The VGF 2 pricing thread

[sethschroeder]

Riviera (and Aulani) increases to $207 on 2/3
https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/savings/

Ya I thought they had just increased to $207 not that they would threaten a price increase 3 months out.

 

[nuhusky123]

Dvc advertising on Instagram showing up today

best guess this is for gfv2

 

[pirate33]

I’m at WDW now and noticed yesterday images of the Grand Floridian on some of the electronic DVC billboards here.

 

[DKZB]

In past offerings, how soon before it goes on sale does the marketing start showing up?

 

[Paul Stupin]

I’m at WDW now and noticed yesterday images of the Grand Floridian on some of the electronic DVC billboards here.

Finally…I guess we’re getting close!

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

I was just in the parks and almost all of the DVC kiosks are staffed up. Obviously, they think they can sell something. The recent BW/Aulani fire sale was confusing to me, I've never had reverse sticker shock for Disney! DVC is confusing me with their pricing strategy, but I still say VGF will be high.

No new project has been announced. To me, that means VGF is in no hurry to sell through. If they sell through VGF, they'll have nothing new to show off, and they'll be stuck again with their old friends Aulani and RIV. They don't need an army of timeshare salesmen to sell undervalued product.

Assuming $190pp at launch, new DVC members would have to fork over $28,500 (150 point minimum) to get into the ball game. You definitely need an army of salespeople to accomplish 2M points sold. With the current environment and additional travel restrictions being implemented outside of the USA, that army will have their work cut out for them.

 

[TinkAgainU]

And a minimum 150 points pops that MF up too. My plans for leaving contracts to family as a legacy has to be tempered with how high of a monthly expense they will have to commit to for the length of the lease ... for families outside of Florida there are fees like airport parking and flights (in addition to the theme park fees and food). You want to leave your family good memories, not a financial burden

 

[Sandisw]

Assuming $190pp at launch, new DVC members would have to fork over $28,500 (150 point minimum) to get into the ball game. You definitely need an army of salespeople to accomplish 2M points sold. With the current environment and additional travel restrictions being implemented outside of the USA, that army will have their work cut out for them.

I have mentioned this several times that I think that was the reason for the increase in minimum to 150 vs. 125. It allows them to offer it at a lower price which makes it "seem" like a deal when they end up with more that way anyway!!

We are only looking at 80 to 100 points so I doubt we will get incentives. But, if they start at 125, I MAY be able to convince DH that we need to go that high!!!! LOL

 

[gisele2]

VGF will have the same expiration date than VGF1 right ? So I think they can not price it too high.

 

[Sandisw]

VGF will have the same expiration date than VGF1 right ? So I think they can not price it too high.

Yup.

 

[hcortesis]

I have mentioned this several times that I think that was the reason for the increase in minimum to 150 vs. 125. It allows them to offer it at a lower price which makes it "seem" like a deal when they end up with more that way anyway!

What are you suggesting they end up with more of? Are you saying that Disney ends up with more money by increasing the minimum point buy in but at a lower price per point?

 

[Sandisw]

What are you suggesting they end up with more of? Are you saying that Disney ends up with more money by increasing the minimum point buy in but at a lower price per point?

Correct. It was $255/point. With a 125 minimum it would gain them $31875

With a minimum of 150, they get the same amount at $212…and anything beyond that gets them more.

IMO, this helps them start sales much closer to RIV without hurting the bottom line on their end.

 

[hcortesis]

Correct. It was $255/point. With a 125 minimum it would gain them $31875

With a minimum of 150, they get the same amount at $212…and anything beyond that gets them more.

IMO, this helps them start sales much closer to RIV without hurting the bottom line on their end.

Ok, gotcha. I see what you are getting at. Just not sure that it doesn't "hurt the bottom line on their end" though.

By the way, I know it's point heavy but I'm looking forward to booking a Theme Park View for next New Years Eve.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

VGF will have the same expiration date than VGF1 right ? So I think they can not price it too high.

All the 2042 resorts after OKW sold for less than 50 years and they even still sell some of those today with 20 years left. I believe BCV began sales with 40 years to go.
I do not think that it will be a factor in the pricing.

 

[Ssplashhmtn]

And a minimum 150 points pops that MF up too. My plans for leaving contracts to family as a legacy has to be tempered with how high of a monthly expense they will have to commit to for the length of the lease ... for families outside of Florida there are fees like airport parking and flights (in addition to the theme park fees and food). You want to leave your family good memories, not a financial burden

Nothing to worry about. I don’t think Disney would force your heirs to take on a financial burden. They would be happy to accept the contract back and sell those points to someone else.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

We are only looking at 80 to 100 points so I doubt we will get incentives. But, if they start at 125, I MAY be able to convince DH that we need to go that high!!!! LOL

So is the current thinking that existing DVC members will be able to buy less than 150?

 

[JETSDAD]

So is the current thinking that existing DVC members will be able to buy less than 150?

Probably. So far they haven't required existing members to buy the new member minimums.

 

[Lorana]

So is the current thinking that existing DVC members will be able to buy less than 150?

If past history holds true, yes. Existing members will likely have a 50-point add-on minimum (given that RIV and CCV required 50 points, not 25, while in active sales).

 

[CarolynFH]

Nothing to worry about. I don’t think Disney would force your heirs to take on a financial burden. They would be happy to accept the contract back and sell those points to someone else.

No one can force heirs to accept any unwanted bequest, including a timeshare contract. Could be a reason not to add kids as owners unless (like Sandi’s kids) they truly want to be owners and accept responsibilities for MFs.

 

[TinkAgainU]

No one can force heirs to accept any unwanted bequest, including a timeshare contract. Could be a reason not to add kids as owners unless (like Sandi’s kids) they truly want to be owners and accept responsibilities for MFs.

What I was trying to share, more as a point to consider, is that, for younger families who are frequently struggling to make mortgage payments on first homes, etc., leaving a legacy with a high MF (ie a contract for 200 points vs 100 points) means they may feel they need to sell it off to lower monthly/annual expenses - defeating entirely the point of buying it as a legacy. EVERY family is different, I was just sharing how more is not "always" better in a Legacy situation. So over-or-under 150 points can push someone to direct or resale prices also.