This is HORRIBLE!!

MrsNick said:
2) In emergencies, some people simply freeze and fail to act. No one really knows why, but it has been demonstrated in disasters such as plane crashes. Some people in a plane crash act immediately to get off of a plane that has crashed, where others will sit, even when they are clearly in danger. I read an article about this and one woman says that the reason she lived was because her husband grabbed her and told her to get out of there. The woman's friend froze, and subsequently died because she didn't get off the plane.

I can agree with that! Quite a while back, I was staying in a hotel at a beach with my DS (he was a toddler), a friend and her two kids, and another friend. One night after we'd all gone to bed, this LOUD and scary siren went off, seemingly right outside our window. There was a really scary thunderstorm happening, so I was terrified that something worse was happening. I leaped out of bed, threw my glasses on, grabbed DS, and ran out of the room. My friend with kids stumbled out of bed and left her kids there. My other friend just sat in her bed stunned.

Turned out, the siren went off by mistake, but geez, it was so weird how we all reacted so differently in an emergency!
 
ducklite said:
She could try, although I can't imagine a prosecutor persuing charges against an individual who steped in to help the victim of a physical assault. In some states there are various good samaritan laws that would protect the person who intervened.



First of all, in some areas it can take five minutes or more for police to arrive. Police can detain on most misdemeanors and all felonies based on witness statements, generally without a warrant. They do not need to see the crime occur. From that point evidence including witness and victim statements and physical evidence are gathered and an arrest is made.

Anne

My main point was that the OP & his mom did something, they did intervene, they did stop the abuse.

I admit my ignorance of most legal matters. When I posted about what a police officer would do I was thinking about when I witness someone endangering others with their driving (severe tailgating, harassing others on the road by the actions, etc) and when I call in to report it, I have been told that nothing can really be done unless an officer witnesses it. That's what I was thinking of...and of course, Good Samaritan laws would cover many liability issues when a bystander stops to render aid to an accident/crime victim.

As to the witness statements...these are the same people who stood by, watched and did nothing, letting this person continue to beat the child. I don't hold out a lot of faith that they would be willing to even give witness statements, they probably would not want to "get involved".

The physical evidence & a statement from whomever gets the police, whoever stops the beating...that would probably have to do.
And if this person is unbalanced enough to beat on a child in public, she probably would be unbalanced enough to attack anyone...with her fists or with a gun or with any type of weapon...who puts their hands on her and stops her. It is not so much the fear of being arrested as the fear of putting myself in harm's way.
If I witnessed this? I *think* I would try to first stop the beating without physically touching the offender - getting someone to call 911 while doing so - and I would try to somehow detain this person without physically harming her until authorities arrive, keeping the offender and the victim there until police get on the scene. If the offender leaves or starts to leave I would get any information I could about her & her vehicle. I would take pictures with a video phone or a camera if I had one with me, of the bystanders, of the offender and of the victim. I would try to ask everyone/anyone for their contact info.

Kitty Genovese was a long time ago, but people haven't really changed. It is so sad that some feel that they have to beat up on those who are smaller, who can't fight back...I'm sure I cannot even begin to imagine the horrors that must happen to that little girl when she's alone with this being.

agnes!
 
Hollister said:
Yes I am, im 14 :sunny:
That is awesome what you did for that little girl! Most 14 year olds wouldn't have the wits about them like you did! Good job! :thumbsup2
 
agnes! said:
And if this person is unbalanced enough to beat on a child in public, she probably would be unbalanced enough to attack anyone...with her fists or with a gun or with any type of weapon...who puts their hands on her and stops her. It is not so much the fear of being arrested as the fear of putting myself in harm's way.

Which is exactly why I responded as I did. While her attention was turned to the child I would come up behind her and crack her in the head with a tire iron (or something else along those lines--a borrowed cane, even the spike of a high heeled shoe.) It would imobilize her to the point that she would be unable to react to attack someone else with or without a weapon.

Anne
 

ducklite said:
Which is exactly why I responded as I did. While her attention was turned to the child I would come up behind her and crack her in the head with a tire iron (or something else along those lines--a borrowed cane, even the spike of a high heeled shoe.)


And if by some miscarriage of justice you were prosecuted for this and I was on your jury, I would never convict you. I mean, who is going to convict someone for whupping up on a child-beater?
People who hurt children deserve all the tire irons they get.
 


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