She did not consent to having sex with this man.
He has successfully avoided sentencing and punishment for over 30 years.



Frankly, it's disgusting that so many are trying to sugar coat what this man did and are ok with letting him continue to live his life with no reprecussions for his actions.
 
It sounds like you're a little unclear about the facts of the case. The girl's mother did not allow her to spend the night with Polanksi at some Hollywood party. Polanski offered to shoot some modeling photos of the girl that she could then use in her portfolio. Jack Nicholson's house was the used as the setting. The attacks started in the hot tub and then again in a bedroom after the victim was drugged. The only other persons in the home at the time were a maid and, for a brief time, actress Angelica Houston (Nicholson's girlfriend at the time). Houston popped into the house for sometime and heard the victim's crying from a bedroom. She asked through the door if anything was wrong, and Polanski stepped outside the room to assure her all was well. After being there for a couple of hours Polanski drove the victim back home and gave her the "Don't you dare tell anyone, they won't believe you..." speech.

While you can question the girl's mother for allowing her to be alone with Polanski, it's not too far fetched given that Polanski was a famous figure and knew the family.

Evidently I AM unclear on the facts of the case. But here's the transcripts:

Edited for linking to iffy content: You can find at least half the transcript at the Smoking Gun - www.thesmokinggun.com

I can certainly understand Samantha's conflicting emotions around the rape. It was what we'd call today a "Date Rape", with the added complication that she was 13 at the time.

She didn't say anything to her mother about the first topless photo session several days before the rape. She also didn't object to the second topless photo shoot on the day of the rape, or to heading off with Polanski in the evening to Jack Nicholson's house. And her response to being offered Champagne was, "I don't care." He drank Champagne as well. She first claims to have drunk only one glass, but later says she doesn't know how much she drank.

That evening, after Polanski told her he wanted to take pictures of her in the Jacuzzi, Samantha called her mother and told her not to come and pick her up. And then Polanski got on the phone and told her mother they're going to be very late. Having got permission from the mother to hang out with her daughter all night, he took a Quaalude, and offered her one. Samantha said, "Okay."

She testifies that she knew what Quaaludes were, having found one and taken it when she was 10 or 11.

Samantha certainly WAS raped - according to her testimony she told him "No," quite clearly, but he ignored her and continued on. When the other woman in the house knocked on the bedroom door the first time, she was not crying. She got up, got dressed, went downstairs and said, "Hello" to the woman. Then she went outside and sat in the car, waiting to be taken home.

The woman almost certainly knew Samantha and Polanski had engaged in intercourse, considering that she came out of the bedroom with Polanski. And I find it hard to imagine she didn't also know that Samantha was very upset. But evidently this woman didn't care enough to take the child to the hospital.

Samantha cried a bit in the car, and unfortunately the transcript cuts off before we can find out what Polanski said to her.

So, the fact is that the man was a pig. And I feel terrible for that poor parentless child, whose mother HAD to have had at least some suspicion what was going on. Goodness, I can't imagine letting a grown man just come by the house and pick up my 14yo - repeatedly!

Even in the Seventies we'd never have fallen for the "I want to take Art Photos" line. It was a joke! We ALL knew what "Art Photos" were. If Roman Polanski had come by the house looking for me, my mother would have been right there chaperoning me, every minute.

I give Samantha complete props for going before a Grand Jury just two weeks after her rape. She was a tough kid - a real survivor! It's a crying shame no one was looking out for her, not her mother, that woman in the house at the time, or anyone else.

The transcripts are definitely worth reading, even though the second half is missing and the content is disturbing.

And, with the facts at hand, I STILL think Samantha should have the right to say, "No, I don't want to go through this again." She's not a child any more. She's a grown woman, and she wants to move on with her life.
 
Yes, the transcript is what I was drawing from... but I didn't post the link because it contains much highly DIS-inappropriate content. It'd edit that post and just tell people to go to that web site and search for it on their own.

Yes, the 13 year-old girl exercised some very poor judgment in both photo shoots with Polanski, but she also no doubt decided to "play along" up through the phone call with her mother due to the visions of Polanski landing her in Vogue and taking her budding modeling career to new heights.

You can argue that "the woman" in the house should also be culpable, but the DA opted not to pursue it and her actual identity is never named.

And again, as for dragging the victim through it again, it's already been pointed out that all that is needed is the sentencing on the original charge as Polanski had entered a guilty plea. It's doubtful that her additional testimony would be needed. Polanski's protracted legal battle to fight extradition would have done more to keep those memories in the spotlight than if he'd have excepted the consequences.

That evening, after Polanski told her he wanted to take pictures of her in the Jacuzzi, Samantha called her mother and told her not to come and pick her up. And then Polanski got on the phone and told her mother they're going to be very late. Having got permission from the mother to hang out with her daughter all night, he took a Quaalude, and offered her one. Samantha said, "Okay."
I think you're embellishing that a bit. The term used was she told her Mom "we'd be home kinda of late because it had already gotten dark out", not "very late" and there was no mention of permission to be out "all night". "Late" can also mean "beyond the agreed to time". It was also in March, so it isn't too late in the evening when it gets dark that time of year. The sunset in LA on March 10th of this year was at 5:57 PM.
 
A psych evaluation can be ordered for any person of any age. The fact that she had a psych eval. done does not prove that she's legally a "little kid".

Yes psych evaluations can certainly be ordered for other parties. But, as I said in my previous posted it was mandated for anyone that rapes a small child in California, such as Polanski. Specifically someone 14 years and younger. This was the age California decided. It doesn't much matter what the age of consent is in Alabama, or how you are sure 13 year-olds partied with adults. The people of the state of California drew the line at 14. They have their age of consent, and then they layer on even more safeguards for the very young, for example a 13 year-old, where the crime would be especially repugnant.
 
Yes psych evaluations can certainly be ordered for other parties. But, as I said in my previous posted it was mandated for anyone that rapes a small child in California, such as Polanski. Specifically someone 14 years and younger. This was the age California decided. It doesn't much matter what the age of consent is in Alabama, or how you are sure 13 year-olds partied with adults. The people of the state of California drew the line at 14. They have their age of consent, and then they layer on even more safeguards for the very young, for example a 13 year-old, where the crime would be especially repugnant.

Okay, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think a crime was committed, but I do not consider 13yos "small children" by any stretch of the imagination.

She was a minor and she was raped, THAT we can agree on.
 
A psych evaluation can be ordered for any person of any age. The fact that she had a psych eval. done does not prove that she's legally a "little kid".

And common sense says she's not. No 13yo is a "little kid", unless there's something wrong with their pituitary gland.

And no, I am NOT saying it's okay to rape 13yos just because they're not "little kids". All I'm saying is what I've said from the start - this woman does not want him prosecuted and I respect her wishes. Also, I think it's a shame that her parents, and Jack Nicholson, and a whole host of other people are getting off scott-free, while they go after Polanski. I'm torn between wanting to see everyone changed and no one charged, and I do think it's a sin to victimize innocent people (like this 40-something woman). If they can bring him to trial without involving her in ANY way than I might be able to accept it.

Slightly off topic... Here's a fascinating table listing ages of consent around the world:

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

Interestingly, it's completely legal for a 16yo American to have consensual sex with a 12yo as long as it happens in Some Other Country (where presumably the age of consent is also 12 - like Mexico). But this same relationship, if it happened in mainland US, would result in prosecution and land the 16yo on the Sex Offenders registry to be labelled a "pedophile" for the rest of his life.

I had no idea!

Okay, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think a crime was committed, but I do not consider 13yos "small children" by any stretch of the imagination.

She was a minor and she was raped, THAT we can agree on.

My 13 year old son is very much a small child- he's incredibly immature. Kids mature at different ages, and just because a child has started puberty does not mean they are automatically more mature and wise of the ways of the world.
 
My 13 year old son is very much a small child- he's incredibly immature. Kids mature at different ages, and just because a child has started puberty does not mean they are automatically more mature and wise of the ways of the world.

Yes. 13 yr olds may not be "little" kids, but they are KIDS.
 
Yes. 13 yr olds may not be "little" kids, but they are KIDS.

My only objection has been to calling them "little" kids or "small children" as has been done frequently in this thread. I agree absolutely that they are kids, teenagers and young people. They are simply not "small children" and it does them a disservice to put them in the same category as six year olds.

I've taught sex education to fifth graders. I teach them about respect and protecting themselves, and making smart choices. These boys and girls are NOT "small children" - not even the most immature and underdeveloped of them. They are boys and girls either well into puberty or right on the cusp of it. Yes, there's a wide range of development - one twelve year old girl might be getting her period regularly, and be flirting dangerously with adult males. Another 12yo girl may still not have developed breasts and any mention of "sex" makes her giggle and blush and hide her face. One 12yo boy might be sprouting chin hair, and be surreptitiously changing his sheets every morning. Another still thinks sex is "gross".

But the one thing that ALL of these kids have in common is that they are on the thin edge of adulthood. Their bodies are going to drag them there, whether their minds and emotions can keep up or not. We cannot treat them as "small children". They are not helpless. We have to give them the respect and information they need to make the mature choices that they face, every day.

I do admire young Samantha. She made some very dangerous mistakes, but they weren't her fault. She was never given the information she needed to know how to protect herself. And yet, when all was said and done she was still able to stand up and speak honestly and clearly about what was done to her. The kid had real guts!
 
This thread is enlightening. My child was a victim of a sexual assault last summer. Although the defendant pled guilty to one count (of 8) in April, we are still awaiting the sentencing hearing. It is heartbreaking to think some people on this thread think I should be held accountable (as the parent) or that if the defendant leaves the country that our bankrupt state should just let it go.
 
This thread is enlightening. My child was a victim of a sexual assault last summer. Although the defendant pled guilty to one count (of 8) in April, we are still awaiting the sentencing hearing. It is heartbreaking to think some people on this thread think I should be held accountable (as the parent) or that if the defendant leaves the country that our bankrupt state should just let it go.

I think you missed a few key elements of the two situations you mentioned. If a parent puts a child in a situation to be abused they should share culpability. For example, when someone with a child dates a known sex offender and leaves them alone with them they should share some of the blame. The person who abuses them is still the one who is at fault, but a parent should know better then to put them into that situation. Not all circumstances of abuse would fall into this category of course. I imagine most wouldn't actually.

As for letting a sex offender go that has left the country, that is also not what happened here nor is it what anyone is suggesting. The state brought an extradition case to the country in which RP resides and presented it to the courts. The courts ruled against the state of CA. There is a big difference between not trying and accepting defeat.
 
As for letting a sex offender go that has left the country, that is also not what happened here nor is it what anyone is suggesting. The state brought an extradition case to the country in which RP resides and presented it to the courts. The courts ruled against the state of CA. There is a big difference between not trying and accepting defeat.

But there are a lot of people who think that they should not even try to extradite him. That due to the fact that the victim wants it dropped or due to the fact that the state is bankrupt, that they need to just walk away from it and not try to extradite them.
 
But there are a lot of people who think that they should not even try to extradite him. That due to the fact that the victim wants it dropped or due to the fact that the state is bankrupt, that they need to just walk away from it and not try to extradite them.

I only argued against pursuing extradition because of the specific circumstances of this case, not because I think all rapists should get away scott free if they manage to successfully flee the US.

Samantha sued Polanski in 1988. She won. In 1993, Polanski settled with her for 604,416 dollars American. Samantha's lawyers indicate that the settlement has been completed.

In 1997, Samantha publicly forgave Polanski, and filed a formal request with the LAPD to drop charges. In 2003 she wrote an op ed piece for the LA times requesting Polanski be allowed to return to the US to accept his Academy Award. Here's her article: http://halmasonberg.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/samantha-geimers-2003-op-ed-on-roman-polanski/

On July 12, 2010, Switzerland rejected the US request for extradition, saying that they failed to produce certain key bits of evidence. Part of the problem is that the original sentencing judge has died and apparently some testimony has been lost. As a result, Polanski has been freed unconditionally.

So... the question is, how much money is the state of California willing to pour into the pursuit of this man? And what will the cost be? Is it worth cutting funds and resources from other areas of law enforcement (potentially letting other rapists slip through the cracks) in order to bring Polanski to justice?

Besides, I'm not sure what legal recourse California even has now. It's not like they can send the Black Ops out to kidnap him in the middle of the night.
 
I think you missed a few key elements of the two situations you mentioned. If a parent puts a child in a situation to be abused they should share culpability. For example, when someone with a child dates a known sex offender and leaves them alone with them they should share some of the blame. The person who abuses them is still the one who is at fault, but a parent should know better then to put them into that situation. Not all circumstances of abuse would fall into this category of course. I imagine most wouldn't actually.

As for letting a sex offender go that has left the country, that is also not what happened here nor is it what anyone is suggesting. The state brought an extradition case to the country in which RP resides and presented it to the courts. The courts ruled against the state of CA. There is a big difference between not trying and accepting defeat.


Really? Her child was sexually assaulted and you feel the need to lecture? Get off your soapbox Cliff Claven.

Troubledmom, I am sorry your child and your family had that happen to them.
 


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