This just really annoys me!

[si-am]

I have a strange feeling that if the OP had posted "OMG I'm so tired of the fashion industry making us think that real women are all 6'0" and a size 4" then this thread would have turned out a lot differently. Why is that?

 

[diznygirl]

I have a strange feeling that if the OP had posted "OMG I'm so tired of the fashion industry making us think that real women are all 6'0" and a size 4" then this thread would have turned out a lot differently. Why is that?

Mmm, nope.

Then the article would confirm that the size 4 OP is real, and she wouldn't be so upset.

I agree that either way, it's wrong to generalize that "Real" is one thing or the other. Like another posted already pointed out, Real Women come in all shapes and sizes.

 

[palavra]

LIke it or not, the world cares. I can't even count how many times I have seen reports on how attractive people are preferred in jobs over others. Do I agree with it, NOPE<, but hey that is how the world works.

My kid is very self confident, she is very average. Good luck with moving out of country, I would never want to live any where else.

Who is "the world?" And I can tell you clearly, that you are wrong. I've lived on there other continents, and body size/attractiveness has little to do with jobs and wages in many other areas. Those non-important things like education and job skills just happen to come into play in some countries.

FWIW, how do you know if you would never want to live anywhere else if you've never lived anywhere else?

 

[palavra]

My DD is 5'1" she weights about 111. She has a lot more curves and meat than models. She wears a size zero or 1. when I was a junior in HS, I was 5'3" I weighted 105. I was a runner. I wore a size 5.

so everyone that has a chip on their shoulder about these sizes, needs to get over it. They aren't real, they are fabricated.

This is so ironic. Isn't this the very thing the OP is complaining about?

 

[disneyofcourse]

I for one just wish they went back to non-vanity sizing and stop the craziness. So then I could go into a store and pickup my size and leave knowing its the right size. Not wondering why one size X feels twice as big as the other stores size x. Personally, I don't care if models wore only model size 0 or if they are modeling size 20. Everyone just needs to stop obsessing on what makes a real women. A real woman has nothing to do with clothing size or height. So many people seem to have issues viewing someone as just a person and instead viewing a person just by the space they take up. People say "She's skinny, so she must be anorexic" She's fat, so she must eat a lot" It's so stupid because the offender usually doesn't know the person well and yet you hear it so much being thrown around.

 

[palavra]

The "beautiful people"are always treated better regardless of gender. It is what it is.

Wow, what a load of crap! People are individuals. What constitutes beauty is also in the eye of the beholder. And define "treated better."

Whew, sometimes I'm really glad I'm getting older and have lost a lot of the ridiculous vanity that I had as a younger person.

Try using this line in Asia.

 

[palavra]

I for one just wish they went back to non-vanity sizing and stop the craziness. So then I could go into a store and pickup my size and leave knowing its the right size. Not wondering why one size X feels twice as big as the other stores size x. Personally, I don't care if models wore only model size 0 or if they are modeling size 20. Everyone just needs to stop obsessing on what makes a real women. A real woman has nothing to do with clothing size or height. So many people seem to have issues viewing someone as just a person and instead viewing a person just by the space they take up.

So many of us have been trying to say that, but somehow it keeps coming back to clothing sizes and health

 

[The Pink Cupcake]

So many of us have been trying to say that, but somehow it keeps coming back to clothing sizes and health

Exactly! And now we have people claiming to be in the medical profession saying there is absolutely NO way a size 16 could be healthy Huh? How could someone claim to be a nurse and make an uneducated statement like that?

 

[Mickeyistheman]

I have read everything single post and well all I have to say is that, aren't there bigger issues going on in the world right now?

Who cares what you look like? Who cares how much you weigh?

Why does it matter? How does that affect me if you are underweight, overweight, goal weight?


Really? Are you breathing right now? Are you alive? Do you have to worry that your loved ones are dead?

This really went way off kilter here, that I don't even want to comment, however, I will say that Carly Roach's post literally made me laugh out loud!!

I will also just say that Bullying is not nice.

 

[NikitaZee]

you look great!

Thanks

 

[mhsjax]

Wow, what a load of crap! People are individuals. What constitutes beauty is also in the eye of the beholder. And define "treated better."

Whew, sometimes I'm really glad I'm getting older and have lost a lot of the ridiculous vanity that I had as a younger person.

Try using this line in Asia.

We aren't in Asia.

 

[mhsjax]

This is so ironic. Isn't this the very thing the OP is complaining about?

No it isn't. She states that we are giving way to much freedom to be over weight and unhealthy.
ANd that it is ok to be over weight because you are a "real" woman. If you are thin and in shape, you aren't real.

This isn't the example I gave. This is too inform some of you that are ranting and raving about people wearing size 0-2, that it isn't as small as you would think because of the size.

Maybe that is the root f the problem people don't seem tot understand what the OP is saying, but then again. I see that a lot here.

 

[luvsJack]

YOu can't put everyone in the not being happy with themselves, just as so many of you are saying that you can't say that all overweight people are unhealthy.

I have lost weight 3 times. All except one was due to child, birth All the healthy way, I ate grilled chicken and fish, whole grains, cut out sugar. Lots of veggies, some fruit. Pretty healthy if you ask me. i also started working out, how isn't this healthy. I also kept the weight off for about 8 years before I got pregnant the first time. I wasn't happy with my 60 pound weight gain with each of the kids. But I lost the weight after each After I lost the weight I was very happy with myself, it boosted by energy, my self esteem, everything about me. YOu can't say that if you aren't happy with yourself over weight then you won't be happy after you lose the weight that is absurd. Just another excuse not to lose weight as far as I am concerned.

There is a difference in being happy with the person you are and thinking you cannot be improved upon. I happen to love WHO I am, and my weight is not WHO I am, its just a part of me. I try to eat right 80% of the time, and I exercise most days. But I don't beat myself up if I am not perfect and I REFUSE to beat myself up anymore because of a number on a scale.

And yes I can say that, and no its not absurd. Have you never heard of women that lose weight and then sabotage themselves by intentially gaining it back? They were not happier like they thought they would be. They are just unhappy and skinny. It has nothing to do with an excuse not to lose weight.

Exactly. I have friends, they don't look down at me, I have friends that are bigger than me, I love them dearly. I don't see them that way, but I do see myself, and fat isn't pretty. Again, I don't care how you dress it up, or what designer clothes you put on. Yes you probably look very nice and well put together, but still fat isn't pretty. Sorry, it is the truth, and I stare at plenty of it every day, but also everyday, there is a little less and less and i am feeling better and better about it, and for that I won't apologize.

Good for you. But should others of us apologize because we are happy with the person we are BEFORE we lose weight? Should we be considered less of a person. Fat isn't pretty, no one said it is. But I have seen many a pretty lady who is overweight. Seen Queen Latifa lately. She is beautiful AND overweight.

Why is this a YIKES? Did I offend you somehow, cause I don't see how I could have.

I am also teaching my DD how to live in the real world, I tell her that over weight will hold her back more than someone that isn't. Sorry, but that is the way of the world.

She is a wonderful 5'1" and 111 pounds and is solid muscle. She has a knock out figure and this is nothing to be ashamed of. She eats very healthy, 3 meals a day plus a snack. So don't worry about my DD, she is just fine.

How sad that your dd will always feel that her weight is so important to her success. My daughter is just fine too. Healthy, active, beautiful. But she doesn't focus on weight or size, she just focuses on being a happy, healthy 12 year old.


BTW, saying that a size 16 is a "real" woman, isn't giving anyone permission to be anything. I really think that most people have more common sense than that.

 

[The Pink Cupcake]

I am also teaching my DD how to live in the real world, I tell her that over weight will hold her back more than someone that isn't.

Horrible.

but I do see myself, and fat isn't pretty. Again, I don't care how you dress it up, or what designer clothes you put on. Yes you probably look very nice and well put together, but still fat isn't pretty. Sorry, it is the truth

Not truth. Opinion. I know very heavy people that are pretty. You have low self esteem and you are forcing it onto your daughter by telling her "over weight will hold her back".

 

[NikitaZee]

Horrible.

Horrible that it's true? I agree.

 

[diznygirl]

I've been trying to look for the article that the OP was talking about. I found this one:

Shopping for My Mom: How Fashion Fails Real Women
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charla-krupp/plus-size-fashion-shopping_b_835362.html

It's interesting that the headline is the ONLY place where the word "real" is mentioned. Headlines are usually written to grab the reader. They tend to be sensationalistic rather than realistic.

But it's one random word.

I agree with the article - it's hard to find 16s anywhere, most places usually stop at 14.

I don't think anywhere in the article the author even hinted that we need to be more accepting of larger women, only that there needed to be more of an effort to clothe them.

I know the counter argument to that is that if there are less clothes for overweight unhealthy women that they might be forced to put down the donuts and lose all that non-pretty weight. So there is that, I suppose.

 

[The Pink Cupcake]

Horrible that it's true? I agree.

Horrible that a good and smart mind and a sound education isn't being focused upon in that household.


I know size 16 women with Ivy League degrees that are so very successful and have beautiful homes and sexy husbands


If you are smart and motivated, you will go far....no matter how much you weigh.

Teach your children that!

 

[NikitaZee]

Horrible that a good and smart mind and a sound education isn't being focused upon in that household.


I know size 16 women with Ivy League degrees that are so very successful and have beautiful homes and sexy husbands


If you are smart and motivated, you will go far....no matter how much you weigh.Teach your children that!

That is simply not true. Do you really believe that? It would be a wonderful world if it were true, but it's not.

 

[jenny13]

Exactly! And now we have people claiming to be in the medical profession saying there is absolutely NO way a size 16 could be healthy Huh? How could someone claim to be a nurse and make an uneducated statement like that?

It is most certainly not an uneducated statement. It's a fact that the more weight someone carries on their body the more stress they put on it. Why don't you take some time to look up the facts before making a statement that you obviously aren't educated about. I see problems everyday in my profession and I can say that weight is a contributing factor to heart disease. Every reputable health site that you look up will confirm these facts.

If your going to try to dispute something I say then make sure you get your facts straight first.

 

[jenny13]

That is simply not true. Do you really believe that? It would be a wonderful world if it were true, but it's not.

ITA, while it might not be right thats the norm in the United States. In most cases if 2 people apply to the same position the better looking one will receive the job. There have been numerous studies done that back this information. I don't agree with this, but sadly it is done often.